this is why i'm hot

[filterayok]

hey i know this isnt the place for this, but none of the other places in gearslutz will be able to help me, so if you could just leave the thread here for a bit it'd be awesome..

anyway the mims song, "this is why i'm hot..." this song has been out for a MINUTE, like a loooong ass minute... so i load up itunes today and it the #1 SONG!!! not only that, but about a week ago, "this is why i'm hot" as a MIXTAPE track by some lesser -name rapper was at #3... its an okay track, but jeez, how the hell is it #1 out of NOWHERE after being around for quite a damn while...

anybody have any clue how this came about?? was there a TV appereance i missed?? did he win a grammy??

[halfguard]

that song gives me a terrible migrane....ahh ahhaa i actually feel it coming on right now......

[upscaps]

Originally Posted by filterayok

hey i know this isnt the place for this, but none of the other places in gearslutz will be able to help me, so if you could just leave the thread here for a bit it'd be awesome..

anyway the mims song, "this is why i'm hot..." this song has been out for a MINUTE, like a loooong ass minute... so i load up itunes today and it the #1 SONG!!! not only that, but about a week ago, "this is why i'm hot" as a MIXTAPE track by some lesser -name rapper was at #3... its an okay track, but jeez, how the hell is it #1 out of NOWHERE after being around for quite a damn while...

anybody have any clue how this came about?? was there a TV appereance i missed?? did he win a grammy??

Easy- its catchy, simple, and people like it. His video is on rap city & 106th & park for past few weeks and possibly MTV, his pub game is serious. Capitol rec is good at making sure artists are known and they are not cheap, his team owns digiwaxx among other industry entities, his squad is also well versed in the music industry having been in promotions at major labels for over a decade. Mims has been out for over 4 years tryin to make it pop. That song got him his capitol deal becuase of the amount of spins it generated. Other version is by Remo who did his own freestyle version of the song and his own video and publicity and gained mad notoriety from it.

not here to argue about tastes with elitest hip hoppers who think the only good hip hop is nas 1992 stuff, but that song has spread real quick once the button got pushed at his label. That was the biggest record in Miami super bowl, vegas nba all star and the magic convention. (was tired of hearing "we fly high" everywhere anyway).

[soundeq]

This is why your not!

Originally Posted by upscaps

Easy- its catchy, simple, and people like it. His video is on rap city & 106th & park for past few weeks and possibly MTV, his pub game is serious. Capitol rec is good at making sure artists are known and they are not cheap, his team owns digiwaxx among other industry entities, his squad is also well versed in the music industry having been in promotions at major labels for over a decade. Mims has been out for over 4 years tryin to make it pop. That song got him his capitol deal becuase of the amount of spins it generated. Other version is by Remo who did his own freestyle version of the song and his own video and publicity and gained mad notoriety from it.

not here to argue about tastes with elitest hip hoppers who think the only good hip hop is nas 1992 stuff, but that song has spread real quick once the button got pushed at his label. That was the biggest record in Miami super bowl, vegas nba all star and the magic convention. (was tired of hearing "we fly high" everywhere anyway).

[AUdioicon]

Originally Posted by filterayok

hey i know this isnt the place for this, but none of the other places in gearslutz will be able to help me, so if you could just leave the thread here for a bit it'd be awesome..

anyway the mims song, "this is why i'm hot..." this song has been out for a MINUTE, like a loooong ass minute... so i load up itunes today and it the #1 SONG!!! not only that, but about a week ago, "this is why i'm hot" as a MIXTAPE track by some lesser -name rapper was at #3... its an okay track, but jeez, how the hell is it #1 out of NOWHERE after being around for quite a damn while...

anybody have any clue how this came about?? was there a TV appereance i missed?? did he win a grammy??

You really wanna know? Too many meth lab around, people are just more attracted to garbage music then ever! So that's just the norm of todays music scene.

AI

[Reptil]

over here a number one spot is because of airplay
and airplay, yes you get that from being in the top 10
easy to get on #1 LOL

[filterayok]

my point is that its BEEN catchy its BEEN played for months now, why is it #just reaching #1 now... and the other dude that did it was jae millz..

i mean the song was okay, but for TWO versions of it, ONE that was a MIXTAPE version to reach the top 3 spots seems shady to me...

[jlotto]

my point is that its BEEN catchy its BEEN played for months now, why is it #just reaching #1 now

Mims didnt have a deal when they threw the song out themselves and recorded a $10k video themselves (same video thats playing now). They worked it themselves on street level, clubs, and mixshows around the country for close to a year before labels came calling.

Capitol signed him a few months ago and the rest is history. video, charts, etc.

Good to see that old fashion hardwork still pays off in this industry.

