Audio Damage Reverence reverb plugin...

[Crandall1]

A quick note to let you know that our Reverence plugin is now available for purchase from the Audio Damage store. Reverence is an algorithmic reverb loosely based on the Lexicon 200 hardware unit's plate simulator.

More information, samples, etc. on the product page in the AD store:

http://www.audiodamage.com/product_i...products_id=20

Reverence is available as a VST for Windows and a Universal Binary VST/AU for OSX, and is $39.00. There will never be an RTAS version, so you don't need to put a bunch of jumping yellow circles about that, but I'm more than happy to field other questions/comments. Here's a screenshot:

[dirtboy]

A time limited demo would be nice.
-RS

[sigmatibet]

these guys always craft legendary stuff! great.

[texdc]

Wow! I haven't heard it yet, but that's one slick GUI.

[andrewj]

Yep it definately looks nice!

Universal Binary means: I can use it on G4 G5 and the new Intel's right? Sorry I am not so into this new formats!

[Crandall1]

Originally Posted by andrewj

Universal Binary means: I can use it on G4 G5 and the new Intel's right? Sorry I am not so into this new formats!

Yes, that's correct. Almost all of our products work on both.

[apple4music]

hi Chris,

i am planning to buy this plug, seems good!
Is the sound quality comparable to UAD's Plate 140?

And is Reverence also inspired to the EMT 140 hardware?

[robi]

Originally Posted by apple4music

hi Chris,

i am planning to buy this plug, seems good!
Is the sound quality comparable to UAD's Plate 140?

And is Reverence also inspired to the EMT 140 hardware?

Looks rather like some 80s Lexicon digital, doesn't it? I couldn't find any demo but there has to be one, right?

best, robi

[Fredrik]

It says in the first post, loosly based on lexicon 200 plates, Thats it then.

[jayman]

From the two samples, I don't think it's as good as the UAD plate. It's a little hard to tell from a couple mp3 samples, but from what I can tell, it's not nearly as good.... IMO

[Fredrik]

Define good here man, I think a plugin that tries to emulate a lexicon 200 is meant to sound kind of lofi, early 80´s algo reverb style so the question is how much does it sound like that?

Instead a emt is the real deal you cant really compare them.

[andrewj]

At all I like the sound of that unit! Perhaps not the number one / Use anytime and anywhere reverb, but for a vintage lofi platesound you get a lot!

[Crandall1]

It's not really fair to compare this to the UAD EMT, for a number of reasons.

1) It is $39, while the UAD EMT is $149, and requires a not-inexpensive slice of hardware DSP.

2) They are modelling very different pieces of hardware. The UAD EMT is modelling a mechanical device ("analog" wouldn't be a word that is out of place) while ours models a digital device that isn't modelling anything at all. It would be exactly like complaining that the Lexicon 200 doesn't sound anything like the UAD EMT, even though it predates it by over 20 years.

As for the demo issue, we don't do demos. We offer a 100% no-questions-asked money back guarantee, though, which is intrinsically the same thing.

[AdamJay]

hey, Chris, can i get an NFR?



hahahahaha.
i love this reverb. great for 808 snares, amongst thousands of other sounds. but especially an 808 snare!

and you can't beat the money back guarantee.
for those who want a Demo, think of it as a $39 down payment that you can get back if you don't dig it. That's your demo. I had to buy an iLok to demo the URS plug-ins... and it cost me, hmmm around $39.

and frankly, if you ain't willing to front $39 that you could BACK, you shouldn't be demo'ing plug-ins you can't afford ANYWAY. chumps!

[tommymakestapes]

This one is on the list. Thank jebus for FXpansion vst - Rtas

[robi]

Originally Posted by AdamJay

hey, Chris, can i get an NFR?



hahahahaha.
i love this reverb. great for 808 snares, amongst thousands of other sounds. but especially an 808 snare!

and you can't beat the money back guarantee.
for those who want a Demo, think of it as a $39 down payment that you can get back if you don't dig it. That's your demo. I had to buy an iLok to demo the URS plug-ins... and it cost me, hmmm around $39.

and frankly, if you ain't willing to front $39 that you could BACK, you shouldn't be demo'ing plug-ins you can't afford ANYWAY. chumps!

