Save more money or go out and buy gear?

[tigermuzik]

If you need protools I would say the Mbox2 Pro. And If not an Apogee Mini Me. And Rent out a couple diff mics and see what you like on your voice.

[Versatile255]

no go digi 002 for protools. if you want to get a sm7 get a universal audio solo 610.

[mix-it-well]

No Protools for me.
Got Cubase.

The 610 solo is 800 € in Germany and the SM7b 600€.
That would leave about 300 € for a converter ,sounds good.
Any other advises?

@Versatile255: Is there any chance to hear some sound samples of this combo?
That would be great.

[Versatile255]

i mean yoou might not be able to get a good converter right away but youll have good sounding vocals with that combination.

[mix-it-well]

Originally Posted by Versatile255

i mean yoou might not be able to get a good converter right away but youll have good sounding vocals with that combination.

Do you got any sound samples?
I'm curious how this combo sounds.

[psycho_monkey]

Originally Posted by mix-it-well

Do you got any sound samples?
I'm curious how this combo sounds.

Please correct me if I'm wrong - I don't mean to bash anyone, and the mic/pre recommended are good pieces...but I suspect Versatile may just be repeating what he's heard others say, and doesn't actually own the pieces in question (at least, the UA pre) unless he's been doing some investing recently!

Just going on the other posts he's made asking for help choosing an MPC etc....again, no offence intended, if I'm wrong versatile please correct me.

If I'm right, I'd only recommend gear I'd had personal experience with - if you've not had any experience with the combo in question, I wouldn't state something as your own opinion.

I know it's irrelevant here, but also when someone says they only need 2in/2out, recommending a 002 over the MBox2 Pro is obviously bad advice - why spend more?

[mix-it-well]

Thx so far.



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Is this the blueberry in the video?
I like the vocal sound...low-end is super smooth.
Anyway R.I.P Hawk.

Any other advises?

[Barznbeats1]

How about: sm7 -> api 512?

[mix-it-well]

500 Format?
I would need a Lunchbox.
That would eat up the whole buget and since I don't want to go outboard and really just need one mono-preamp ,a lunchbox seems too much.
But if I had more money ,sure.

[Versatile255]

Originally Posted by psycho_monkey

Please correct me if I'm wrong - I don't mean to bash anyone, and the mic/pre recommended are good pieces...but I suspect Versatile may just be repeating what he's heard others say, and doesn't actually own the pieces in question (at least, the UA pre) unless he's been doing some investing recently!

Just going on the other posts he's made asking for help choosing an MPC etc....again, no offence intended, if I'm wrong versatile please correct me.

If I'm right, I'd only recommend gear I'd had personal experience with - if you've not had any experience with the combo in question, I wouldn't state something as your own opinion.

I know it's irrelevant here, but also when someone says they only need 2in/2out, recommending a 002 over the MBox2 Pro is obviously bad advice - why spend more?

yeah i have been doing some investig lately and yes ive asked for mpc help but that has nothing to do with recording and yes i actually bought the mpc now along with other things like an 002. reason why i recoommended the 002 instead that way you won't have any latency problems and that way in the future when you may need one you wont have to do the upgrade. as far as the sm7 and the ua 610 i dont have it personally but a friend of mine bought that setup and it sounds great and there are threads ive seen here with ppl with that setup that have samples, which ive heard and sound great. So use the search function. Ive also been going to studios lately well alot of homestudios and have been hearing different type of setups. Im not taking this personal but when you say stuff like im repeating what ppl are sayin and then say im not bashing anyone you are bashing but its all cool man. Ive been doing my homework and so should other ppl hear. Big shot out to tony man this forum has helped alot.

[Versatile255]

you get a baby blue bootle heard that too sounds good good for the price or maybe even a at 4050.

[mix-it-well]

Ken ,Tony ,t.dizzle any other suggestions?
Would like to hear some alternatives.

I just heard a Brauner Phantom C at a friends studio ,it sounded pretty nice but not great. He used a Goldmike Preamp.
It's not that raw.
Maybe it would sound awesome with a high-end pre what do you think ?

Again my Buget is limited.
I can max. spend 1500-1800€.
Or should I wait?

[tigermuzik]

honestly bro i think the best way is to rent out a couple pres and mics youd be interested in n then mix n match to see what you sound good on.