[themaestro]

i'm down to support anybody who is putting in work...but i am SOOOO ready for joc and nitty to team up and attack mims. i am surprised that atlanta radio has taken to the record so hard. if i was a personality out here i would launch a campaign to boycott that song!! how does a new york dude with a fake young joc flow rap over a fake nitty beat and get as much play as mims is getting? i aint feelin that!

[mintyfreshbeats]

im happy the east coast has a hit right now!

[filterayok]

Originally Posted by themaestro

i'm down to support anybody who is putting in work...but i am SOOOO ready for joc and nitty to team up and attack mims. i am surprised that atlanta radio has taken to the record so hard. if i was a personality out here i would launch a campaign to boycott that song!! how does a new york dude with a fake young joc flow rap over a fake nitty beat and get as much play as mims is getting? i aint feelin that!

well with all due respect, nitti beats sound like fake lil jon beats to me

Originally Posted by themaestro

i'm down to support anybody who is putting in work...but i am SOOOO ready for joc and nitty to team up and attack mims. i am surprised that atlanta radio has taken to the record so hard. if i was a personality out here i would launch a campaign to boycott that song!! how does a new york dude with a fake young joc flow rap over a fake nitty beat and get as much play as mims is getting? i aint feelin that!

If this is the case, then New Orleans radio shouldnt play ANYTHING from Atlanta.

Hell for that matter, Nelly should be paying DJ Jimi royalties for Tip Drill.


And everybody in New Orleans doing beats owes me their full legacy, I was the first to sample Trigga Man

[themaestro]

Originally Posted by filterayok

well with all due respect, nitti beats sound like fake lil jon beats to me

are you serious? i would expect this from an old person who doesn't know anything about rap music....the same kind of person who thinks all black people look alike! i am not a big nitti fan, but his tracks do not bare much resemblance to lil john's. don p or lil j sound waaaaaay more like john than nitti ever has.

[themaestro]

Originally Posted by no ssl yet

If this is the case, then New Orleans radio shouldnt play ANYTHING from Atlanta.

Hell for that matter, Nelly should be paying DJ Jimi royalties for Tip Drill.

c'mon bra, thats a little much. you know the A has nothin but love for the N.O., but new york cats been hatin on us forever. and as an east coast transplant to the south, i just want the east to do their own thing. i just want east coast cats to be able to blow up off of east coast music, mims has waaaaaay hotter music than this single, he shouldn't have to do what we do down here just to get play up there, feel me?

[filterayok]

Originally Posted by themaestro

are you serious? i would expect this from an old person who doesn't know anything about rap music....the same kind of person who thinks all black people look alike! i am not a big nitti fan, but his tracks do not bare much resemblance to lil john's. don p or lil j sound waaaaaay more like john than nitti ever has.

i feel ya---cuz nitti's beats uses 808bassline, kik, snap, and synth sound #1 playing a ********ly simple melody, and lil john uses 808bassline, kik, snap and synth sound #2 playing a ******** melody, both at snap tempo.... they're WORLDS apart!!

and you couldnt go one paragraph without a racial comment could ya...

and i'm sure you're not biased being that you actually know nitti....

[Hitz]

Originally Posted by themaestro

i just want the east to do their own thing. i just want east coast cats to be able to blow up off of east coast music, mims has waaaaaay hotter music than this single, he shouldn't have to do what we do down here just to get play up there, feel me?

YUP! I understand that completely. The artist I'm producing up in Detroit WILL BLOW UP OFF HIS OWN SOUND. As him and I agreed before we penned down a agreement.

Wish me luck. Years worth of it.

But yeah man it's at the point that *we* (producers,engineers,artists on the rise) can't look to Mims (WTF is a Mim? ) for that *proper* eastcoast record.

Those of us with artists AND goals in mind have to just hit the grindstone and pump our own style.

True 2 Self.

Originally Posted by themaestro

c'mon bra, thats a little much. you know the A has nothin but love for the N.O., but new york cats been hatin on us forever. and as an east coast transplant to the south, i just want the east to do their own thing. i just want east coast cats to be able to blow up off of east coast music, mims has waaaaaay hotter music than this single, he shouldn't have to do what we do down here just to get play up there, feel me?

I was just ****in withcha

To me, the East Coast messed up when the began to have an "East Coast sound"

When they got pigenholed into a "sound" is when it led to Snoop coming through and crushing the buildings.

Herbie Love (SaltnPeppa, Dana Dane, Sweet T)
Run DMC
LL
Early BDP
Erick B and Rakim
Juice Crew stuff.
PE
Slick Rick's first album
Biggie
Jigga

None of this had an "East Coast" sound. It was just rap music. (DAMN GOOD Rap Music) YOu can't say that it all had an "East Coast" sound because none of it necessarily sounded alike. It was all rappers that could rap and that's about the only thing they all had in common.