It's not a question of "am I able to afford it" but "do I want to afford it". Anyway, time to "demo" it

[mig27]

Not only that I respect the company philosophy of audio damage.
This plugin rocks for what it is.
Period.


Michael

[Analogeezer]

I'll chime in here....

I bought the Reverence plug because I had bought Audio Damage's Phaser plugin and thought it was way cool.

The Reverence is pretty specific, yeah it sounds a lot like the plate from the Lexi 200 but that sort of 80's lo fi thing is perfect, that's what it is supposed to do.

The market is awash in sparkling convolution verbs, CPU hog verbs with 50 controls, etc. so AD is smart in not trying to make just another verb with a billion controls that sucks up all your CPU.

thumbsup

FWIW I also have the UAD-1 Plate 140 and while it does sound better, THAT'S BECAUSED IT'S SUPPOSED TO...it's an emulation of a real plate whereas the AD Reverence is an emulation of a primitive 1980's digital reverb. I mean one sounded better than the other one back in the day, so it's no suprise that plugins based on these two sound different

The thing is, variety is a cool thing, and the Reverence adds something pretty cool that most other software verbs don't...the other plugin verbs are either too busy trying to sound like a cathedral or offer you so many choices in control that you spend more time setting up your verb than you do mixing the track.

The Reverence is like the Plate 140 in that it's simple, and doesn't try to be more than the old school hardware was.

I'd also point out these two play very well together, I took a simple track (so I could hear the verbs better), I had two Plate 140's going, one on a vocal, the other on acoustic. I replaced the Plate 140 on the vox with the Reverence plug and it sounded really cool, two Plate 140's were too much, but having the difference between the two made each track sit a little better.

Getting back to the product, keep in mind that:

1. It's $39, if you are worried about whether or not it's worth the money, well then maybe you should find a used Midiverb for your $39.

Demo? Geez buy the thing I guarantee you'll find a use for it on something, like the UA stuff it's very vibey and different from most plugs

2. AD is doing some great stuff, offbeat plugs at very low prices that take the sting out of "what the hell, let's check this out"

I'm mainly a hardware F/X kinda guy but so far I'm really liking the AD stuff (check out the phaser it's way cool) and the specialized UAD stuff (Plate 140, Roland Space Echo).

I wish the Reverence had all the algos, not just the plate but I think the plate is probably the most useful so I can see why they went with that.

You'd have to appreciate the funky grungo thing the 200 did to appreciate the Reverence though, but I'm really glad they made it.

Analogeezer

[Analogeezer]

Originally Posted by AdamJay

hey, Chris, can i get an NFR?



hahahahaha.
i love this reverb. great for 808 snares, amongst thousands of other sounds. but especially an 808 snare!

and you can't beat the money back guarantee.
for those who want a Demo, think of it as a $39 down payment that you can get back if you don't dig it. That's your demo. I had to buy an iLok to demo the URS plug-ins... and it cost me, hmmm around $39.

and frankly, if you ain't willing to front $39 that you could BACK, you shouldn't be demo'ing plug-ins you can't afford ANYWAY. chumps!

Yeah, what he said

Analogeezer

[yeloocproducer]

I have a mutron bi-phase so I didn't need their phaser... I thought it sounded a little "plastic-y"... but I'm really digging Reverence. Used it on a mix yesterday for some big 80s hip hop drums and it rocked the house! Awesome... it beats CSR, TL space, etc. for the lo-fi thing.

Maybe we can upgrade to more algos (room, inverse, etc.) down the road? One can only hope...

[Fibes]

I am a huge fan of these freaks and thier work.

I had a mac meltdown as some of you may know and i had to mix on my Dual 800 for an EP so i bought Reverence and upgraded to Dischord 2 'cause i needed some low wattage plugs on the old machine while the G5 was in the shop.

ten minutes after i got the idea to buy 'em i was up and running, digging the nostalgic vibe from Reverence and had the snare killing it. I went to my old standby settings (kinda) and felt at home. This verb does that thing as well as i could have hoped and is worth owning.

