sm58, beta? other shure dynamics?

staticwhitesound · 16th July 2009

Hi John,
Because you are a pretty big fan of the sm58, I was wondering do you always use the standard sm58 or do you use the Beta 58 as well? If you do use the beta sometimes, for which application do you use which? Also, are you a fan of any of the other Shure dynamics? The sm7, for instance?

Thanks,
Pat

johnleckie · 17th July 2009

I try avoid Beta 58. Its just not the same for me...sounds like something missing or just not as forward? SM7 Yes! Excellent for vocals if voice is a little bright. Very flat sounding and tough. Great on guitar amps but strange on bass or drums as seem a little light compared to D12. Good on toms if you have 3 of them.
Cheers
Jl

AnthonySpinali · 19th July 2009

Do you prefer the 58 to the 57 in all applications? Do you dislike the 57?

johnleckie · 26th July 2009

No. don't dislike 57 at all. Its slightly brighter and 'tighter' sounding to me which is good in some applications. The 58 is flatter and takes eq better and also can be used on vocals without the popping. Sometimes 57 on Marshall amp is to bright if amp sound is bright and using 58 can slightly reduce this. Its a subtle thing.
Cheers JL

Sen · 26th July 2009

hey John,
Have you tried Sm58 on snare..what do you think?.

Thanks very much

Shadow Boxer · 26th July 2009

Hi John,
I Think this is a great topic as lots of people own 58's and 57's i a guess it is easy to dissmiss them because they are so affordable and lots of people who have access to more expensive mics dont like to say they use them.

Are they often a go to mic for you on drums and guitars?
could you give an example of what other mics you might use them with on a kit or amp's

thanks heaps for your time

staticwhitesound · 27th July 2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnleckie

SM7 Yes! Excellent for vocals if voice is a little bright. Very flat sounding and tough. Great on guitar amps but strange on bass or drums as seem a little light compared to D12. Good on toms if you have 3 of them.
Cheers
Jl

Do you remove the foam from the sm7 or do you leave it on?
Thanks for your time, John!

johnleckie · 29th July 2009

For SM7 use foam for vocals but take it off for guitars, floor toms, conga etc
58/57: Yes. they are workhorse mics and rarely fail and often used as a lead test. I go for them to start on guitars and snare drums and you know you're always going to get a usable vocal sound from 58 rather than any other similar. Yes I've taken top off 58 and used on snare and really dont know difference from 57.
Cheers
JL

16th July 2009	#1
staticwhitesound Gear addict Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 449 Thread Starter	sm58, beta? other shure dynamics? Hi John, Because you are a pretty big fan of the sm58, I was wondering do you always use the standard sm58 or do you use the Beta 58 as well? If you do use the beta sometimes, for which application do you use which? Also, are you a fan of any of the other Shure dynamics? The sm7, for instance? Thanks, Pat __________________ The Silence Kit : Indie rock / Post punk band

17th July 2009	#2
johnleckie Gear nut Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 112	SM58 I try avoid Beta 58. Its just not the same for me...sounds like something missing or just not as forward? SM7 Yes! Excellent for vocals if voice is a little bright. Very flat sounding and tough. Great on guitar amps but strange on bass or drums as seem a little light compared to D12. Good on toms if you have 3 of them. Cheers Jl

19th July 2009	#3
AnthonySpinali Gear maniac Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: St. Louis Posts: 247	Do you prefer the 58 to the 57 in all applications? Do you dislike the 57? __________________ I'd be a richer man today if it weren't for physics. If I could levitate, I would sell lots of tickets. -"The Great Outdoors" Clutch Missile Silo Suite Page Fly From August Page

26th July 2009	#4
johnleckie Gear nut Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 112	SM58 No. don't dislike 57 at all. Its slightly brighter and 'tighter' sounding to me which is good in some applications. The 58 is flatter and takes eq better and also can be used on vocals without the popping. Sometimes 57 on Marshall amp is to bright if amp sound is bright and using 58 can slightly reduce this. Its a subtle thing. Cheers JL

26th July 2009	#5
Sen Gear maniac Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 231	hey John, Have you tried Sm58 on snare..what do you think?. Thanks very much __________________ Senad

26th July 2009	#6
Shadow Boxer Gear maniac Join Date: May 2009 Location: Melbourne Australia Posts: 199	Hi John, I Think this is a great topic as lots of people own 58's and 57's i a guess it is easy to dissmiss them because they are so affordable and lots of people who have access to more expensive mics dont like to say they use them. Are they often a go to mic for you on drums and guitars? could you give an example of what other mics you might use them with on a kit or amp's thanks heaps for your time

29th July 2009	#8
johnleckie Gear nut Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 112	SM58, beta? For SM7 use foam for vocals but take it off for guitars, floor toms, conga etc 58/57: Yes. they are workhorse mics and rarely fail and often used as a lead test. I go for them to start on guitars and snare drums and you know you're always going to get a usable vocal sound from 58 rather than any other similar. Yes I've taken top off 58 and used on snare and really dont know difference from 57. Cheers JL

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