Renaissance Compressor

Fluency · 4th January 2007, 11:21 AM

Is it worth $200? i just got the native deesser & couldn't live w/out it, but is the r-compressor that much better than the regular compressor built into cubase & other programs? i've also heard ppl talking about some button on it that warms up vocals... didn't know how much that effected them. i'd usually just dl a demo, but i already did a couple of weeks ago - went out of state for awhile & didn't get a chance to use it though.

XHipHop · 4th January 2007, 11:27 AM

$150, brah.

Check the Waves Musicians II Bundle.

DivineMusic · 4th January 2007, 04:45 PM

one of the main itb comps i use

defjamm · 4th January 2007, 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XHipHop

$150, brah.

Check the Waves Musicians II Bundle.

http://www.waves.com/content.asp?id=1472

yes, don't buy it on it's own (if you decide to buy it), get the bundle...in addition you'll get the easy and fast to use renvox, a good and easy to use delay (supertap), a good workhouse eq and a doubler which can be good for some things but isn't as essential as the rest in the bundle.

PhonoquO · 4th January 2007, 06:19 PM

personnally, i think your money is much better spent on the Sonalksis compressor which sounds great. You can buy it online for $ 250 or buy the comp,eq,gate bundle for 500. The R-comp is still used by many, but i'm not that impressed with it's sound anymore.

defjamm · 4th January 2007, 06:39 PM

i agree, the sonalksis comp is awesome but also costs more. if he has a limited budget the musicians bundle 2 is great for the money.

Stitch333 · 4th January 2007, 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fluency

is the r-compressor that much better than the regular compressor built into cubase & other programs?

HELL yeah!

halfguard · 4th January 2007, 07:02 PM

any opinions on the renn maxx bundle..?? its about 3x the price but has a few more things...has the rex ch/bass/ de ess and a conv rev...

Stitch333 · 4th January 2007, 07:15 PM

I use ren deess, renvox and the r-comp most of the time. Staples for ITB werk.

t.dizzle · 4th January 2007, 07:23 PM

RComp is one of the best plugin comps in existence. Use it. It works good.

azwun25 · 4th January 2007, 07:34 PM

buying Waves plugs on at a time is crazy..get the Renn Maxx bundle the whole bundle is like $379 from dealers. buying from the Waves site is a rip off to say the least

Methlab · 4th January 2007, 08:02 PM

I choose Rcomp over Sonalksis (a very nice comp). It's just a ****ing classic. You can do so much with the Rcomp too, it's so versatile.

Rvox, Rdesser are in every mix I have vocals on. Rcompressor is in every mix period.

DivineMusic · 4th January 2007, 08:04 PM

as of late my top 3 itb compressors(not in this order)

Waves Rcomp
-clean trasparent sound, can crush audio with out actually hearing the compression at time.

Sonalksis sv315 v2
-great comp with analog like sound, can be trasparent but i tend to hear the compression when using this comp.

Voxengo Marquis
-becoming a fav for me. used it quite a bit over the last week and really like it and its sound.

of corse i have quite a few more ITB compressors but these ones get the most use

XHipHop · 4th January 2007, 08:05 PM

And Fluency I hope you aint been messing with no autotune...trying to sound like cher.

Don't think we forgot about that.

Lee702 · 4th January 2007, 08:10 PM

**TonyBelmont** · 5th January 2007, 12:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by azwun25

buying Waves plugs on at a time is crazy..get the Renn Maxx bundle

Agreed.

Quote:

Originally Posted by halfguard

any opinions on the renn maxx bundle..?? its about 3x the price but has a few more things...has the rex ch/bass/ de ess and a conv rev...

A much better purchase, because it includes the two MUST HAVE plugins: Renn De-esser and Renn Bass!

Fluency · 5th January 2007, 01:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XHipHop

And Fluency I hope you aint been messing with no autotune...trying to sound like cher.

Don't think we forgot about that.

check the sample (rough snippet) at the bottom & tell me if u think i was gonna try & sing a hook w/ my voice haha. i don't plan on takin the ja rule route anytime soon. one of my boy's is a good singer & i was gonna see how it would work w/ his voice.

but what's this "warm" button really do? i don't know what their definition of "warm" is exactly... but if it's another word for "brighten" then i probably wouldn't find it helpful considering i have a low voice & don't wanna sound like a chipmunk, & if it means "expands" in the length of the vocal sound then i probably wouldn't find it useful either. what would it exactly do to a lower voice? one thing i always have trouble w/ is myspace playback, it already butchers the quality & having a low voice & lower sounding overdubs on top of that doesn't help.

