Rap Vocals - Reverb dope sounding settings, share!

masta1 · 14th February 2007, 04:15 PM

When using R Verb so far i seem to never be able to quite get that clean sound that say a Dre (not comparing simple example of what i'm after) or someone else gets even Esham's vocals sound really nice.

Whats some good settings or screeshots of the rverbs or other reverbs you have mixed and some mp3 examples! Post them in here, even though every track is different i feel all i need is a starting guideline!

Here is a screenshot of a poor first attempt at making a good custom setting:

I would really love to achieve the similar reverb you hear on the Marshall Mathers LP - or http://www.myspace.com/mastacraft - craftyzyoungthang verse - which was mixed using R Verb.

Hopefully this can be a guideline/tips for great sounding reverb of all kinds!

Regards,

MikeK · 14th February 2007, 05:28 PM

are you converting vocal tracks to stereo and then dropping the plug on the individual track? i prefer to use a separate stereo fx send and blend the amount of verb to taste. i also like a longer pre-delay on vocal verbs (50 ms+). you don't want to step on the beginnings of words. mono delays help as well to add depth, sometimes they sounds better than verbs.

con?one · 14th February 2007, 07:06 PM

how do i save a screenshot in windows?

MikeK · 14th February 2007, 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by con?one

how do i save a screenshot in windows?

if you just want the individual window, press Alt+PrintScreen, then paste it into Paint or whatever and save as jpg. for your whole screen just hit Print Screen and paste into paint, save.

Methlab · 14th February 2007, 09:24 PM

The princeton verb is nice for plates in rap.

PhonoquO · 15th February 2007, 12:14 AM

Wizooverb W2, Studio/Vocal Studio preset... Then play with the predelay and dial in. My go to for now

masta1 · 15th February 2007, 06:45 AM

How do you convert to stereo after recording it? Does that make it better quality?

Also a friend of mine who was mixing managed to like copy all the presets from one track to another one without having to do it all again - like it was automatically on the recording...How do i do that?

Also : Wizooverb W2 where do i get that from??

Regards,

MediokreBeats · 15th February 2007, 07:26 AM

masta1...stereo doesnt enhance the overall quality of a sound, its purpose is to create a spacial openess in the music and simulate a live performance. your vocals can be recorded in mono providing your not using a stereo mic i.e rode nt4, when incorporating it into a track however its good to have it as stero so the sound can be
placed anywhere in your stereo field, or when adding multitap delays, to delay one channel (common in hooks etc)

As for the copyin chanel query, It depends on what software your using, You can clone channels in Sonar by rightclicking the channel and selecting "clone track" a little popup come sup there and you can select what you want to duplicate - fx, audio, settings etc.

In regards to reverbs, here's my standard reverb settings i use for vocals in Sonar using the SonitusFx plug ins. Depending on the track of course, i prefer a nice subtle reverb to create the illusion of a more brighter place than where i record

masta1 · 15th February 2007, 08:21 AM

I'm using Pro Tools - know how to copy with that?

Regards,

khameln · 15th February 2007, 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by masta1

I'm using Pro Tools - know how to copy with that?

Regards,

The core paramaters are the same on most reverbs... So learn about reverb and audio and you'll know how to translate.

But in general, just copying settings never works, because in order to be effective everything needs to be set differently for different situations.

masta1 · 15th February 2007, 03:22 PM

No doubht,

What i am also curious is with Pro tools a friend of mine who mixes(i cant reach) has a way of copying over the presets used on one track to say the 2nd verse's track and so on - also just applying it over the vocals as they are recorded....Any idea how that works?

Regards

khameln · 15th February 2007, 03:35 PM

Hold the Option key and drag the insert to the new slot and it will copy the plugin in its current state (I wanna say it's alt-drag on windows? I always forget/confuse the key commands when I go back and forth between windows and osx)

masta1 · 23rd February 2007, 10:52 AM

thanks for that!

Just got the wizzo reverb! How exactly do i open it in protools?

Regards,

DivineMusic · 23rd February 2007, 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by masta1

thanks for that!

Just got the wizzo reverb! How exactly do i open it in protools?

Regards,

uhhh its a plugin... open it the same way you open any plugin in pt....
click on the insert, find it, open it

Quad · 25th February 2007, 07:28 AM

personally i use acid pro, i found mono somewhat dull and its reverb dull as well, while on instruments i love it on vocals i dont think its that great, anyone had work in acid?

