Recording with Big Drums

Trev Tieken · 28th October 2009

Man I been waiting for somthing like this, such a hugh fan of Tommy, Scott, Chris and all the old ChopShop recordings. I have a few questions for Tommy or Scott or Chris.

1.) Me and my bro are way into recording big drums (26,28,and up kicks), we mostly create samples of em in our basement and use them. Are there any tips on micing and processing big drums for sampling?

2.) Are Tommys samples from Never A Dull Moment the same Samples on Rob Zombies Sinister Urge, me and my bro just know they are. And what type of reverb did you use on the snare on those two albums, its such a dirty sweet reverb.

3.) Scott, On Rob Zombies Educated Horses how did you record the Bass, Guitar, and Vocals. Everything sounds so open, raw and old school on that album.

4.) Scott and Chris, what are your fave signal chains for Vocals, Bass, Drums, and Guitar, anything special you do.

Thanks,
Hope to hear back.
Trevin

Chris Baseford · 28th October 2009

Thanks for the questions Trev.

I'll answer your 4th question, which in turn will probably answer your 3rd as well. Favorite signal chains... obviously depends on the kind of sound we're going for, but as a starting point at both The Chop Shop and The Atrium, this is kind of how things end up:

vocal: U47 -> Manley Vox Box
guitars: 57, 421, PR30 -> Neve 1073 or Vintech X73
Bass: Avalon U5 (DI), RE20 or 421 or AT4047 (amp)
Drums -
kick - fet47, AT4047, RE20, 421 -> Neve -> Mercury EQP
snare - 57, PR20, AE3000 -> Neve -> Transient Designer
toms - AE3000, 421 -> Neve
OH - Earthworks, B&K -> Universal Audio 610
Rooms - any large diaphragm condensor (87's, 414's, 4050's) -> 1176
Ambient - Coles 4038, AT4047, u47 -> Mercury 66

This is a similar setup for the Educated Horses album.

C.

Trev Tieken · 29th October 2009

Cool, alot of my research on the chopshop and atrium was really close. I've looked up alot of the stuff from that studio, the eq or mix magazine article from 2002 about recording tommys drums for Never a Dull Moment has been a kinda basis for how we go about recording drums.
Thanks,
T

28th October 2009	#1
Trev Tieken Gear interested Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 2 Thread Starter	Recording with Big Drums Man I been waiting for somthing like this, such a hugh fan of Tommy, Scott, Chris and all the old ChopShop recordings. I have a few questions for Tommy or Scott or Chris. 1.) Me and my bro are way into recording big drums (26,28,and up kicks), we mostly create samples of em in our basement and use them. Are there any tips on micing and processing big drums for sampling? 2.) Are Tommys samples from Never A Dull Moment the same Samples on Rob Zombies Sinister Urge, me and my bro just know they are. And what type of reverb did you use on the snare on those two albums, its such a dirty sweet reverb. 3.) Scott, On Rob Zombies Educated Horses how did you record the Bass, Guitar, and Vocals. Everything sounds so open, raw and old school on that album. 4.) Scott and Chris, what are your fave signal chains for Vocals, Bass, Drums, and Guitar, anything special you do. Thanks, Hope to hear back. Trevin

Thread Tools	Search this Thread
Show Printable Version Email this Page	Search this Thread: Advanced Search

Similar Threads
Thread	Thread starter	Forum	Replies	Last Post
Alt. Rock recording with female vox, hand drums, drums, acoustic + electric guitars	DreamSound	Work In Progress / Advice Requested / Show & Tell / Artist Showcase / Mix-Offs	0	24th December 2008 10:49 PM
Recording Drums in a Big room with a Chimney.	brooklynhero	Studio building / acoustics	4	18th December 2008 04:24 PM
BIG ROOMY DRUMS!!!	chymer	So much gear, so little time!	10	3rd February 2007 06:16 PM
Big Sandy Drums	Ghede	So much gear, so little time!	3	8th August 2006 03:04 AM
Recording drums in a big hall	Atari	So much gear, so little time!	0	13th June 2005 07:55 PM

28th October 2009	#2
Chris Baseford Gear interested Joined: Oct 2009 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 24	Thanks for the questions Trev. I'll answer your 4th question, which in turn will probably answer your 3rd as well. Favorite signal chains... obviously depends on the kind of sound we're going for, but as a starting point at both The Chop Shop and The Atrium, this is kind of how things end up: vocal: U47 -> Manley Vox Box guitars: 57, 421, PR30 -> Neve 1073 or Vintech X73 Bass: Avalon U5 (DI), RE20 or 421 or AT4047 (amp) Drums - kick - fet47, AT4047, RE20, 421 -> Neve -> Mercury EQP snare - 57, PR20, AE3000 -> Neve -> Transient Designer toms - AE3000, 421 -> Neve OH - Earthworks, B&K -> Universal Audio 610 Rooms - any large diaphragm condensor (87's, 414's, 4050's) -> 1176 Ambient - Coles 4038, AT4047, u47 -> Mercury 66 This is a similar setup for the Educated Horses album. C.

29th October 2009	#3
Trev Tieken Gear interested Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 2 Thread Starter	Cool, alot of my research on the chopshop and atrium was really close. I've looked up alot of the stuff from that studio, the eq or mix magazine article from 2002 about recording tommys drums for Never a Dull Moment has been a kinda basis for how we go about recording drums. Thanks, T