Originally Posted by kingofswing
If you have used both like myself (4k owner), you will notice the differences in the top end between the 3000 and 4000.
The 4000 has AD-DA's of a later generation over the 3k, and that is where the obvious sound differences take place. 16bit 44.1kHz of the 3K vs the 16bit 44.1kHz of the 4000 is not the same thing, trust me.
As for Dre, what he actually uses and what we read are also different - take it with a pinch of salt. His sound is clean because it is processed using the best of the best. Mind you, his earlier stuff from the 90s is not as clean sounding as his more recent work imo.
I don't think sampling Vinyl at 24bit 96kHz proves the potential of the 4000s sound quality. It's like sampling a scratch sound at 24 bit 96 - who cares??? Infact the 4000 shines when it samples drums from CD's (or any other clean digital source), because it sounds almost identical to the source.
What I am hearing is the sampling quality, a sample is a sample the way its procesed and mixed will be the end result...
What the mpc brings that no other sampler series I can think of has duplicated is that slight triple or quad triple sound that primo, ATCQ, Pete Rock, Dre, Track masters and even some of the new catz have. Its the differance between say a classic singer singing a R&B song.
Yea they can do it and it may be the right notes with perfect pitch, but it wont be funky.
The seq in the Roger Linn MPC's have always and will aways make the differance between something that has a feel and something that is str8 16.
that 50-75% swing makes a record your own. it makes it have your on feel your own sound. thats why we all bought them back in the day and why they stand the test of time.
you can do anything and still have your own sound. Its a feel thing you get it or you dont. If you cant hear the differance in the feel then you should get a 4000 cause it doesnt mean anything to you.
If you truly understand Hip Hop and how the sound has changed, will change, and will continue to change, you will understand why the 3000 is the best for HIP HOP!
and maybe R&B. More people still go back to the 3000 all the time!!! even if its just for drums
they just finish in PT!
Ive said to much i'm out!!