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14th February 2007, 04:15 PM	#1
masta1 Gear maniac Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 173	Rap Vocals - Reverb dope sounding settings, share! When using R Verb so far i seem to never be able to quite get that clean sound that say a Dre (not comparing simple example of what i'm after) or someone else gets even Esham's vocals sound really nice. Whats some good settings or screeshots of the rverbs or other reverbs you have mixed and some mp3 examples! Post them in here, even though every track is different i feel all i need is a starting guideline! Here is a screenshot of a poor first attempt at making a good custom setting: I would really love to achieve the similar reverb you hear on the Marshall Mathers LP - or http://www.myspace.com/mastacraft - craftyzyoungthang verse - which was mixed using R Verb. Hopefully this can be a guideline/tips for great sounding reverb of all kinds! Regards,

14th February 2007, 07:06 PM	#3
con?one Lives for gear Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: NYC Posts: 665	how do i save a screenshot in windows? __________________ : : c o n ? o n e : : www.conone.net www.myspace.com/conone

15th February 2007, 07:26 AM	#8
MediokreBeats Gear interested Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 13	masta1...stereo doesnt enhance the overall quality of a sound, its purpose is to create a spacial openess in the music and simulate a live performance. your vocals can be recorded in mono providing your not using a stereo mic i.e rode nt4, when incorporating it into a track however its good to have it as stero so the sound can be placed anywhere in your stereo field, or when adding multitap delays, to delay one channel (common in hooks etc) As for the copyin chanel query, It depends on what software your using, You can clone channels in Sonar by rightclicking the channel and selecting "clone track" a little popup come sup there and you can select what you want to duplicate - fx, audio, settings etc. In regards to reverbs, here's my standard reverb settings i use for vocals in Sonar using the SonitusFx plug ins. Depending on the track of course, i prefer a nice subtle reverb to create the illusion of a more brighter place than where i record __________________ MedioKre Beats Beatsmith, Emcee & AV Technician Melbourne, Australia.

15th February 2007, 03:35 PM	#12
khameln Lives for gear Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 665	Hold the Option key and drag the insert to the new slot and it will copy the plugin in its current state (I wanna say it's alt-drag on windows? I always forget/confuse the key commands when I go back and forth between windows and osx) __________________ http://www.soundclick.com/codexlf http://www.myspace.com/khamelprod

14th February 2007, 05:28 PM	#2
MikeK Gear Head Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 63	are you converting vocal tracks to stereo and then dropping the plug on the individual track? i prefer to use a separate stereo fx send and blend the amount of verb to taste. i also like a longer pre-delay on vocal verbs (50 ms+). you don't want to step on the beginnings of words. mono delays help as well to add depth, sometimes they sounds better than verbs.

14th February 2007, 09:24 PM	#5
Methlab Lives for gear Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Orlando Posts: 2,424	The princeton verb is nice for plates in rap.

15th February 2007, 12:14 AM	#6
PhonoquO Lives for gear Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: North of Toronto Posts: 821	Wizooverb W2, Studio/Vocal Studio preset... Then play with the predelay and dial in. My go to for now

15th February 2007, 06:45 AM	#7
masta1 Gear maniac Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 173	How do you convert to stereo after recording it? Does that make it better quality? Also a friend of mine who was mixing managed to like copy all the presets from one track to another one without having to do it all again - like it was automatically on the recording...How do i do that? Also : Wizooverb W2 where do i get that from?? Regards,

15th February 2007, 08:21 AM	#9
masta1 Gear maniac Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 173	I'm using Pro Tools - know how to copy with that? Regards,

15th February 2007, 03:22 PM	#11
masta1 Gear maniac Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 173	No doubht, What i am also curious is with Pro tools a friend of mine who mixes(i cant reach) has a way of copying over the presets used on one track to say the 2nd verse's track and so on - also just applying it over the vocals as they are recorded....Any idea how that works? Regards

23rd February 2007, 10:52 AM	#13
masta1 Gear maniac Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 173	thanks for that! Just got the wizzo reverb! How exactly do i open it in protools? Regards,

25th February 2007, 07:28 AM	#15
Quad Gear nut Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 119	personally i use acid pro, i found mono somewhat dull and its reverb dull as well, while on instruments i love it on vocals i dont think its that great, anyone had work in acid?

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