Same thing with NWA/Snoop/Early Cube stuff. You couldnt really label it as a "west coast" sound. IT was just good music.

I actually hate the thought of a "southern sound" where everybody does snap sounding stuff or puts alot of flams in 808 drums as if they just learned to use the note repeat on an MPC. (Can you say Mantronix)

I prefer the old days ala Peter Piper, It's Yours, I'll take yo man, Rock the bells.

Just give me some club bangers, it doesnt have to be an EXTREMELY simple hook and dumb flow for it to be a club banger.

Maestro, there's a saying in the barber shop I've been going to in the Bronx "IT's too late to hate".

Cats in NY listen to EVERYTHING now.
But yeah they did hate in the beginning. But honestly the South has Always had somebody moving units (mainly indi) since the 80's

LUKE
LIL Jay (Face, Ghetto Boys, Odd Squad)
The DOC
No Limit
Cash Money
OUTKAST and all of the cats from the A

It's really been nonstop since the 80's for the South.

[mintyfreshbeats]

MIMS = music is my savior

[upscaps]

Originally Posted by themaestro

c'mon bra, thats a little much. you know the A has nothin but love for the N.O., but new york cats been hatin on us forever. and as an east coast transplant to the south, i just want the east to do their own thing. i just want east coast cats to be able to blow up off of east coast music, mims has waaaaaay hotter music than this single, he shouldn't have to do what we do down here just to get play up there, feel me?

hey it is what it is. he been tryin to get in for like 4 years and that song got him his deal. BUT.... Everything else he been doin including rap city he's comin off on that lower case "jay-z" style thats been so dead for so long (except by jay-z) and that's what was keeping him from being signed in the first place. That means album disappointment on the way.

[darkchild]

I heard that he originally recorded to a different beat...then "BlackOut Movement" did a remix, and people liked that more, so that's what they went with...

Has anyone heard the Original version?

[themaestro]

Originally Posted by filterayok

i feel ya---cuz nitti's beats uses 808bassline, kik, snap, and synth sound #1 playing a ********ly simple melody, and lil john uses 808bassline, kik, snap and synth sound #2 playing a ******** melody, both at snap tempo.... they're WORLDS apart!!

and you couldnt go one paragraph without a racial comment could ya...

and i'm sure you're not biased being that you actually know nitti....

i hear you dude, but i still think you are oversimplifying their formulas. i'm pretty sure lil john doesn't hear a nitti beat and feel like dude is taking his style. and for your information i have no bias towards nitti, i am in competition with him every time i play tracks for a southern artist, i am not a nitti cheerleader or bandwagoner, but i do think that experienced musicians should be able to differentiate between the sounds of their peers and not make ignorant statements about them. saying that brian kidd sounds like polow is a fair statement. saying that at times rodney jerkins sounds a lot like brian michael cox is a fair statement. saying that swizz sounded like dame grease is a fair statement, but saying that nitti and john sound alike is something a girl or a dumb fan would say.

and sorry about the racial comment homey, i didn't see the harm in it, even today, it is a very common phenomena that many white people are unable to differentiate between all but the most famous african americans.

btw, i listened to the music on your myspace pages and i was quite impressed, keep doin your thing

[themaestro]

Originally Posted by upscaps

hey it is what it is. he been tryin to get in for like 4 years and that song got him his deal. BUT.... Everything else he been doin including rap city he's comin off on that lower case "jay-z" style thats been so dead for so long (except by jay-z) and that's what was keeping him from being signed in the first place. That means album disappointment on the way.

lol, i can only imagine

Originally Posted by upscaps

hey it is what it is. he been tryin to get in for like 4 years and that song got him his deal. BUT.... Everything else he been doin including rap city he's comin off on that lower case "jay-z" style thats been so dead for so long (except by jay-z) and that's what was keeping him from being signed in the first place. That means album disappointment on the way.

Your comment actually makes me WANT to hear the album to see what you consider the "jay z" style that's been dead with the exclusion of when it's done by Jay. For all I know this may mean he's actually rapping and nothing more.

I once had a radio DJ listen to a few songs I had done and say "I don't know man' you are actually rapping. The world aint really feeling lyrics or cats who can rap right now."

Not saying that you are saying the same thing. I may hear his album and Totally get what you meant

I think what Maestro is saying is it's just fake to hear a NY cat trying so hard to steal from the South. IF any two producers from the South sound somewhat alike it makes sense. They have the same roots and they grew up with the same influences. But for a NY cat to blatantly steal from the South is like me coming out rapping like Naughty by Nature from New Orleans when they were hot.

