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Dr. Dre Confirms "Detox" Release In 2007 On L.A.'s Power 106 Radio



Well, it's been the subject of rumor, debate, and anticipation, but Dr. Dre broke his silence on the much talked about possible 2007 release of Detox, confirming this week with Power 106 radio that it definitely will see release in 2007.

"I'm trying to get everybody that I've ever worked with over the years to appear on the records," Dre told the station. "There are gonna be some new guys that I'm working with, Bishop Lamont and Slim the Mobster, those two guys I think are incredible, new artists out of the west coast that I'm trying to get out there. Trust me, this will be worth the wait, I'm trying to make this the one they remember me for. It's a lot of pressure, but I'm feeling good about it. I feel like I'm my worst critic and if I'm loving it, everyone else will. I'm tryna put 12, 13 songs on the album. I'm not totally sure about the month but it will be definitely be out this year," he added.

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Well, it's been the subject of rumor, debate, and anticipation, but Dr. Dre broke his silence on the much talked about possible 2007 release of Detox, confirming this week with Power 106 radio that it definitely will see release in 2007.

"I'm trying to get everybody that I've ever worked with over the years to appear on the records," Dre told the station. "There are gonna be some new guys that I'm working with, Bishop Lamont and Slim the Mobster, those two guys I think are incredible, new artists out of the west coast that I'm trying to get out there. Trust me, this will be worth the wait, I'm trying to make this the one they remember me for. It's a lot of pressure, but I'm feeling good about it. I feel like I'm my worst critic and if I'm loving it, everyone else will. I'm tryna put 12, 13 songs on the album. I'm not totally sure about the month but it will be definitely be out this year," he added.

Listen to the Power 106 Interview.

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I'm so sick of these guys still trying to rap, I will say he's a great producer and rapper but it's time for fresh faces/voices to take over. He needs to go find something else to do. No I wouldn't be buying it!

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you'll be one of the very few.
and like he says there's probably gonna be a lot of featurings anyway.
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I'm so sick of these guys still trying to rap, I will say he's a great producer and rapper but it's time for fresh faces/voices to take over. He needs to go find something else to do. No I wouldn't be buying it!

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I care... 2001 set a new benchmark in mixing and production quality in hiphop. It's still heralded as the best thing as sliced shit 'sound' wise, and with good reason. Dre's beats never sounded as good as they did on 2001, even if you consider the beats he's* come out with since then 'better'.

I don't care about his rapping or lyrics.

I am very interested to hear the album, as i am pretty sure the rest of the forum is.

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I'm so sick of these guys still trying to rap, I will say he's a great producer and rapper but it's time for fresh faces/voices to take over. He needs to go find something else to do. No I wouldn't be buying it!
"Tell us why you mad son"

Dre has been on radio before in past 3 years saying detox comin....

I'll buy. I may be in the minority but I like Dre as a rapper.

Hip hop is the only genre thats always ready to push it's icons out the door. dfegad
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You really think its actually gonna come out in '07? I'm thinkin 2012 at the earliest.
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From what I've read, "Imagine" off of Snoop's album was supposed to be on Detox, but he let Snoop have it.

If this is any indication of what to expect, it will def. be worth the wait...
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can't wait, but i'm not holdin' my breath, still a long time coming i'm sure
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You really think its actually gonna come out in '07? I'm thinkin 2012 at the earliest.
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i'll believe it when it's out. i don't see a 2007 release date being fesible unless a single comes out in the next month or two
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you'll be one of the very few.
and like he says there's probably gonna be a lot of featurings anyway.
Well music means more then entertainment to me, it's food for my brains, all I'm saying it's time for these guys to turn things over to the younger crowd.

I'm just sick of the same old people, like Kool J.

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Yeah, 'cause the younger crowd is doing such a good job producing fresh and original music these days. tutt
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Well, it's been the subject of rumor, debate, and anticipation, but Dr. Dre broke his silence on the much talked about possible 2007 release of Detox, confirming this week with Power 106 radio that it definitely will see release in 2007.

