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Hardware NAMM: M-audio Axiom AIR 25/49/61 USB/MIDI keyboard



Axiom AIR 25
  • 25 expressive synth-action keys with aftertouch
  • 16 great-feeling trigger pads respond to pressure and velocity
  • Roll button aids in creating realistic drum parts
  • Assignable controls offer front-panel programming:
  • 8 rotary encoder knobs plus 1 long-throw 70mm fader
  • 3 banks of pad and knob assignments with color-coded illumination
  • HyperControl automatically maps controllers to popular software
  • Drum Pad Learn feature and Identify button
  • Dedicated transport and navigation buttons make recording easy
  • Octave/Transpose buttons access the entire note range, in any key
  • Assignable pitch bend and modulation performance wheels
  • Selectable velocity curves to match any playing style
  • 128 memory locations for saving custom settings
  • Functional design provides backlit LCD plus under-keyboard cable routing
  • Includes AVID Pro Tools® Express and Ignite™ by AIR



Axiom AIR 49
  • 49 expressive synth-action keys with aftertouch
  • 12 trigger pads respond to pressure and velocity
  • Roll button aids in creating realistic drum parts
  • Assignable controls offer front-panel programming:
  • 8 rotary encoder knobs; 9 long-throw 70mm faders; 9 buttons
  • 3 banks of pad and controller assignments with color-coded illumination
  • HyperControl automatically maps controllers to popular software
  • Drum Pad Learn feature and Identify button
  • Dedicated transport and navigation buttons make recording easy
  • Octave/Transpose buttons access the entire note range, in any key
  • Assignable pitch bend and modulation performance wheels
  • Selectable velocity curves to match any playing style
  • 128 memory locations for saving custom settings
  • Functional design provides backlit LCD plus under-keyboard cable routing
  • Includes AVID Pro Tools® Express and Ignite™ by AIR




Axiom AIR 61
  • 61 TruTouch® semi-weighted piano-style keys with aftertouch
  • 12 trigger pads respond to pressure and velocity
  • Roll button aids in creating realistic drum parts
  • Assignable controls offer front-panel programming:
  • 8 rotary encoder knobs; 9 long-throw 70mm faders; 9 buttons
  • 3 banks of pad and controller assignments with color-coded illumination
  • HyperControl automatically maps controllers to popular software
  • Drum Pad Learn feature and Identify button
  • Dedicated transport and navigation buttons make recording easy
  • Octave/Transpose buttons access the entire note range, in any key
  • Assignable pitch bend and modulation performance wheels
  • Selectable velocity curves to match any playing style
  • 128 memory locations for saving custom settings
  • Functional design provides backlit LCD plus under-keyboard cable routing
  • Includes AVID Pro Tools® Express and Ignite™ by AIR

Pricing and Availability: TBC

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Oh, design-wise they start to look like something you could have on stage. That and Mainstage and you are in business (workstations bye bye.)

PS:I just wish they would make a 71-key at some point...
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I thought these came out last year.
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Very excited about these

Did anybody here get a chance to check out the keyboard action on the 61 key one or even the other ones? The music world so desperately needs a midi controller with a decent keyboard action and coherent software routing for buttons knobs and pads.... Maybe these are it!
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I thought these came out last year.
That was the black MINI air controller.
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It sure ain't pretty
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Did anybody here get a chance to check out the keyboard action on the 61 key one or even the other ones?
Firstly welcome to the forum.

They will be "officially" revealed tomorrow at NAMM, so the chances anyone has gotten their hands on them yet is slim.

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It sure ain't pretty
I have not seen these live yet but I beg to differ. Someone might think they are real keyboards, pretty clever industrial design me thinks.
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As m-audio keyboard's go these don't look too bad ??
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Perhaps it's just me then.....Maybe it's because of the way the display looks.
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Perhaps it's just me then.....Maybe it's because of the way the display looks


I'm not saying that I think they look fantastic either
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This is the first M-Audio Midi controller series to feature those types of keys, I believe. Is that what they call "waterfall" keys?

I have a few older M-Audio midi controllers, and I'm not crazy about the keyboard feel, I hope that these are a significant improvement.
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I thought these came out last year.
They were announced last year for sure but I believe they release as of NAMM.

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Did anybody here get a chance to check out the keyboard action on the 61 key one or even the other ones? The music world so desperately needs a midi controller with a decent keyboard action and coherent software routing for buttons knobs and pads.... Maybe these are it!
+1! Still looking for a "professional" feeling midi controller. Best keyboard feel wise I've played are the novation SLmkii but don't need all the extras. Maybe the new Rolland controller might be the answer, though I prefer synth action vs fully weighted piano keys.

Sad that the world is filled with such cheap feeling keyboards with poor action and velocity sensitivity and poor kids/beginners are buying them not knowing any better!
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Does the Learn function allow us to assign and save Chord's? If so I'm buying ASAP! providing the action is good.
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Finally!

I don't think the Apple design squad is going to feel threatened by this object, but I liked the keybed on the now-rumored unsupported Axiom Pros [which I think look cooler, not that everyone will agree] and will give it a fair chance to strut its stuff.