It's just FAKE

[filterayok]

Originally Posted by themaestro

i hear you dude, but i still think you are oversimplifying their formulas. i'm pretty sure lil john doesn't hear a nitti beat and feel like dude is taking his style. and for your information i have no bias towards nitti, i am in competition with him every time i play tracks for a southern artist, i am not a nitti cheerleader or bandwagoner, but i do think that experienced musicians should be able to differentiate between the sounds of their peers and not make ignorant statements about them. saying that brian kidd sounds like polow is a fair statement. saying that at times rodney jerkins sounds a lot like brian michael cox is a fair statement. saying that swizz sounded like dame grease is a fair statement, but saying that nitti and john sound alike is something a girl or a dumb fan would say.

and sorry about the racial comment homey, i didn't see the harm in it, even today, it is a very common phenomena that many white people are unable to differentiate between all but the most famous african americans.

btw, i listened to the music on your myspace pages and i was quite impressed, keep doin your thing

haha your killin me with kindness, dawg --- i see what your sayin, your point is valid.. dont worry bout the racial thing i just gotta break your balls... i guess it comes down to the fact that i AM from NY, and to differentiate between southern trax is a bit more difficult cuz to me, theyre all just "southern trax" to me... its easier to see the details that make a certain thing unique when your up close to it, and i'm sure you wouldn't see much difference between slipknot and slayer either.... point taken

[D-Sane]

They just started playin' the song out here in Seattle not too long ago. Maybe about a month...month and a half ago. It's like that sometimes when the rest of the radio stations around the country are slow to add the record to their playlists. That's why it's picked up steam so fast...cuz all of a sudden the shit is gettin' added like crazy.

Then again...we only have 1 main station here in Seattle and the program directors are cool people...but they're not about breakin' records. They just play them once everyone else is. The shit is wack. And local music get NO LOVE.

Originally Posted by D-Sane

They just started playin' the song out here in Seattle not too long ago. Maybe about a month...month and a half ago. It's like that sometimes when the rest of the radio stations around the country are slow to add the record to their playlists. That's why it's picked up steam so fast...cuz all of a sudden the shit is gettin' added like crazy.

Then again...we only have 1 main station here in Seattle and the program directors are cool people...but they're not about breakin' records. They just play them once everyone else is. The shit is wack. And local music get NO LOVE.

That's not Seattle, that's the ENTIRE nation.
Breakin a record? What's that? It's all about $2500 a mix show and half a million in "indie promo" to be added nationally along with labels that promise their big acts for promo shows provided stations spin the lesser known acts.

THe only way to break in if you are not known is the slow process that this record has taken. Break it where you have the budget to break it, and grow from there.

[tommygee]

Its a bizarre discussion. People that say other people steal in this game doesnt know the soul of hip hop. Its ALL about TAKING and BLENDING guys !!!!! Thats how it all started with Herc, Flash, Bambataa etc.

NONE of those new southern groups can CLAIM they ORIGNATED that sound. The 808 sound go way back and many of the musical sounds comes from early techno (real techno) around '98-'92.

But anyway; we shouldnt shout up about stealing. Isnt music about being INSPIRED by each other. Can you name ONE of the music legends within ANY style of music, that wasnt inspired by other musicians ?????? Everything comes out of everything.

[paultools]

Originally Posted by no ssl yet

To me, the East Coast messed up when the began to have an "East Coast sound"

When they got pigenholed into a "sound" is when it led to Snoop coming through and crushing the buildings.

Herbie Love (SaltnPeppa, Dana Dane, Sweet T)
Run DMC
LL
Early BDP
Erick B and Rakim
Juice Crew stuff.
PE
Slick Rick's first album
Biggie
Jigga

None of this had an "East Coast" sound. It was just rap music. (DAMN GOOD Rap Music) YOu can't say that it all had an "East Coast" sound because none of it necessarily sounded alike. It was all rappers that could rap and that's about the only thing they all had in common.

Same thing with NWA/Snoop/Early Cube stuff. You couldnt really label it as a "west coast" sound. IT was just good music.

Wasn't it that Craig Mack song "Flava in Ya Ear" that brought the East "back" after the West was dominating?

[bknot1]

When I 1st heard the song (on the radio with Junior Reid & Cham) ..i thought it was a new southern cat out of the A...but i saw the video (which i like the remix better with J.R. & Cham)and i was like this cat from NY..

I thing its simple..and everyone is tryin to get that feel now to sell records...but his album will be like the rest of the NY artist that is droppin'..barely doin 350K-500K ...which still might be good for him..depending on his budget..

only time will decide..

Originally Posted by paultools

Wasn't it that Craig Mack song "Flava in Ya Ear" that brought the East "back" after the West was dominating?

Yeah, I'd say so. Again, I think it was just good music without a specific sound.

Man I used to love the Remix with Big, LL etc.... Just a bunch of cats spittin. It was kinda like the Grand Finale was for the West Coast.

Man I miss rap.