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Best condensor mic under $1000

Which do you like that is under $1000. Shure 32 how is it. Which Audio Technica? What else is nice?
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different mics suit different things. The at 4050 is said to be a great all round mic.. but i have had no experience with it.. im just a youngin tryna learn basics..
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Rode K2 .... great mic for 500 e ( IMHO )


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the at 4050 and at 4060 are both excellent mics. have used both many times.
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The AT 4050 is a great mic...the ADK Vienna has mucho bang-for-the-buck, and sounds good on almost everything.

Either would be a great choice for less than $1K...
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Rode NTK is good for some voices also, I'm getting ready to sell mine. Cause I don't use it, but it's a nice mic.

IMO the TLM-103 is my favorite vocal mic. I got mine for 7-8 hundred, I don't know how much they are now.
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"sinful nature" was done with a DBX 286 mic pre and an 4050

"96.1 diss" was done on a u87 with an avalon 747 mic pre

"Ladies Say" was done on the tlm-103
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TLM103, 414ULS, At4050, Rode NT-2, NT-K
Hmmm interesting you included the 414uls version b/c i personally can not stand that mic....
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lots of great vocal mics under $1000.

here's one i mixed a while back with a MXL V69ME ~~> FMR RNP ~~> RNC ~~>Emu 1820M ~~> Nuendo....then some extra compression with a distressor.
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IMO Soundelux U195, Rode K2, Audio Technica 4050
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Waiting on a phone call browsing todays posts and thought I would throw in my opinion.

Generally speaking you will never go wrong with a Shure mic. I personally love the KSM series and highly recommend them. I was turned on to them in a live situation by a guy named Jeff Good, soundman for a now famous rock band. He was also one of the best sounding engineers I have worked with. He was using the KSM 32 on the Guitars and I was floored at how good they sounded.

However on this board you will probably not get much support for this mic as they are domestic and don't cost thousands of dollars. If you can't make a decent sounding recording with the KSM series then you may want to reconsider your line of work, or hobby.

When you get a couple grand to flush then worry about brand name

Go with the Shure and don't look back.

P.S. NEVER overlook a 58 or beta model..They are not "industry standard" gear for nothing........
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one of the best mic's i have bought here lately that would fall into your requirements would be the RED Type b bottle mic.

impressive mic!
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I recommend the Red Type B plus B6 (R6) capsule or B7, (R7, M7), too. Better than my AT 4050. I have two AT 4050 but mostly use the Red Mic Type B from which I also have two mics. The Red Mic is more open, more detailed sounding than the AT 4050. I use the Red mic mostly with the tube preamp stage of the Pendulum Quartet II.
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Phantom, U195, km84, Avenson STO-2... Wait does it have to be an LDC?

The vocals for 'A to tha Z' on my myspace page were recorded on the phantom. I actually have a lot of different phantom tracks... I could post some clips if you're interested.
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Red Type B

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one of the best mic's i have bought here lately that would fall into your requirements would be the RED Type b bottle mic.
i just got the Red Type B for Xmas (with R8 capsule) and i love it so far.
i also have (and recommend) an AT4047.
the Type B sounds better on my voice than the 4047 going through a 737, with just a bit more openness than the 4047.
but either one of these are great choices.

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I recommend the Red Type B plus B6 (R6) capsule or B7, (R7, M7), too. Better than my AT 4050. I have two AT 4050 but mostly use the Red Mic Type B from which I also have two mics. The Red Mic is more open, more detailed sounding than the AT 4050. I use the Red mic mostly with the tube preamp stage of the Pendulum Quartet II.
funny that you mentioned the Quartet; that's the preamp/channel strip i am looking to get next. it's good to hear you like it with the Red Type B.
i am planning on getting the R7 (B7) capsule next.

overall i am very impressed with the Type B!!


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There is a ton of good stuff under $1k, the only fair answer is suggestions from experience but nobody can deliver the best mic for "______" is "______" period.

Having said that, I am with Pan on this one. For under $1k, the standard RED Type B with R8 "Red" capsule is a great system, but as mentioned above by vocalworld above the R6 / R7 capsules are stellar but take the price to probably a couple of bags of plasma over $1k.

At least you get a couple of cookies after you donate.

The sE Electronics Titan is a damn good mic period, a rich sound with this really cool kind of "smoky jazz club" smooth top end going on that I really enjoy. Great vibe mic that doesn't get much talk but is worth every penny.

The AEA R84 in my opinion is the greatest ribbon under $1k...don't forget about adding a high quality ribbon to the rig as it opens up an entirely new world of sounds vs. condensors.

I reserve the right to change my mind depending on what I'm pointing where.

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i am planning on getting the R7 (B7) capsule next.

overall i am very impressed with the Type B!!


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Glad to hear you are digging it. Having said that, as far as adding capsules goes the R7 is going to sound closer to your AT4047 than the R6 capsules (the AT4047 and R7 capsule are both going for that U47 sound, midrange forward with a somewhat darker top end). I would go R6 next, it will have a more distinctive sound from your AT mic.

EDIT: Before anybody asks...no I have not done a side by side comparison of an AT4047 & RED R7.

