Phase/Pan Effect on SP's "Cherub Rock" and "Rocket" Intro's

theblotted · 17th June 2009

hi Butch,

thanks again for doing this. Smashing Pumpkins' Siamese Dream changed my life, and is one of the main reasons why i'm doing what i am today. the first time the chords hit me on "Today", i started to hear music in a whole 'nother way.

can you share with us what effect you used in the intro's for the guitars on "Cherub Rock" and "Rocket"? it sounds like some type of panning thing for sure, but maybe some phase thing (that doesn't exactly sound like a phaser either).

i recall watching the Viewphoria video, and Billy mentioned it was a "vertical extrapolator", but obviously there's no such thing...

ButchVig · 18th June 2009

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Originally Posted by theblotted

hi Butch,

thanks again for doing this. Smashing Pumpkins' Siamese Dream changed my life, and is one of the main reasons why i'm doing what i am today. the first time the chords hit me on "Today", i started to hear music in a whole 'nother way.

can you share with us what effect you used in the intro's for the guitars on "Cherub Rock" and "Rocket"? it sounds like some type of panning thing for sure, but maybe some phase thing (that doesn't exactly sound like a phaser either).

i recall watching the Viewphoria video, and Billy mentioned it was a "vertical extrapolator", but obviously there's no such thing...

Jeff might remember...but I think it was an Electro-Harmonix pedal set to the slowest speed.

We did do a lot of actual tape flanging on the album,,,,like the solo in Cherub Rock.

jefft · 18th June 2009

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Originally Posted by theblotted

hi Butch,

thanks again for doing this. Smashing Pumpkins' Siamese Dream changed my life, and is one of the main reasons why i'm doing what i am today. the first time the chords hit me on "Today", i started to hear music in a whole 'nother way.

can you share with us what effect you used in the intro's for the guitars on "Cherub Rock" and "Rocket"? it sounds like some type of panning thing for sure, but maybe some phase thing (that doesn't exactly sound like a phaser either).

i recall watching the Viewphoria video, and Billy mentioned it was a "vertical extrapolator", but obviously there's no such thing...

On Rocket, Billy used a Ring Modulator...he actually used that quite a bit I recall. Cherub Rock, I'm not so sure. I do know that the FX on the solo was actual tape flanging between the 2 tape machines.

ButchVig · 18th June 2009

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Originally Posted by jefft

On Rocket, Billy used a Ring Modulator...he actually used that quite a bit I recall. Cherub Rock, I'm not so sure. I do know that the FX on the solo was actual tape flanging between the 2 tape machines.

That's right, it was a ring modulator!

The only part of Cherub Rock where we used tape flange was the solo...so the intro was probably also the rm...

Brad McGowan · 18th June 2009

Are you guys sure it wasn't the Mutron Bi-Phase?

Brad

darryl2112 · 18th June 2009

what about the infamous biphase? didn't you guys run everything through it

Doc_Rock · 19th June 2009

I read that Billy used a EHX microsyth for the out of this world distortions. Is it possible he used that on the intro of 'Rocket' to create such high harmonic content in the first guitar part?

ButchVig · 22nd June 2009

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Originally Posted by Brad McGowan

Are you guys sure it wasn't the Mutron Bi-Phase?

Brad

Yeah it coulda been the Bi-phase!

17th June 2009	#1
theblotted Lives for gear Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 2,304 Thread Starter	Phase/Pan Effect on SP's "Cherub Rock" and "Rocket" Intro's hi Butch, thanks again for doing this. Smashing Pumpkins' Siamese Dream changed my life, and is one of the main reasons why i'm doing what i am today. the first time the chords hit me on "Today", i started to hear music in a whole 'nother way. can you share with us what effect you used in the intro's for the guitars on "Cherub Rock" and "Rocket"? it sounds like some type of panning thing for sure, but maybe some phase thing (that doesn't exactly sound like a phaser either). i recall watching the Viewphoria video, and Billy mentioned it was a "vertical extrapolator", but obviously there's no such thing... __________________ "You can imagine where it goes from here." "He fixes the cable?"

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