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Old 16th June 2009   #1
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Editing!?

Hello Mr. Vig.

I was wondering what is the place of Editing in mayor productions? and if there's a system for it or not at all?

I'm working in an Album with many simultaneous guitar parts and in order to get some clarity, I have to really butcher the files...have you found your self in a similar situation, where the timing of the performers isn't exactly exact?



What's your philosophy when it comes to use digital technology for fixing "problems"?

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Hello Mr. Vig.

I was wondering what is the place of Editing in mayor productions? and if there's a system for it or not at all?

I'm working in an Album with many simultaneous guitar parts and in order to get some clarity, I have to really butcher the files...have you found your self in a similar situation, where the timing of the performers isn't exactly exact?



What's your philosophy when it comes to use digital technology for fixing "problems"?

Thank you so much for your teachings.................Joaquin.
The song will only be as good as the source material!
It helps to be working with a band that can really play their instruments!

When i first started producing, I had a "holy shit" moment when i learned how to edit tape. There was (and is) a definite art to it, and I fully embraced it.
With Pro Tools, or any other digital system, the editing has become so easy, my daughter could do it (not a bad idea, she's only 3 years old, but maybe I could get her editing some hi hats!)....the trick is to use the editing to make the groove sound better, not destroy it. So, as mentioned above, it helps to have a band that can play...and only use the editing as a tool to make it a little sweeter!
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Thank you so much Sr.

Indeed Musicianship is what it is.

What is that, that would destroy the groove and what can make it better?
How do you "work" with the Click/Grid?

Why is it a "problem" the easiness of digital editing Software?

Felicidades for your Daughter! I have a 9month Girl learning solfage!
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Thank you so much Sr.

Indeed Musicianship is what it is.

What is that, that would destroy the groove and what can make it better?
How do you "work" with the Click/Grid?

Why is it a "problem" the easiness of digital editing Software?

Felicidades for your Daughter! I have a 9month Girl learning solfage!
I like making tempo maps that I figure out during pre-pro, so if i use some sort of grid, we adjust it to the band's feel.

I also like letting the band "freestyle" in sections, especially fills, and then creating a new downbeat on the grid where the kick drum lands.

Billy Bush always looks at me with trepidation when I say the word "freestyle"...ha!
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Thank you one more time! I think is incredible and really appreciate your willingness to share with the Community!

Great idea to get Tempo maps from Pre-Production! I'll have to try it.

At what point in time, during Over Dubs or Post, do you focus on editing and tighten up Performance?

Is there some sort of Criteria when moving things around the Grid/beat? I'm thinking Samples, Groove, Swing!?

Is there any absolute "NO" when it comes to Edit?



Thank you again Sr. Your visit has been enlighten!
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This 'Freestyle' concept intrests me!

How would you go about that in in a live band tracking senario?

I mean, how do you feed a click to a drummer and drop it out for the 'freestyling' and then land it back on the beat?

Or am I misinterpreting this? It's a great idea though.

It would be cool to have a drum machine with acurate tap tempo and a fast kick-off response providing the click. You could stop it whenever for some freestyle and hit start on the next down beat. You would be sitting there jamming the click with the band while tracking, you could even speed it up some as the track progressed if you felt the band pushing it.
You get a more live feel and have it instantly gridded. Hmmmm.
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