any familiar songs via ITB?

genericperson · 12th August 2004, 06:21 AM

Hello Mr. Pensado,

I saw your moderator bio...wow...looks like a who's who in pop music!

People are chiming in about how you work ITB in different capacities.

Would you be at liberty to tell us about any tracks or artists that have had a popular radio release that was done ITB?

ITB to me means all mixing is done inside the computer, with at most something like a couple analog outboards on the stereo buss. Protools 32 tracks out to a 9000 series SSL is something other than ITB in my humble vision of things.

I'd just be curious to get an idea of some ITB stuff that charted.

Thanks for any insights, and it's great to have you here!

jho · 12th August 2004, 03:22 PM

Inquiring minds wanna know...

**Jules** · 12th August 2004, 09:25 PM

ITB = "in the box" ie no mixing console - all in the computer

Dave might never work that way.... I dunno

Only he can answer!

genericperson · 13th August 2004, 01:51 AM

well, if there was a "control surface" that's fine. technically i think the new Icon is a control surface because it doesn't pass or calculate any audio.

ITB means all audio mixing and sound processing calculations are performed inside the DAW, with perhaps sending the 2-mix out to a stereo comp/eq at the most.

Dave Pensado · 13th August 2004, 05:55 AM

Kelly Clarkson "Miss Independent", Mel C "Never Be The Same Again", Ice Cube stuff on Players Club, Eternal "Angel of Mine"...there are a bunch more but I forgot. Those mixes didn't have one single piece of outboard gear! I usually mix 65% ITB, and 35% on the SSL. Whew, some of my first all ProTools mixes were truly awful. This was in '96. BeBe Winans, some Swedish chick named something Brown. But I got better, and Digi was gracious enuff to incorporate a bunch of my ideas.

mykla · 13th August 2004, 02:46 PM

Dave, it seems to me that what you mean by "ITB" is using plug-ins and summing the mix on the SSL. Not summing In-the-Box.

knekor · 17th August 2004, 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dave Pensado
some Swedish chick named something Brown.

Jennifer Brown, am I right?

How did you like her voice? I adore it, I think she has a lot of feeling in it.

Cheers

Boogle · 21st August 2004, 06:16 PM

any takers on this???

bforest4 · 19th September 2008, 08:43 AM

Would like to get an update on some of your recent mixes in the last few years that were done entirely in protools(no SSL for summing). It would be great to get some details: was it mixed entirely ITB with no additional outboard gear, or did you use analog outboard gear on inserts on individual tracks, or on the mix buss, or parallel compression buss, etc...

12th August 2004, 06:21 AM	#1
genericperson Lives for gear Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 521	any familiar songs via ITB? Hello Mr. Pensado, I saw your moderator bio...wow...looks like a who's who in pop music! People are chiming in about how you work ITB in different capacities. Would you be at liberty to tell us about any tracks or artists that have had a popular radio release that was done ITB? ITB to me means all mixing is done inside the computer, with at most something like a couple analog outboards on the stereo buss. Protools 32 tracks out to a 9000 series SSL is something other than ITB in my humble vision of things. I'd just be curious to get an idea of some ITB stuff that charted. Thanks for any insights, and it's great to have you here!

12th August 2004, 03:22 PM	#2
jho Lives for gear Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Lowcountry Posts: 1,588	Inquiring minds wanna know... __________________ Jeff H Charleston Sound

12th August 2004, 09:25 PM	#3
Jules Gearslutz.com admin Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: London, UK Posts: 14,191	ITB = "in the box" ie no mixing console - all in the computer Dave might never work that way.... I dunno Only he can answer! __________________ Jules Follow my GS picks here http://twitter.com/ProJules Add GS as a MySpace friend http://www.myspace.com/gearslutz Gearslutz on Facebook http://www.facebook.com/gearslutz Quote de jour: Now for the last Helios modules and I'm done! - nobtwiddler

13th August 2004, 05:55 AM	#5
Dave Pensado Guest Moderator - September 08 Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: los angeles Posts: 122	ITB Kelly Clarkson "Miss Independent", Mel C "Never Be The Same Again", Ice Cube stuff on Players Club, Eternal "Angel of Mine"...there are a bunch more but I forgot. Those mixes didn't have one single piece of outboard gear! I usually mix 65% ITB, and 35% on the SSL. Whew, some of my first all ProTools mixes were truly awful. This was in '96. BeBe Winans, some Swedish chick named something Brown. But I got better, and Digi was gracious enuff to incorporate a bunch of my ideas.

21st August 2004, 06:16 PM	#8
Boogle Gear maniac Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: London Posts: 228	any takers on this??? __________________ life's too good to waste!

13th August 2004, 01:51 AM	#4
genericperson Lives for gear Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 521	well, if there was a "control surface" that's fine. technically i think the new Icon is a control surface because it doesn't pass or calculate any audio. ITB means all audio mixing and sound processing calculations are performed inside the DAW, with perhaps sending the 2-mix out to a stereo comp/eq at the most.

13th August 2004, 02:46 PM	#6
mykla Gear nut Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Hollywood Posts: 89	Dave, it seems to me that what you mean by "ITB" is using plug-ins and summing the mix on the SSL. Not summing In-the-Box.

19th September 2008, 08:43 AM	#9
bforest4 Gear addict Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 438	ITB mixes for 2007 and 2008 Would like to get an update on some of your recent mixes in the last few years that were done entirely in protools(no SSL for summing). It would be great to get some details: was it mixed entirely ITB with no additional outboard gear, or did you use analog outboard gear on inserts on individual tracks, or on the mix buss, or parallel compression buss, etc...

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