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taturana · 5th January 2007, 01:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fluency

check the sample (rough snippet) at the bottom & tell me if u think i was gonna try & sing a hook w/ my voice haha. i don't plan on takin the ja rule route anytime soon. one of my boy's is a good singer & i was gonna see how it would work w/ his voice.

but what's this "warm" button really do? i don't know what their definition of "warm" is exactly... but if it's another word for "brighten" then i probably wouldn't find it helpful considering i have a low voice & don't wanna sound like a chipmunk, & if it means "expands" in the length of the vocal sound then i probably wouldn't find it useful either. what would it exactly do to a lower voice? one thing i always have trouble w/ is myspace playback, it already butchers the quality & having a low voice & lower sounding overdubs on top of that doesn't help.

I'm So Fly
lo-fi URL: http://www.soundclick.com/util/getpl...d=4845511&q=lo
hi-fi URL: http://www.soundclick.com/util/getpl...d=4845511&q=hi

i think the warm button boosts the low end a bit at extreme compression settings... while i may set it to warm for vocals per example, i use it on bass or anything that already has a good bass content on the smooth setting, as the warm setting can sound a bit muddy there...

you can also switch the simulation between opto and electro, which changes the character of the rcomp too...

but lately my rcomp is being phased out by the urs 1970 and the waves ssl suite, and i am much more happier with the results... still rcomp is a classic...and for many years one of the most used plugins i had ,if not "the"most used plugin i have

defjamm · 5th January 2007, 02:09 AM

taturana is right, from the manual:

"This button chooses between Smooth and Warm low-frequency characteristics, which certainly can also affect
wideband character, depending on the source material.
Warm adds low frequency harmonics as deeper compression is applied (greater gain reduction).
Smooth avoids adding such harmonics, keeping the sound as close as possible to the original"

coolout · 5th January 2007, 02:15 AM

if you're not using protools, i'd suggest getting a UAD-1 and you'll be straight for compressors.

blayz2002 · 5th January 2007, 11:24 PM

Regardless if you have the UAD bundle, which I do or the Sonalksis comp which I've tested (it is real nice, but different) the Ren Comp is still a good buy, as mentioned it is very versatile. It has it's own flavour, the Warm functiion is usefull at times, dependant on material.

I just find it just does a nice job on certain vocals inclduing rappers, when you need a smooth vibe, I some times use it for 2 bus compression (with the right settings you can get a nice spungy feel, when you want that warm, round bouncy kinda vibe, that works with some of todays RnB stuff)

As you know different comps give different feel, and flavour, this is one that will always get inserted from time to time. I'ts also real quick to set up if your pushed for time, and need quick results.

I did buy it separate, co's I recently had to rebuild my machine (and was previously using a crack.....don't flame me) and lost that one, and although I had the UAD LA2A and 1176, I knew I was gonna need that flavour. Now I just need the Maxx Bass, co's ain't found nothing than can fill that void either!

XHipHop · 5th January 2007, 11:30 PM

Alright, what's the deal with maxx bass? I've never used it. What's it good on?

taturana · 5th January 2007, 11:42 PM

maxx bass is supposed to simulate more bass using psychoacoustics and stuff in the low mid that make people hear more bass...especially in tiny multimedia speakers...

unless you're making music fo videogames... i would recommend not using it... it smears the sound and messes up phase real bad... i never got a single good thing out of any bass enhancing plugins... if i need more bass i'll eq it corrrectly.... and add bit of compression. or even use a multiband comp, but no maxxbass for me...

blayz2002 · 5th January 2007, 11:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by taturana

maxx bass is supposed to simulate more bass using psychoacoustics and stuff in the low mid that make people hear more bass...especially in tiny multimedia speakers...

unless you're making music fo videogames... i would recommend not using it... it smears the sound and messes up phase real bad... i never got a single good thing out of any bass enhancing plugins... if i need more bass i'll eq it corrrectly.... and add bit of compression. or even use a multiband comp, but no maxxbass for me...

You might have something there, I haven't used this for about 2 years now, and my mixing has come on leaps and bounds since I was using it and also got some better eq and comp plugs now. At the time it help me get some bigger sounds (more mid lows harmonics from some of my bass) but sometimes I definately couldn't get good results with it.

I'm mixing a RnB track at the moment and had real probs getting the bass right (full enough, without dominating) and was wishing I had the Max Bass, but spent a bit more time with the eq and compression and it stated falling into place.

J Twin · 6th January 2007, 12:31 AM

For those who've demoed or otherwise used any them, how does the Ren compare to Waves SSL or the URS stuff? What does the Ren work well with, and what should it be avoided on?

World Of Wiz · 6th January 2007, 02:36 AM

Well I think some of the setting are supose to sound like a SSL. I do have a have a preset called ssl.