Dischord 2 on the other hand sounds great but lost me for a bit compared to versions 1 and 1.5. To me 1.5 had the vibe without the hassle and i'm sure 2 will grow on me.

BTW in DP when Dischord 2 gets opened on the fly it makes a horrible noise burst.

I'll do more free beta for ya' Chris and still buy the plugs at full price 'cause you freaks Rawk. Just lemmee know.

[yeloocproducer]

They said they're working on the room algos... but no promises b/c it's taking some serious reverse engineering to nail it.

[andrewj]

Man wouldn't that be nice!

A good replication of an old Reverbstandard? Does not matter if it is lofi today! It was HighEnd once!!!

Useful today, I am sure!!!

[Silver Sonya]

Audio Damage is a smart and stylish company with its own identity and that alone deserves support. I will follow them wherever they go.

--- Chad

[cl516]

whoa, i just blew up my Reverence big time.

just playing around with arturia minimoogV,
straight into Reverence in Logic,
can't remember what i did really but i think the high end
was too much from the Filter FM i was doing in the synth,
it was kind of doing a weird 'feedback' thing, i don't really get it.

[Crandall1]

That "feedback" happens on the real thing, too. We could have preempted it, but we talk about our reasoning for leaving it there in the manual. In a nutshell, just because something _shouldn't_ do something doesn't mean that someone might not find a creative use for it. We're not trying to provide any rules for our products that you have to use them by. (Our Ronin plugin is a good example of this. You can easily get in to some nasty territory because you can patch it however you want, to the point of severe danger, such as patching filters back in on themselves.)

If you didn't read the manual, getting the feedback "feature" is pretty easy. Just knock the SIZE down to minimum and the "TIME" to maximum, then give the plug a little squirt of sound (anything will do.) It'll make some odd noises, and the nature of the feedback is dependent on the various filter and rolloff settings. Back when I was making records in a "real studio" instead of in my home studio, we discovered this hidden feature on the 200 hardware (as most everyone that owns one has, I'm sure) and key-gated it off a high-hat for a cool syncopated noise track. Remembering my own experience, I talked Adam (my partner in Audio Damage) in to leaving it there. The easiest way to avoid it is to not set "SIZE" to zero, a setting at which it is otherwise useless, anyways. The reverb algorithm works best when SIZE is somewhere between 25 and 60.

[raal]

Originally Posted by Crandall1

There will never be an RTAS version

them's fightin' words...

[cl516]

Thanks Chris, about the feedback thing.
Yep I didn't read the manual.

What you described is exactly what happened
as I was mucking about. Very cool plug.

[Crandall1]

Originally Posted by raal

them's fightin' words...

Heh. I'm sure. Our professional experience with Digidesign led us to our current status as player haters. (Or is it the game we hate? I can never keep that straight.) If you're curious, here's what happened:

We released our very first product as RTAS, in addition to VST. (AU didn't exist at that time.) We sold a few, but hardly enough to make the headache of porting worthwhile. What I'm about to say is the god's-honest truth. Our developer contact at Digi wrote and asked how RTAS sales were going. We said, and I'm quoting from our reply to him: "Well, sales aren't what we hoped. We're not entirely sure it was worth the effort." He said "I'm sorry to hear that. I've cancelled your developer license. Let me know if you're interested in working with us in the future."

(The quote is directly from his email to us.)

In short, we're not interested in dealing with a company that schizophrenic. We're too small to hang our hat on something that might get pulled out from under us at any moment, based upon the whim of some moody cubicle farmer. So, no, there will never be an RTAS version of any of our products ever again, if I have anything to do with it.

Our plugs work fine with the FXpansion and AudioEase wrappers, for what it's worth.

[cl516]

wow, that's f-ed up man.


can u imagine jules doing that on here? haha.
one negative comment and then...
'ooh sorry to hear that. i've cancelled your account. lemme know if you're interested in posting on here again.'
that would be so crazy.