"I'm trying to get everybody that I've ever worked with over the years to appear on the records," Dre told the station. "There are gonna be some new guys that I'm working with, Bishop Lamont and Slim the Mobster, those two guys I think are incredible, new artists out of the west coast that I'm trying to get out there. Trust me, this will be worth the wait, I'm trying to make this the one they remember me for. It's a lot of pressure, but I'm feeling good about it. I feel like I'm my worst critic and if I'm loving it, everyone else will. I'm tryna put 12, 13 songs on the album. I'm not totally sure about the month but it will be definitely be out this year," he added.

Listen to the Power 106 Interview.

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FINALLY !! ABOUT TIME !!

But let's be honest...He HAS to....Everyone (including me) is arguing if he is really the producer we all think/ thought he is/was. I mean......Scott Storch, Mike Elizondo...that new cat....They did a LOT on the 2001 album. I don't compare Dre with fake producers like P Diddy (check the last edition of Scratch Magazine where this bag of gas is hanging near the faders while he doesn't even know how to operate them) but well.....producers like Timbaland can do it ALL on their own...To me Timbaland is really the boss in the game. And after that Just Blaze, JR Rotem etc etc.
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Timbaland can do it ALL on their own...To me Timbaland is really the boss in the game. And after that Just Blaze, JR Rotem etc etc.
Timbaland uses musicians, just blaze uses musicians and sample replay guys. Quincy Jones uses musicians and so did barry white.

Producer does not mean musician. Producer is hired to make the record.

And if u dont think Puffy knows how to make records after almost 20 years in the game on a major lable level then....<!-- / message --><!-- sig -->
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Timbaland uses musicians, just blaze uses musicians and sample replay guys. Quincy Jones uses musicians and so did barry white.

Producer does not mean musician. Producer is hired to make the record.

<!-- / message --><!-- sig --> And if u dont think Puffy knows how to make records after almost 20 years in the game on a major lable level then....
You gotta be kidding. Ofcourse a little now and then Timbo uses musicians, but all his Aaliyah work and current hits are written by him. And Dre doesn't always write the thing himself.Ask Mike Elizondo...

And come on....you're sticking up for P Diddy? I am not even going into that, P Diddy is together with Suge Knight the most well known EXECUTIVE producer, so that basically means he knows what sells, but don't know shit about the technique and how even a mixing console works. Last edition of Scratch he even tells that straight up if you read carefully, but on the cover he is hanging over a mixing board he can afford, but can not control. P Diddy is a fake, and so is Suge Knight.
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You gotta be kidding. Ofcourse a little now and then Timbo uses musicians, but all his Aaliyah work and current hits are written by him. And Dre doesn't always write the thing himself.Ask Mike Elizondo...

And come on....you're sticking up for P Diddy? I am not even going into that, P Diddy is together with Suge Knight the most well known EXECUTIVE producer, so that basically means he knows what sells, but don't know shit about the technique and how even a mixing console works. Last edition of Scratch he even tells that straight up if you read carefully, but on the cover he is hanging over a mixing board he can afford, but can not control. P Diddy is a fake, and so is Suge Knight.

U r uninformed friend. Timbo used to use scott storch as well. He uses musicians- keyboards, bass, etc. to create as well.

dont believe everything u read in magazines. u way off base about diddy.

There is a certain ignorance outside the game that says a producer has to play the instruments. Thats not what a producer is.

If it makes u feel better to think less of diddy then fine but u way off base. If it was so easy everyone would just hire musicians and make $500 million
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Well music means more then entertainment to me, it's food for my brains, all I'm saying it's time for these guys to turn things over to the younger crowd.

I'm just sick of the same old people, like Kool J.

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Did you just mention Dre and Kool J in the same thread? WOW. I can understand the LL thing, but DRE? He started this shit. I personally like "JR" Rotem's beats, but he admittedly said that Dre was his biggest influence and the reason he started producing and, honestly, I can say the same thing.

I remember being in middle school and hearing The Chronic and telling my friend "I wanna make beats with Dr Dre one day." Yeah, I was a naive kid, but when I first could afford a laptop and beat-making program I got one and now it's become a passion.