Wiz

halfguard · 6th January 2007, 06:44 AM

im demoing the renn maxx bundle as we speak

its looking like i might just pick up the musicians bundle 2 and something else...i like the r vox and the rcomp and eq are good....

6th January 2007, 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by taturana

maxx bass is supposed to simulate more bass using psychoacoustics and stuff in the low mid that make people hear more bass...especially in tiny multimedia speakers...

unless you're making music fo videogames... i would recommend not using it... it smears the sound and messes up phase real bad... i never got a single good thing out of any bass enhancing plugins... if i need more bass i'll eq it corrrectly.... and add bit of compression. or even use a multiband comp, but no maxxbass for me...

I respect your opinion, but Maxx bass and Renn Bass do their job over here (along with the dbx120).

An umbrella is not worth much if you don't open it when it rains.

But that doesnt mean umbrellas are useless.

Flymax · 6th January 2007, 02:12 PM

RComp is very good and gets used on a lot of records.

The story on MaxBass that I was told by the guy who teaches the ProTools class at FMC in NY is that MaxBass is a technology that Motorola came up with. It was to make cell phones sound louder on those crappy little speakers..
What it's doing is creating a harmonic one octave above the bass freq..
Tricks the ear so little speakers sound like they're bumping..

Goliath|Audio · 6th January 2007, 04:53 PM

I agree with the guys saying to get the bundle. IT COMES WITH IRL!!!!!! That is a killer reverb. Once you have it, go get the CBGB club impulse sample. WOW!

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4th January 2007, 11:21 AM	#1
Fluency Gear maniac Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: KC Posts: 244	Renaissance Compressor Is it worth $200? i just got the native deesser & couldn't live w/out it, but is the r-compressor that much better than the regular compressor built into cubase & other programs? i've also heard ppl talking about some button on it that warms up vocals... didn't know how much that effected them. i'd usually just dl a demo, but i already did a couple of weeks ago - went out of state for awhile & didn't get a chance to use it though. __________________ I’m fearless, Now hear this/ I’m earless, And I’m peerless/ That means I’m eyeless, Which means I’m tearless/ Which means my iris resides where my ear is/ - Lupe Fiasco, "Dumb it Down" Flu's Myspace

4th January 2007, 07:15 PM	#9
Stitch333 Lives for gear Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Phila, PA/Upstate MA Posts: 2,353	I use ren deess, renvox and the r-comp most of the time. Staples for ITB werk. __________________ www.myspace.com/stitchproductions "Half shark, half man, skin like alligator...carrying a dead walrus..." "I think this sheet metal that says NEVE on it can be made into a mic pre. It already sounds better than anything else I own." -D.W.

4th January 2007, 07:23 PM	#10
t.dizzle Lives for gear Join Date: May 2006 Location: Purgatory Posts: 916	RComp is one of the best plugin comps in existence. Use it. It works good. __________________ Clearly def

4th January 2007, 07:34 PM	#11
azwun25 Lives for gear Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Roman Empire State Posts: 1,431	buying Waves plugs on at a time is crazy..get the Renn Maxx bundle the whole bundle is like $379 from dealers. buying from the Waves site is a rip off to say the least __________________ "If the opposite of pro is a con then look beyond this The opposite of congress must be progress" ~Cage Grand Ol' Party Crash

4th January 2007, 11:27 AM	#2
XHipHop Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 2,022	$150, brah. Check the Waves Musicians II Bundle.

4th January 2007, 04:45 PM	#3
DivineMusic Lives for gear Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hotlanta Posts: 1,552	one of the main itb comps i use

4th January 2007, 06:19 PM	#5
PhonoquO Lives for gear Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: North of Toronto Posts: 821	personnally, i think your money is much better spent on the Sonalksis compressor which sounds great. You can buy it online for $ 250 or buy the comp,eq,gate bundle for 500. The R-comp is still used by many, but i'm not that impressed with it's sound anymore.

4th January 2007, 06:39 PM	#6
defjamm Lives for gear Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Germany Posts: 566	i agree, the sonalksis comp is awesome but also costs more. if he has a limited budget the musicians bundle 2 is great for the money.

4th January 2007, 07:02 PM	#8
halfguard Lives for gear Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: south fla Posts: 1,007	any opinions on the renn maxx bundle..?? its about 3x the price but has a few more things...has the rex ch/bass/ de ess and a conv rev...

4th January 2007, 08:02 PM	#12
Methlab Lives for gear Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Orlando Posts: 2,424	I choose Rcomp over Sonalksis (a very nice comp). It's just a ****ing classic. You can do so much with the Rcomp too, it's so versatile. Rvox, Rdesser are in every mix I have vocals on. Rcompressor is in every mix period.

