If you had no choice but to master with vst plugins only what vst will you choose ?

[theBackwardsman]

Comp:
Waves SSL
Waves API 2500
UAD Neve 33609

Finalize:
Timeworks compressor-x
Voxengo elephant

[cianthreetimes]

Great answer, dude that isn't Eric Valentine.

[brockorama]

That is funny but I was also hoping the backwardsman would chime in with his chain. Now eagerly awaiting Eric's response.

[Mho]

Originally Posted by theBackwardsman

Comp:
Waves SSL
Waves API 2500
UAD Neve 33609

Finalize:
Timeworks compressor-x
Voxengo elephant

Awesome man! Thanks for sharing.

[LinusWendel]

Hi Eric! I'd like to know this too. And if you can give us an example of one track you mixed using mostly plug-ins. Thanks!

[ev33]

Originally Posted by LinusWendel

Hi Eric! I'd like to know this too. And if you can give us an example of one track you mixed using mostly plug-ins. Thanks!

I don't use the vst plugin format but I suppose a lot of the choices are the same.

For mastering if I am EQing in the box i have had the best luck with:

Massenberg EQ
Waves Linear Phase EQ
PSP NEON
Q10 (for surgical stuff)

I haven't found any plugins I like for compression

For getting level I have tried a variety of things:

Sony Oxford Limiter
Slate FGX
letting things just clip

I have been struggling with that issue. I really don't like the sound of actually limiting the mix. I feel like it is just turning down the kick and snare in the mix. I am developing a plugin for achieving level without limiting. So far the results have been good. I have been using it to master some recent stuff. I just mastered an EP for Jason Hill from Louis XIV. He has a new project called "Vicky Cryer" that is really cool. Check out the song "Girls" it is an amazing mix (mixed by Matt Radosevich) and a really cool song. It is a good example of what this new level boosting mastering plugin can do as well.

EV

[nms]

Hey Eric. Quick question here touching on your thoughts on plugin compression - have you used The Glue? Just wondering if your dissatisfaction of plugin compression is inclusive of that. With the hpf, wet/dry mix and oversampling it's top of the pile IMO but I'm curious if you've tried it and still feel hardware is your must have.

[symmetricalSound]

Originally Posted by ev33

I have been struggling with that issue. I really don't like the sound of actually limiting the mix. I feel like it is just turning down the kick and snare in the mix. I am developing a plugin for achieving level without limiting. So far the results have been good. I have been using it to master some recent stuff. I just mastered an EP for Jason Hill from Louis XIV. He has a new project called "Vicky Cryer" that is really cool. Check out the song "Girls" it is an amazing mix (mixed by Matt Radosevich) and a really cool song. It is a good example of what this new level boosting mastering plugin can do as well.

EV

could you talk a little more about how this plugin works? unless it's secret that is...

thanks

[ev33]

Originally Posted by nms

Hey Eric. Quick question here touching on your thoughts on plugin compression - have you used The Glue? Just wondering if your dissatisfaction of plugin compression is inclusive of that. With the hpf, wet/dry mix and oversampling it's top of the pile IMO but I'm curious if you've tried it and still feel hardware is your must have.

I am pretty behind the curve when it comes to the latest and greatest with plugins. They definitely keep getting better and better but I just haven't had the time to check out all of the new ones and keep up. It seems like compression and harmonic coloration are the toughest nuts to crack digitally. Sounds like The Glue is starting to feel like a worthy replacement for the analog counterparts for you. I will definitely check it out. Thanks for the tip!!

EV

[ev33]

Originally Posted by symmetricalSound

could you talk a little more about how this plugin works? unless it's secret that is...

thanks

I am still trying to decide if I want to get into the insane business of selling plugins. If I do, this plug in would be the first one, so it is probably best for me to not go into to much detail. The other issue is that it is incredibly simple (which is part of why I think it works as well as it does) and would be very easy to replicate from a basic description. As much as I should say is that it allows one to establish a peak limit (lets say -.01dBfs) and increase the level without going over the limit while preserving as much information as possible in the loudest part of the dynamic range.

I like it because it keeps the loudness issue away from the dynamics. Usually my mixes are compressed the way I like when when I am done with them. I would rather not have the loudness process further alter the dynamics after I am done with the mix.

If I get it together to start selling it I'll be able to describe it in more detail.

EV

[ben_allison]

I would buy the plugin immediately.

[The Recordingist]

Originally Posted by ev33

If I get it together to start selling it I'll be able to describe it in more detail.

EV

I honestly cant wait for that to happen (the start selling part). This sounds really awsome, all the loudness and no loss of detail! what more do you want..