The Chronic and Doggystyle are two of the most classic albums of any genre of all time. When 2001 came out, I expected to be slightly dissappointed, and it was quite the opposite. It changed the face of Hip-hop again.

Dr Dre is THE MOST GENIUS PRODUCER OF ALL TIME and I will buy ANY ALBUM he ever releases. PERIOD.
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"Diddy" is a talentless hack. Yeah, I said it. Give me or half the people on GS the amount of money, gear, time and talent he is surrounded with and see what we could do. He is just the pretty face. If you think he is the brains behind that operation then.........

Yeah, I haven't done shit. I ain't got shit. And I got a day job. But Tell me ONE BEAT that Diddy made on his own. One song he engineered. One song he mixed. One time he set up a mic stand or vocal booth. One time he tweaked the Avalon. Id be willing to bet Never.

He can sure as hell find talent, surround himself in that talent and pay talent, but that's a far cry from actually having any.

Anyone ever see that show he had "Making the Band" or whatever. Notice everytime they were in the studio that there was about 15 people doing stuff, and then there was Diddy. Always chillin near the boards with his hand on it, but never doing anything. His boys did everything, he was there to give the "band" members the speil. Ridiculous.

The best thing he ever did was throw it to J-Lo.

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It's a shame so many people feel the need to show there lack of experience with there many comments. If you knew anything about the real music business you would know no one makes it to the top and stays there as long as Diddy without talent and usually some type of genius. There are many hit records played by the same studio musicians that sound and feel completly different, A producer is responsible for that. That person might play everything better than the musicians hired or they may play nothing and not read music. Sean Combs knows how to MAKE A HIT RECORD PERIOD !!! It is the performance you get from people, the changes or lack of changes you make along the way, a balance of Ego and self criticism, Leadership skills, knowing when to lean on your people and when to stroke egos, marketing, visual images, sonic impact on radio and T.V. If you think Sean Combs is not a producer because he can't play or program or pull up a mix from scratch then you don't understand the difference between a music maker and a producer. A lot of people make good music, much less people know how to take that and make a commercial hit from it. I have been in the real music business. Dre can play a few instruments, puffy has excellent mixing ears. The real problem is not if these people do it all by themselves or not, the problem is people who dwell on finding so many negative things to say. Until you've been in Dozen sessions with each of these hitmakers your simply talking out your A$$.


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Exactly. Only Dre and a couple others can actually get my money nowadays. Rap is completely trash now. We need the old Gs to stick around as long as possible because these new cats are actually degrading the true art of hiphop.

Hopefully I can contribute my two cents this summer or fall. We've got to get this thing back on the road.
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Man, ya'll "producers" need to wake up! In this biz the term producer as as varied as the term dealer. There's all types of pros on all different levels. I used to be mad judgemental about who did all of their own "beats" and instrumentation. Then I learned about a little thing called teamwork.

I'm a hack at keys but I specialize in guitar, bass, beat programming, engineering, and songwriting and I absolutely can not for the life of me sing. Does it make me any less talented to hire a brilliant keybaord player and coach him on the parts? Or does it make me less talented to outsource a mix? Nah, It just means I'm focusing on what I'm good at and allowing other people to take a song further than I could on my own.

I recently relocated and I had to start my production company from the ground up. Thankfully I'm staying busy with session guitar work but I recently got a call to program a beat for a major label producer who specializes in singing. I thought he wanted me to drop the beat but I wound up playing every instrument on the track. Apparently "programming" here means producing the music sans producer credits. But guess what... I got paid, AND I got 3 more songs to "program" AND major artists are singing over my beats.

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I'm not gonna hold my breath..............

Unless of course I'm smokin' on the CHRONIC. lol

I agree with a previous post...I would say that if we don't see a single or any promo for it by summertime I would forget about a 2007 release. Then again, stranger things have happend.

