Which came first? The chicken, or that flute on Sledgehammer?
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Which came first? The chicken, or that flute on Sledgehammer?

Silly question really...

Back in the 80's every time you rented an Emulator keyboard (For those that missed the 80's the Emulator was one of the first not so expensive sampling keyboards, that was actually portable and didn't have a computer the size of a large filing cabinet to go with it http://www.emulatorarchive.com/Sampl...1overview.html ) you always got a little box of floppy discs with sounds for it.. one of which was always the Andean Ethnic flute sample... It was so cool sounding, it was almost compulsory to mess around playing with it (and the explosion sample ) a little before getting on with what you really had to do....

.... So to me, this begs the question, was Peter Gabriel the first to get that Emulator sample onto a hit record? Or was that a flute played by someone on his session? Or even...did that Emulator sample originate from Peter's recording sessions?

Any idea?
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I'd always heard that that's a Fairlight shakuhachi sample.
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Thats easy for you to say!

shaku-what?

It's Japanese? Not Andean?
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Jules,

Not to burst any bubbles here but my memory of it was that it was from the Fairlight also.

Certainly it should be the first hit record with that sound stike stike

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Yes it was a Fairlight Shakuhachi sample. Peter recently signed a keyboard that Fairlight have had all the big artist who used it for hits sign. Each of them signed one of the keys. I think it was auctioned for charity. We still have an MFX2 with the CMI software and samples. The double bass sounds are awesome.
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Nice one thanks...

So its a Japanese bamboo flute, not an Andean goat heards pipe... I live and learn...
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Jules,

and all this time you were getting a kickback from Emulator for flogging those keys...



fuuck

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Jules,

and all this time you were getting a kickback from Emulator for flogging those keys...



fuuck

KK
The flute sample from Sledgehammer was originally from the Enulator II factory sound library. that disk had the Shakuhachi gesture, a Loon sound and a running stream. It has been used to death, nearly as much as the Fairlight Arri vox sample.

PG was on the the cover of "Music Technology" a short lived US version of a UK mag with the E2 in the shot with him.

Obviously due to his connection with Syco PG was one of the earliest Fairlight proponents. I would personally say that he was single handled the first artist to bring it's potential to the public with the ground breaking Security album-

The SouthBank interview of him captured my imagination entirely- to see him breaking TV's and blowing into old car exhaust pipes was quite an exciting thing for a young punk like me...


charles maynes
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We have an ARGUMENT!

Call the lawyers!

(thats another $50 kickback....!)
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Well, I may possibly stand corrected by Charles, but I will do some "digging in the dirt" and speak to the Fairlight boys to check..If I was wrong then I was wrrrrrnn....wrrrr(think Fonzie trying to say the word wrong) I do remember the steam sample from the Emu being gated behind a snare by one of the engineers I was taught by but that's another story.
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YES, I was wrrronnnggg. It was the Emulator 2. Charles if you are ever in Oz I owe you a lunch.
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Jules,

I am not going near this one. That fella has a rifle in his photo !!!!!



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Jules,

I am not going near this one. That fella has a rifle in his photo !!!!!



kk
Kevin,

I stand in awe of your achievements- I can assure you I do not point guns at people either... It is just sometimes my audio interests cross paths with dangerous situations...


here is me at the day job... http://youtube.com/watch?v=ocwBakeL3m0

cheers-

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Certainly it should be the first hit record with that sound

KK

And probably the last as well.

It was (and still is) so famous, it must have ruined that instrument sound on any other pop song or artist after that.

Huge.

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Yes, definite shakuhachi. Could not have said from which synth, though. Andean flute=panpipe? Ought to sound different, though the two are fairly similar in real-life construction.
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That's one hell of a day job, by the way. (the gun audio recording)
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At least he is wearing ear protection ,,,, atta boy charles.
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andean flutes are not flutes, they are called "zamponias" .. (just to clear up since this thread has become to technical"
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