[psycho_monkey]

Originally Posted by Versatile255

yeah i have been doing some investig lately and yes ive asked for mpc help but that has nothing to do with recording and yes i actually bought the mpc now along with other things like an 002. reason why i recoommended the 002 instead that way you won't have any latency problems and that way in the future when you may need one you wont have to do the upgrade. as far as the sm7 and the ua 610 i dont have it personally but a friend of mine bought that setup and it sounds great and there are threads ive seen here with ppl with that setup that have samples, which ive heard and sound great. So use the search function. Ive also been going to studios lately well alot of homestudios and have been hearing different type of setups. Im not taking this personal but when you say stuff like im repeating what ppl are sayin and then say im not bashing anyone you are bashing but its all cool man. Ive been doing my homework and so should other ppl hear.

That's cool then - it's just that the worst sort of advice is from people who state things as first hand knowledge, when they've had no experience of things. And lots of people do this.

I was pretty careful to say I could be wrong - but you've posted some posts asking some pretty basic questions that show you as a relative novice over the last few months. Then you post a statement telling someone what to buy. It was only a word of warning, and if you say you HAVE got experience of what you're recommending, then I'm happy to be corrected.

'Fraid you're still wrong on the Pro-Tools front though. MBox Pro is firewire, which means it's capable of the same latency as the 002. The original Mbox could only get down to 128 samples if I remember right...not sure what the Mbox 2 can do, but then of course there's always direct monitoring and the Mbox's mix control. And if someone isn't recording bands or large ensembles, a stereo input is likely to be the most they need. I do rock music most of the time, but I still only record a couple of things at once (I do drumkits etc elsewhere).

So like I said, I'm NOT bashing, and in this case I'm happy to stand corrected - as I said I would be.

FWIW - to the original poster, I don't think you're going to get a Brauner for your budget!

Pre's I've used and liked include API channel and the Great River ME-1V (is that the right model number?).

Fave vocal mic at the mo is probably Neumann M149, but the SE Gemini is a great sound for the price (£600 UK or thereabouts - maybe €1000?).

[wavez]

Originally Posted by mix-it-well

Hi everybody!
Ok ,I got about 1500 € (about 2020$)...I worked years (no bullshit ,YEARS) for this and I finally made some money with music (which was/is never my intention).

What I got now:
M-Audio Mobile Pre
Wharfedale Diamond Monitors (I like em)
+ Software

What I need is a new Interface ,a Mic and a Mono-Preamp for deep Rap-Vocals.
I really dig the Raw Sound of Gangstarr (Moment of truth) ,living legends and Kev Brown.
Thats the sound I'm after.

What would 1500-1800€ get me?
I tought about a Blue Blueberry or probably a SM7 what do you think?
Which Preamp ,which Interface (I dont need nothing more then 2 In- and Outputs ,the sound is important to me) ?

Here´s Kev Browns setup...KEV BROWN: My set up...

[mix-it-well]

Originally Posted by tigermuzik

honestly bro i think the best way is to rent out a couple pres and mics youd be interested in n then mix n match to see what you sound good on.

Yep.
I would do this If I had the possibility.
That`s not that easy in germany since there are no big "Gear-Rent-Stores" around.
I tested a TLM103 ,a SP C1 ,a Brauner Phantom C ,a Stitch Emma ,a sm57 , SPL Goldmike Preamp , VTB1 ,SPL Channel One and some other (Mid-Class)Preamps at a Friends Studio and I still got no clue what to get.

So I would like to hear some suggestions

[deuc647]

Maybe not worth mentioning, but i get pretty good results with my NT1-A and my sebatron prethumbsup,

[mix-it-well]

Ah good you mentioned it.
I heard a lot about sebatron Preamps ,are they really that good?
The price is pretty cool.

ken ,Tony ,Dizzle ?
Any suggestions?

[mix-it-well]

Nothing more?

[RUSCO]

Get a sebatron vmp2000e .That would suit your needs. A set of Mullard tubes on the side would be handy if you want to open it up a bit.

[deuc647]

Honestly, ive only heard these, a bunch of low end pres and an api pre, i chose the sebatrons because i liked the sound of them, not because they are better. I think a 1 channel runs like 800, and i saw one in the GS classifieds for 450, like 2 weeks ago.