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There are a bunch of small mic companies with good sounding, inexpensive mics. Karma, Cascade, ShinyBox, Apex, T.Bone, soundelux. I have a karma k55, got it for under 200. It sounded pretty good when I got it but after recapping and swapping out the tube it sounds REALLY good. There are even conversations about the new telefunken mics being similar in build to the Apex 460...or dave thomas does mods to the 460. I believe his company is called advanced audio.
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.......Having said that, as far as adding capsules goes the R7 is going to sound closer to your AT4047 than the R6 capsules (the AT4047 and R7 capsule are both going for that U47 sound, midrange forward with a somewhat darker top end). I would go R6 next, it will have a more distinctive sound from your AT mic.

EDIT: Before anybody asks...no I have not done a side by side comparison of an AT4047 & RED R7.

thanks War for the suggestion.
would you say that the R6 capsule is significantly different-sounding than the R8? i know it is more expensive for a reason, but how does the sound of the R6 compare to that of the R8? i wouldn't want to get an R6 if it is too close to the sound of the R8...

i know it is hard to describe a capsule's sound in words, but what are some differences between these two that you can easily describe?

and a big shout out to you and Shane for helping me pick out the mic and for your excellent customer service. i will not hesitate to recommend you guys to my friends that need gear


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JD, I try hard so thank you for the kind words.

OK, my picks for top versatile capsules in the RED line up are:

R8: All purpose, tuned in a manner that does not necessarily make one section of the frequency range more dominant. Neutral but with a good depth to it, natural and full sound.

R6: Scooped mids and a brighter / richer sounding top by comparison to the more neutral R8. When we first started tracking stuff with this capsule it compared very well to an original C12 capsule (C12A) although the original C12 had a more extended bottom end. Otherwise, RED nailed the flavor of this mic (we are also talking comparing to a 25+ year old C12A mic that might not represent the entire C12 race...).

R7: Forward mids and a more attenuated top end sound by comparison to the more neutral R8. We didn't have a real U-47 to compare to, but at one point we threw it up against the Lawson L-47 on voice, drums, guitars etc. No contest, the Red R7 had a clearer sound and the Lawson was a bit muddy by comparison. You could tell they were both going for that 47 sound though, but the guy who owned the Lawson said he would typically rather have the Red on most sources and I agreed.

So those 3 capsules in my opinion are the first buys in building the Red collection as they all do different things and complement each other the most.

A bit more info: The R0 is like a more extreme version of the R6 with a brighter top and bigger bottom. It's funny in a way to hear the R2 which is a condensor...tuned like a ribbon. Really did a good job on that one, it certainly is a ribbon-like sound! The R4 is a very clean and open and detailed sound that I've also had some limited experience with.

Hope this helps - War
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Bla bla bla, let's hear them! Proof is in the puddin' right? I'd be really interested to hear a KSM32/44 back to back with a Red Type and a 4047 and/or a 4050. I guess there's always the listening sessions too =)
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Which do you like that is under $1000. Shure 32 how is it. Which Audio Technica? What else is nice?
Langevin CR 2001 is VERY good for different purposes. I used it for rap, singing, guitar, overhead etc.
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Bla bla bla, let's hear them! Proof is in the puddin' right? I'd be really interested to hear a KSM32/44 back to back with a Red Type and a 4047 and/or a 4050. I guess there's always the listening sessions too =)
Guarantee you've heard the 4050 and c414 in songs. You can't go wrong with the 4050, at 599.00 or cheaper. Also I just tested a Rode K2 and its a very very good mic at that price also. Rode's seemed to get "Behringered" all the time, but their good mics.
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Oh yeah, two great, inexpensive mics off the shelf...
Shure SM7
EV RE20

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Guarantee you've heard the 4050 and c414 in songs. You can't go wrong with the 4050, at 599.00 or cheaper. Also I just tested a Rode K2 and its a very very good mic at that price also. Rode's seemed to get "Behringered" all the time, but their good mics.
Ya but I want to hear them together, back to back to get an acurate comparison. I was at the Listening Sessions and the 414s seems a little "woofy" to me. The 4050 seems to have a nicer low end. I wonder what they sound like with the mics mentioned above, especially the KSM.
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Been lovin this CM47-LE for like under $650US

Nady TCM1050 body with Peluso CEK367 capsule,Sovtek6072a (I'd look for a decent NOS replacement) and CineMag 2461 tranny (HUGE)





Robust low end and smooth top..It's pretty spanky
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Rode's seemed to get "Behringered" all the time, but their good mics.
And to be honest...Behringer proved themselves to be VERY good these past 2 years. The reviews are very good when you are comparing price-value. I tried out the Behringer ADA as a pre amp for miking my drumkit and I was stunned by the outcome! Very good. I do believe though, that you should buy a better pre amp for all other recordings like vocals, guitar etc
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Been lovin this CM47-LE for like under $650US

Nady TCM1050 body with Peluso CEK367 capsule,Sovtek6072a (I'd look for a decent NOS replacement) and CineMag 2461 tranny (HUGE)





Robust low end and smooth top..It's pretty spanky
That looks interesting, any more info on it? Where can I get one?
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There are even conversations about the new telefunken mics being similar in build to the Apex 460...or dave thomas does mods to the 460. I believe his company is called advanced audio.
The sticker on the above mic = "Advanced Audio"

Yo, that mic looks niiiiice
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