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Old 12th June 2007   #1
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I'm trying to leave Reason behind. I'm going to move completly into PT, so I'm thinking about Guru and a Motif. How well is Guru integrated when run in PT? I watched the Guru demo videos and it looks really nice! I love that you can do all of your sample chopping/triming in Guru... it will even automatically separate the different hits and map them to the pads for you!

So who uses Guru in PT?
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just my ..

try it out its a free demo on the fxpansion site

i mean its easyer as battery 3 or better !

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So do you use it? How is it working for you? I already ordered it, should get to me sometime this next week, but I was just looking to hear some impressions from people who'd used it.
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its cool but man is it buggy on my intel mac. it crashes logic fairly frequently (and yes my version is paid for) and it doesn't seem to work smoothly all that often, but once they work the bugs out it should be cool.

just a word of warning...at least as a AU in logic, guru has some serious quantize issues when you record. even if i leave the quantize record box unchecked, it never records shift values from my midi modules...in other words it records straight note hits right on the step sequencer grid, which really sucks if you have a swing based pattern.
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just ....

guru is fine without intel now !

wait-test-without registrading cuz 50 dollar will charged from fxpansion by re register

if you hate the programm i have a friend how need it there are much cheaper solutions in the net used by much beatmakers now.

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p.s i allways go for a good not beat daw meaby digidesign is still beta but they have a longer trial -error with 3 differend systems as apple with ..... maschienes since the same time .

cuz this i wait allway half year before they launcht a new maschiene too shure that iam not a betatester for weack programming... core 8 ill comming........ in one year e

in the meantime my money is better on my bank the charge me just nothing for wait.
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I think Guru has been running on Intel Macs for awhile now. 8 core is also already here. Thanks for the reply though.
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i mean it runs, but it isn't always fun to use on my intel mac.
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What issues are you running into? I'm getting sketched out about my purchase now. Should be here soon, I guess I'll find out how bad it really is.
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guru is fine without intel now !

wait-test-without registrading cuz 50 dollar will charged from fxpansion by re register

if you hate the programm i have a friend how need it there are much cheaper solutions in the net used by much beatmakers now.

pab.


p.s i allways go for a good not beat daw meaby digidesign is still beta but they have a longer trial -error with 3 differend systems as apple with ..... maschienes since the same time .

cuz this i wait allway half year before they launcht a new maschiene too shure that iam not a betatester for weack programming... core 8 ill comming........ in one year e

in the meantime my money is better on my bank the charge me just nothing for wait.
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your experience may vary i just find a number of things annoying about it...actually to the point where i don't use it as much anymore so i've forgotten some of them. in general the interface can be buggy and slow responding in logic and sometimes causes crashes- i never have logic crash without guru open. looping will also be bizarre sometimes, if i set a cycle range in logic guru will often miss the first downbeat (1) when it cycles back to the beginning each time through, if that makes sense. recording is straight quantized with no shift values which is crazy to me, for a program that's supposed to be a "mpc replacement". the sad thing is this is on version 1.2.9 i believe which is WAY more stable than it was a few months ago when i bought it- it was unusable in a pro session back then even though they advertised it as being UB compliant. it's going to be a great program for mac once they work the problems out but its been a frustrating experience.
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I use it with PT and love it. No problems whatsoever. It's basically the software version of an MPC, yet more versatile. Check out the demo, I'm sure you're going to love it.
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i`d personally prefer FL studio over it - a way more functions
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I use Guru sometimes, nice for layering multiple patterns for crazy things.

But Fx really need to get moving and update the basic feature requests like bouncing to audio in standalone. Would also like to see groove quantize per pad rather than per engine.

Otherwise a good software drum machine.
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If you're having problems with Guru, make absolutely sure you're running the latest update (v1.1.280), we've taken care of a ton of issues with that update.
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BTW.. we'll be posting a new demo version (based on v1.1.280) tomorrow.
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How does guru work with protools LE, is it possible to run the 4 individual outs of the pads in protools le to be mixed seperately??