4th January 2007, 08:04 PM	#13
DivineMusic Lives for gear Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hotlanta Posts: 1,552	as of late my top 3 itb compressors(not in this order) Waves Rcomp -clean trasparent sound, can crush audio with out actually hearing the compression at time. Sonalksis sv315 v2 -great comp with analog like sound, can be trasparent but i tend to hear the compression when using this comp. Voxengo Marquis -becoming a fav for me. used it quite a bit over the last week and really like it and its sound. of corse i have quite a few more ITB compressors but these ones get the most use

4th January 2007, 08:05 PM	#14
XHipHop Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 2,022	And Fluency I hope you aint been messing with no autotune...trying to sound like cher. Don't think we forgot about that.

4th January 2007, 08:10 PM	#15
Lee702 Gear nut Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 121

5th January 2007, 02:09 AM	#19
defjamm Lives for gear Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Germany Posts: 566	taturana is right, from the manual: "This button chooses between Smooth and Warm low-frequency characteristics, which certainly can also affect wideband character, depending on the source material. Warm adds low frequency harmonics as deeper compression is applied (greater gain reduction). Smooth avoids adding such harmonics, keeping the sound as close as possible to the original"

5th January 2007, 02:15 AM	#20
coolout Gear maniac Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 161	if you're not using protools, i'd suggest getting a UAD-1 and you'll be straight for compressors. __________________ check me out: www.myspace.com/coolout

5th January 2007, 11:24 PM	#21
blayz2002 Lives for gear Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London UK Posts: 880	Ren Comp is a good for your arsenal Regardless if you have the UAD bundle, which I do or the Sonalksis comp which I've tested (it is real nice, but different) the Ren Comp is still a good buy, as mentioned it is very versatile. It has it's own flavour, the Warm functiion is usefull at times, dependant on material. I just find it just does a nice job on certain vocals inclduing rappers, when you need a smooth vibe, I some times use it for 2 bus compression (with the right settings you can get a nice spungy feel, when you want that warm, round bouncy kinda vibe, that works with some of todays RnB stuff) As you know different comps give different feel, and flavour, this is one that will always get inserted from time to time. I'ts also real quick to set up if your pushed for time, and need quick results. I did buy it separate, co's I recently had to rebuild my machine (and was previously using a crack.....don't flame me) and lost that one, and although I had the UAD LA2A and 1176, I knew I was gonna need that flavour. Now I just need the Maxx Bass, co's ain't found nothing than can fill that void either! __________________ "This is what I love about mixing though ...it's never the same twice"!

5th January 2007, 11:30 PM	#22
XHipHop Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 2,022	Alright, what's the deal with maxx bass? I've never used it. What's it good on?

5th January 2007, 11:42 PM	#23
taturana Lives for gear Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 2,528	maxx bass is supposed to simulate more bass using psychoacoustics and stuff in the low mid that make people hear more bass...especially in tiny multimedia speakers... unless you're making music fo videogames... i would recommend not using it... it smears the sound and messes up phase real bad... i never got a single good thing out of any bass enhancing plugins... if i need more bass i'll eq it corrrectly.... and add bit of compression. or even use a multiband comp, but no maxxbass for me...

6th January 2007, 12:31 AM	#25
J Twin Lives for gear Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Yay Area Posts: 518	For those who've demoed or otherwise used any them, how does the Ren compare to Waves SSL or the URS stuff? What does the Ren work well with, and what should it be avoided on? __________________ http://www.myspace.com/jtwinbeats

6th January 2007, 02:36 AM	#26
World Of Wiz Gear maniac Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: San Diego, CA USA Posts: 192	Well I think some of the setting are supose to sound like a SSL. I do have a have a preset called ssl. Wiz

6th January 2007, 06:44 AM	#27
halfguard Lives for gear Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: south fla Posts: 1,007	im demoing the renn maxx bundle as we speak its looking like i might just pick up the musicians bundle 2 and something else...i like the r vox and the rcomp and eq are good....

6th January 2007, 02:12 PM	#29
Flymax Lives for gear Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 794	RComp is very good and gets used on a lot of records. The story on MaxBass that I was told by the guy who teaches the ProTools class at FMC in NY is that MaxBass is a technology that Motorola came up with. It was to make cell phones sound louder on those crappy little speakers.. What it's doing is creating a harmonic one octave above the bass freq.. Tricks the ear so little speakers sound like they're bumping.. __________________ http://www.myspace.com/dreamlandrecording http://www.myspace.com/petecizrock

6th January 2007, 04:53 PM	#30
Goliath\|Audio Lives for gear Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Misshiggin Posts: 553	I agree with the guys saying to get the bundle. IT COMES WITH IRL!!!!!! That is a killer reverb. Once you have it, go get the CBGB club impulse sample. WOW!