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It's a shame so many people feel the need to show there lack of experience with there many comments. If you knew anything about the real music business you would know no one makes it to the top and stays there as long as Diddy without talent and usually some type of genius. There are many hit records played by the same studio musicians that sound and feel completly different, A producer is responsible for that. That person might play everything better than the musicians hired or they may play nothing and not read music. Sean Combs knows how to MAKE A HIT RECORD PERIOD !!! It is the performance you get from people, the changes or lack of changes you make along the way, a balance of Ego and self criticism, Leadership skills, knowing when to lean on your people and when to stroke egos, marketing, visual images, sonic impact on radio and T.V. If you think Sean Combs is not a producer because he can't play or program or pull up a mix from scratch then you don't understand the difference between a music maker and a producer. A lot of people make good music, much less people know how to take that and make a commercial hit from it. I have been in the real music business. Dre can play a few instruments, puffy has excellent mixing ears. The real problem is not if these people do it all by themselves or not, the problem is people who dwell on finding so many negative things to say. Until you've been in Dozen sessions with each of these hitmakers your simply talking out your A$$.


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It's a shame so many people feel the need to show there lack of experience with there many comments. If you knew anything about the real music business you would know no one makes it to the top and stays there as long as Diddy without talent and usually some type of genius. There are many hit records played by the same studio musicians that sound and feel completly different, A producer is responsible for that. That person might play everything better than the musicians hired or they may play nothing and not read music. Sean Combs knows how to MAKE A HIT RECORD PERIOD !!! It is the performance you get from people, the changes or lack of changes you make along the way, a balance of Ego and self criticism, Leadership skills, knowing when to lean on your people and when to stroke egos, marketing, visual images, sonic impact on radio and T.V. If you think Sean Combs is not a producer because he can't play or program or pull up a mix from scratch then you don't understand the difference between a music maker and a producer. A lot of people make good music, much less people know how to take that and make a commercial hit from it. I have been in the real music business. Dre can play a few instruments, puffy has excellent mixing ears. The real problem is not if these people do it all by themselves or not, the problem is people who dwell on finding so many negative things to say. Until you've been in Dozen sessions with each of these hitmakers your simply talking out your A$$.


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Of course Diddy is still runnin, he got major cash during the late 90's and he turned it into a million, if not billion dollar business. he's a way better business man than a producer in my eyes. and thats why he's still around.
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FINALLY !! ABOUT TIME !!

But let's be honest...He HAS to....Everyone (including me) is arguing if he is really the producer we all think/ thought he is/was. I mean......Scott Storch, Mike Elizondo...that new cat....They did a LOT on the 2001 album. I don't compare Dre with fake producers like P Diddy (check the last edition of Scratch Magazine where this bag of gas is hanging near the faders while he doesn't even know how to operate them) but well.....producers like Timbaland can do it ALL on their own...To me Timbaland is really the boss in the game. And after that Just Blaze, JR Rotem etc etc.
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PRODUCTION VS EMCEES As I sign off on this T-dome with the point of how lopsided the relationship of song creation is in hip hop. Usually the producer gives the rapper a bare track with little changes other than a loop. The rapper performs on this loop and the producer goes from that point to embellish the track around the vocal. This process is 95% on how it's done from the 1980's. This is one of the fundamental problems with producers in hip hop. Few if any present complete musical songs that can influence a certain ad lib or inflection. Thus the rapper has to pretend and foresee the possibility of the track being at its best without actually being at its best. But producers always want the best vocal performance. This akin to a person making love to someone who's head is in a paper bag so they can pretend that person's somebody else.

In the 1960's Motown cut the full tracks in its entirety; verse, chorus and bridge with very skilled musicians playing with and competing against each other on each instrument. This telepathy often brought magic to a track that can't be explained other than feel. Thus the vocal was inspired to the highest ebb. STAX cut the vocals in the same room at the same time creating ad lib spontaneity on both the music and vocal. It's why emcees nowadays choose other records to rhyme off. It's beyond 'beats'. And it's something that today's producers need to realize. Everybody cannot be 'Prince', a cat who knows many instruments and how to play with and against them. Just my opinion that the music has suffered on both fronts because of individualism, but somehow producers think they're exempt from hip hop's demise. Bring back songwriting and production teams ...

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