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Old 1st February 2007, 12:30 AM   #1
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Taming booming kicks that mechanically distort woofers

Some of the kick samples I have are so booming (literally too bassy) that they make woofers move alot while not being as loud as kicks that are less boomy. It gets to the point where the woofers start to do a mechanical 'squeek' when moving back and forth alot. It's not my speakers as I monitor on multiple monitors and it happens on all including headphones. Problem is, these are my favorite samples at low volumes, but once I turn them up the speakers can't handle it.

Do others face this problem?

To best maintain the character and impact of these kinds of kicks what do you do?
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Cut some 40-60hz.
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Yea, stuff like this happens esp depending if you've used some pretty extreme filters (like a Sherman Filterbank) with all sorts of samples. It's totally possible to make some stuff that will make certain speaker systems cry. This mainly seems to be from actually clipping the amplifier when someone has a preamp boosted in the bass region. I mean some of these EQ's boost between 6-18dB, which is a HUGE amount of course.
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Cut some 40-60hz.
agreed. i normally roll off everything under 60hz. on the same note boost some mids in the bass so its still perceived on small computer speakers
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Some of the kick samples I have are so booming (literally too bassy) that they make woofers move alot while not being as loud as kicks that are less boomy. It gets to the point where the woofers start to do a mechanical 'squeek' when moving back and forth alot. It's not my speakers as I monitor on multiple monitors and it happens on all including headphones. Problem is, these are my favorite samples at low volumes, but once I turn them up the speakers can't handle it.

Do others face this problem?

To best maintain the character and impact of these kinds of kicks what do you do?
same here, i also tend to like kicks that have too much 60 and below when soloed they sound hot, once in the mix they totaly suck balls.
or if i do like the mix i can't get it loud cause the kick is so heavy no squashing without distortion is possible.
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agreed. i normally roll off everything under 60hz. on the same note boost some mids in the bass so its still perceived on small computer speakers
..or you can raise the pitch of the sample by cents or by semitones.
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on the same note boost some mids in the bass so its still perceived on small computer speakers
just to clarify i meant "on the same note" as "while i'm at it" not note as in C, A, E etc. i re-read my post and thought it may have been fuzzy
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just to clarify i meant "on the same note" as "while i'm at it" not note as in C, A, E etc. i re-read my post and thought it may have been fuzzy
Though it'd be nice to have a kick with some mids that were in key with the rest of the song.
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First, do like everyone is telling you and remove a good amount of 40-60 Hz.

Next, dive in with a three or four band multiband compressor and be a mad scientist. Compress the frequencies you don't like down, and leave the others open, or compress them up.

Be surgical, you have the ability to with the gear, and it will provide spectacular results if done with time and care.
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good advices all, thank you.
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