Creating the new "music revolution".. do you think it is possible to save music?

[ScottAltiz]

Tchad,
Of course, thank you for doing this. I must admit, I had no idea you worked with Soul Coughing and phish until this forum, and they have been two of the more influential bands in terms of sound and direction for me.
Anyway, a few buddies and I get together every few weeks and record/talk about music. Time and time again, the topic of music becoming too stagnent, too commercial, uninteresting..etc.. comes up. While the majority of us have no problem finding good music, we feel it is unfortunate that the general public is no longer subjected to bands like zeppelin, the dead, doors, hendrix, and so on on a regular basis.
Do you feel the same way? If so, and definatly being a leading engineer/producer in terms of experimentation and downright bad-assery, do you feel as if at some point, music in general is going to explode again some day and be full of creativity? I feel as if it has already begun to happen on a small scale, with many bands going back to doing live recordings as opposed to constant ODing until everything is absolutely perfect. I'm just curious if you (or anyone for that matter!) feel the same way!
Sorry for the relatively confusing and long post. Just thought it would be cool to talk to you about music rather then specific ways to achieve sounds or settings! It's all about experimentation, right?
Cheers,
Scott

[tchadb]

Originally Posted by ScottAltiz

Tchad,
Of course, thank you for doing this. I must admit, I had no idea you worked with Soul Coughing and phish until this forum, and they have been two of the more influential bands in terms of sound and direction for me.
Anyway, a few buddies and I get together every few weeks and record/talk about music. Time and time again, the topic of music becoming too stagnent, too commercial, uninteresting..etc.. comes up. While the majority of us have no problem finding good music, we feel it is unfortunate that the general public is no longer subjected to bands like zeppelin, the dead, doors, hendrix, and so on on a regular basis.
Do you feel the same way? If so, and definatly being a leading engineer/producer in terms of experimentation and downright bad-assery, do you feel as if at some point, music in general is going to explode again some day and be full of creativity? I feel as if it has already begun to happen on a small scale, with many bands going back to doing live recordings as opposed to constant ODing until everything is absolutely perfect. I'm just curious if you (or anyone for that matter!) feel the same way!
Sorry for the relatively confusing and long post. Just thought it would be cool to talk to you about music rather then specific ways to achieve sounds or settings! It's all about experimentation, right?
Cheers,
Scott

I think I know what you're trying to get at but I'm not sure about the 'majority vs. the general public' part.
Here's me...... rambling....
Some people like art and some like entertainment and then there's plenty inbetween with room for all.
All the bands you mentioned are great bands but remember there were hundreds of popular bands in their time that few remember now.
Bands like Zepplin, The Doors and Hendrix were very competitive and experimental and that's now diminished in that genre.
But pop music has moved on.
As an example, Rap is a new frontier in experimentaion. It's the '60s all over again. Lyric, sounds and rhythm are up for grabs and it's fantastic. What it may lack in melody, it makes up in content. There's great stuff happening, but there's also lots of stuff that won't be remembered one year from now, just like the old days.
So what's changed?
Nothing, except in quantity. There's a whole lot more of everything.
I like all sorts. Stina Nordenstam, Tupac, Tom Waits on the 'art' side to Madonna, TLC and Michael Jackson for entertainment, and then a whole world of music that straddles the two. Different music for various reasons and/or moods.
From what I can see, it's the business of music which became stagnant, not music itself, and that's now changing.
The '70s through the '90s saw bloated signings and budgets that were just outrageous. Many including moi benefitted. Now we're all complaining about shrinking budgets, but I'm wondering why they ever got so high in the first place, so..what happens?....market adjustments, and they usually adjust downward. Very painful, especially for the art side....well, maybe that's unfair but... there you go....
Buuuuuut !!!awhen all the munney stuff gets figgeredd out on the intraanet, I thaank the busyness of moosic will rise up again!!! and expellode!!! upon the worryeld ..and be as bigger then ever in ever!!!??$#%@#%^&*!!!Ayemen.

Just look at the markets the net has access to...the whole planet and...!!!
It's all about property rights and when people are secure with that, things move forward.
Music is a strange and wonderful beast. It bypasses our process of identification and seemingly goes right into being an emotion, a direct injection to your very core. You don't have to put any effort into it (though it's good when you do) and you cannot keep it out. Even if you can't 'hear' it gets into your bones and makes you jiggle and wiggle.
That kind of power gets chemical and when you're young, learning new stuff like music, sex and love, those sounds you hear seem to merge with your chromosomes and no other sounds later in life will do quite what the sounds (and probably smells) from your youth did. You can love new music, but I venture to say that it's rarely as emotional as the 'old stuff' you used to listen to, and that's OK.
Same for every generation. Know it.
So, there's stuff you like and stuff you don't. Stuff that's good and stuff that's bad. That's my spiel and I'm sticking to it.
Where do we go from here?..........music doesn't need saving. Like the planet and everything else, it's always changing.
dfegad

[paterno]

Well put. And nice use of Smilies...

JP

[max cooper]

great P.O.V.

Thanks.

[DirkB]

Originally Posted by tchad blake

music doesn't need saving. Like the planet and everything else, it's always changing.

Thanks you for that!

Greetings,
Dirk Brouns

[ScottAltiz]

You know what? you're right. Great thoughts! I can definatly agree with that. Thanks much!!

[Alex Niedt]

Couldn't agree more.

[intolerance]

That part after "Music is a strange and wonderful beast." I'll be quoting, Beautiful.