It's supposed to come with 250 sounds from AIR Instrument Expansion Pack for PT [Velvet, Strike, Structure, Hybrid, that stuff]. For the price, they should have made it 2500, that is, if they want to ward off competition from the new Novation controllers which are half the price -- though who knows what the keybeds feel like and you have to factor in the price of the iPad the Novations are designed to work with!

+1 on the 71 keys wish ... although I suppose these days most people are just making beats. But if you're not, it's awful nice having a few extra bass notes.

At least there are some new choices. . .
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interesting. looks as though avid is using these as gate into the PT world.
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This is the first M-Audio Midi controller series to feature those types of keys, I believe. Is that what they call "waterfall" keys?
Actually no, waterfall keys are what you find on a real Hammond organ where the edge of the key is rounded to allow of those palm slides without ripping up your hands. Nord uses (used to use?) them on the smaller Electro organ models and may still.

Any key with a hard, straight line like these are not waterfall...just clarifying FWIW.

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interesting. looks as though avid is using these as gate into the PT world.
Avid no longer own Maudio.
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So, 4x4 pads on the 25 key model, and then 4x3 on the bigger ones
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So, 4x4 pads on the 25 key model, and then 4x3 on the bigger ones
Except this I realy like the design.
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i hope these are better than the original version ... i have one leaning against the wall waiting for the trash collector to pickup as it died, well documented issue with no fix but buying a new Board you have to install ... i will never buy another M-Audio keyboard due to this fact. i may call them after NAMM and express my dissatisfaction ...

and they missed the mark by not having faders similar to the AKAI MAX49.

a friend brought his over the other day for me to check out ... the MAX49 lighted faders are cool but the fader resolution is maybe 127 (128) increments ... you need 1024 minimum to mix in 10th of a DB increments. unusable to mix ... maybe riding an FX fader but not really ..

i am really getting tired of planned obsolescence ... i do not buy shoes that wear out even if you do not wear them ... i am trying to use my old iphone as an alarm clock on the road but it is around 6 years old now and the screen is just disintegrating ... wtf !!!

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Are these Pro Tools compatible, like the old Axiom Pro?
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Are these Pro Tools compatible, like the old Axiom Pro?
It's a pretty good bet they are. Although they broke up, the companies have a lot of history. And AIR still supplies many of the effects and instruments that are stock with PT.

To make this clearer:

Avid (Pro Tools) used to own M-Audio which made a lot of interfaces and keyboard controllers for PT and A.I.R. which makes software like sounds and effects. They have gone their separate ways from an ownership standpoint, but they are still interconnected in culture and some products.
  • A.I.R. and M-Audio teamed up for the keyboard controllers we're talking about in this thread.
  • PT and A.I.R. team up for stock effects and instruments as well as the optional Instrument Expansion Pack.
  • PT and M-Audio teamed up to make interfaces and controllers when PT was still a closed system up to about a year ago. There are no current collaborations between them that I am aware of.
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Except this I realy like the design.
yep this is the one I want
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It sure ain't pretty
Agree. The faux chrome overlay looks kinda chintzy; they completely changed the shell from this:

New at Summer NAMM: M-Audio Axiom AIR Controller Keyboards & Ignite Software | BH inDepth

On looks alone it's an ugly duckling, but if it feels good and makes life easier in PT, it's a swan.

I'd price it a little less to make it a no-brainer as opposed to a tough decision, but for some strange reason M-Audio didn't Lear Jet me to their marketing summit to offer my esteemed opinion.
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comparison with axiom pro?

does anyone know the difference between this and the axiom pro?
i mean, they both have hypercontrol, 9 faders, the air has 4 more pads, yeah, but the axiom pro has a full matrix display, and the knobs aren't in an awkward position on the other side of the screen... The keybed is the same so... what justifies a 200$ premium over the existing axiom pro? 4 trigger pads???
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WAKE ME UP when they stop spitting cheap plastic with more knobs then quality keys...
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does anyone know the difference between this and the axiom pro?
i mean, they both have hypercontrol, 9 faders, the air has 4 more pads, yeah, but the axiom pro has a full matrix display, and the knobs aren't in an awkward position on the other side of the screen... The keybed is the same so... what justifies a 200$ premium over the existing axiom pro? 4 trigger pads???
The Axiom Pro 61 was the best M Audio ever made. I will never sell it.
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Actually no, waterfall keys are what you find on a real Hammond organ where the edge of the key is rounded to allow of those palm slides without ripping up your hands. Nord uses (used to use?) them on the smaller Electro organ models and may still.

Any key with a hard, straight line like these are not waterfall...just clarifying FWIW.

Thanks for the clarification. It sounds like waterfall keys are mostly an organ thing.

These keys on the new M-Audio controllers still look different though from the usual, don't they? It's hard for me to explain it good, but the keys don't go inwards on the bottom like the other models of M-Audio which I have. That's why I thought that it might be waterfall keys.
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