...and also Red Rain?

Barish · 31st January 2007, 10:29 PM

Hi Kevin,

Could you also please tell us about the bass and drums treatment in "Red Rain" from the same album? What a fantastic sharp drums with delayed snares and big toms and crisp hihats and bass combi in that song. Awesome.

And how did you create that huge space at the back? There's so much going on all over the place in there but it doesn't sound so crowded at all. So spacious.

Damn I was listening to that album for some 102 thousand and 57th time since 1986 and I wanna put it back on again.

If you could remember the key equipment and the attitudes that led to mixing decisions from those sessions that would be great.

Thanks.

B,

Matej · 2nd February 2007, 07:59 AM

One of my favorite tracks ever. Any info on Red Rain and recording drums and bass in particular will totally make my day.

Thank you!!

Matej

Kevin Killen · 2nd February 2007, 02:43 PM

Gentlemen,

One of the things that really drives the song is the fact that Tony Levin doubled his bass part, which is panned at 10 & 2 o clock. It was recorded straight through a DI but Tony used a pick to get that attack. We may have used some compression also . Jerry Marotta is such a powerful drummer and he produces so much volume off the kit that it provides a level of excitement and energy in a track. The processing on the drums is derived by feeing various tracks into a combination of the AMS RMX 16 reverb, the Lexicon 224 and a EMT Plate , whose returns were eq'd to create that space.

The additional space in the background is coming from various "pads" that were created by combining guitars, pianos and prophet 5 keyboards to create a single part.

In general we wanted the mix to have a certain crispness without sounding harsh so we just experimented with making certain elements have that character.

Kevin

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31st January 2007, 10:29 PM	#1
Barish Lives for gear Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Glasgow, UK / Istanbul, TR Posts: 600	...and also Red Rain? Hi Kevin, Could you also please tell us about the bass and drums treatment in "Red Rain" from the same album? What a fantastic sharp drums with delayed snares and big toms and crisp hihats and bass combi in that song. Awesome. And how did you create that huge space at the back? There's so much going on all over the place in there but it doesn't sound so crowded at all. So spacious. Damn I was listening to that album for some 102 thousand and 57th time since 1986 and I wanna put it back on again. If you could remember the key equipment and the attitudes that led to mixing decisions from those sessions that would be great. Thanks. B,

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Matej Gear nut Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Slovenia Posts: 101	One of my favorite tracks ever. Any info on Red Rain and recording drums and bass in particular will totally make my day. Thank you!! Matej __________________ Matej Grginic aBox Audio Recording Studio

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2nd February 2007, 02:43 PM	#3
Kevin Killen engineer / producer / mixer Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 312	Gentlemen, One of the things that really drives the song is the fact that Tony Levin doubled his bass part, which is panned at 10 & 2 o clock. It was recorded straight through a DI but Tony used a pick to get that attack. We may have used some compression also . Jerry Marotta is such a powerful drummer and he produces so much volume off the kit that it provides a level of excitement and energy in a track. The processing on the drums is derived by feeing various tracks into a combination of the AMS RMX 16 reverb, the Lexicon 224 and a EMT Plate , whose returns were eq'd to create that space. The additional space in the background is coming from various "pads" that were created by combining guitars, pianos and prophet 5 keyboards to create a single part. In general we wanted the mix to have a certain crispness without sounding harsh so we just experimented with making certain elements have that character. Kevin