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guru is fine without intel now !

wait-test-without registrading cuz 50 dollar will charged from fxpansion by re register

if you hate the programm i have a friend how need it there are much cheaper solutions in the net used by much beatmakers now.

pab.


p.s i allways go for a good not beat daw meaby digidesign is still beta but they have a longer trial -error with 3 differend systems as apple with ..... maschienes since the same time .

cuz this i wait allway half year before they launcht a new maschiene too shure that iam not a betatester for weack programming... core 8 ill comming........ in one year e

in the meantime my money is better on my bank the charge me just nothing for wait.




Um... can we get a translator in here pronto! Anyone? Translator please!!!
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gizeh12 - absolutely

Here's a sneak preview of what's coming in v1.2
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-- Audio export (rendering) of Pads, Tracks, Groups, Engines and the whole Mix, with drag-and-drop from there to the usual destinations in Guru, or to your host. So now you can export rendered audio clips from Guru directly to e.g. Live or Acid. There's a switchable option to auto-crossfade the loop start, so that the Guru-created loops are ready-to-loop in your host.

-- Offset / pre delay in both absolute and musical time on each layer

-- Sample reverse in the pad editor, also available via the graphs

-- Full support for note-offs and note duration

-- Randomizer slider, allowing controlled randomization of almost every aspect of GURU

-- Completely overhauled slicing algorithm with sensitivity control and much improved slice results

-- Engine context menu allowing you to cut, copy, paste, clear whole engines

-- Context menu on the Layers with copy, paste etc.

-- New triggering modes on the layers - round robin, random

-- Song name & kit display

-- Value read out tool-tips and hints on almost all controls

-- The standalone version now allows audio and MIDI device selection, and supports WDM, MME and ASIO on Win32

-- The standalone version now supports MTC Sync

-- Hugely improved QWERTY keyboard support (in plugin as well as standalone), can drive much more functionality without ever touching the mouse

-- Pattern key buttons now send note ons and note offs and can be used to (re)trigger patterns in GATE, TRIG or SHOT modes

-- The metronome and measure divide lines now adapt intelligently to resolution and pattern length

-- Per-pattern resolution/multiplier controls (Triplets, 8th and 32nd-notes...!)

-- A fully & correctly working Locks system

-- "PlusFX" and "PlusMIX" toggles on browser panes allowing you to preserve the current pad tweaks, pattern graphs or aux/mix effects when loading new loops, kits or patterns

-- New "Chromatic Clone" and "Random Clone" options on Pattern context menu, allowing you to clone patterns up and down the keys.

-- New "Chromatic Clone" and "Random Clone" options on Pad context menu, allowing you to clone pads up and down the pad matrix

-- Drag and drop of MIDI files from Finder / Explorer to the pattenrs

-- Drag and drop of multiple audio files at once from Finder / Explorer to the pads

-- Drag and drop of Finder/Explorer folders to/from the browser

-- Options to pin the current pattern and page on the screen for editing

-- An option to save songs/kits as settings only (and not create copies of the wave data)

-- An option to not show pad names for pads

-- An option to mix Engines direct to sub-outs:- the main outputs of Engines 1-8 are sent directly (with their effects) to sub outputs 1-8.

-- Multiple selection in the Pads browser, either drag multiple sounds at once to the pads to load >1 pad, or drag them to the waveform view to create new layers.

-- Assorted new modifier keys and shortcuts, visual tweaks and fixes
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i cant hardly whait!!!!
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How bout a Receptorized version?
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Here's a sneak preview of what's coming in v1.2
The main concern for me-Guru is a quit tight little piece of software.
It feels much tighter then any popular apps ppl use today.IMHO..
Please keep it this way, do not loose this tightness with new features you trying to implement in there, cuz as we know cpu is the enemy.
Hope you understand me right.

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I notice, as more instruments and more engines I'm trying to use simultaneously,
less tight it play back to me.
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darkwater - 1.1 runs OK on Receptor as unsupported.. I'm going to ping Muse about that now.

abit - totally understand - tight integration, fast workflow, and on-the-button timing are always going to be top priorities for the future of Guru.
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abit - totally understand - tight integration, fast workflow, and on-the-button timing are always going to be top priorities for the future of Guru.
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