Sky-Audio VERADE Studio Monitors

[evilaci]

Hell yeah, Jürgen Goooooo
One question, Dennis, why passive?
All the best!

[lordward]

Hi,

Well, for a start it keeps the price down
I'll ask Jürgen if there is an ultimate other reason.

[evilaci]

Ah thanks, so easy reason.
I was just curious!
You Dennis, have a great website and really an impressive discography.
Do you use this speakers with the Adam Sub in your studio or is "she" gone....

PS: The Harrison EQ is sold.... :-)

[lordward]

I've stopped using the Adam sub now. The prototype has put it to shame.
Glad you like the web page!
Sorry I couldn't get the Harrison EQ

DW

[ViXP]

Hello, Dennis! Your new site is very cool and interesting.
Where can we find the measurements, frequency response graphics of those new monitors?

[GnS]

Wooohooo, german engineering

[lordward]

Originally Posted by ViXP

Hello, Dennis! Your new site is very cool and interesting.
Where can we find the measurements, frequency response graphics of those new monitors?

All coming up! Everything is still in development but I will all come asap.

DW

[JP__]

Originally Posted by lordward

All coming up! Everything is still in development but I will all come asap.

DW

Please keep yourselves out of this embarrassing publication of sugarcoated, meaningless frequency response measurements.
Only a few people might handle this right or can judge the overall quality of a loudspeaker by a simple frequency plot.
I think that´s the main reason why most speaker manufacturers hold back with the publishing of such data.
The correct interpretation of complete measurement protocols is a knowing science for itself. Most will only get confused by this. For most people it is much more useful to evaluate a speaker with its own trained ears in its own room. Looking at a frequency plot of a loudspeaker without judging all other parameters is absolutely senseless.
A flat frequency response is the most easiest exercise for a active loudspeaker system (with some embellishment in the graph here and there...) Such a system may be still worse than anything else on the market.

Please be cautious with publishing and do not be assessed due to wrong interpretation. Your speakers are surely to good for that...

[lordward]

Originally Posted by JP__

Please keep yourselves out of this embarrassing publication of sugarcoated, meaningless frequency response measurements.
Only a few people might handle this right or can judge the overall quality of a loudspeaker by a simple frequency plot.
I think that´s the main reason why most speaker manufacturers hold back with the publishing of such data.
The correct interpretation of complete measurement protocols is a knowing science for itself. Most will only get confused by this. For most people it is much more useful to evaluate a speaker with its own trained ears in its own room. Looking at a frequency plot of a loudspeaker without judging all other parameters is absolutely senseless.
A flat frequency response is the most easiest exercise for a active loudspeaker system (with some embellishment in the graph here and there...) Such a system may be still worse than anything else on the market.

Please be cautious with publishing and do not be assessed due to wrong interpretation. Your speakers are surely to good for that...

Wow! Thank you... This is basically what Jürgen said as well. I too have a pair of monitors from a certain company and the charts show them to be relatively flat in response. Doing my own measurements show the same. But my EARS tell me that they sound like crap

Jürgen will be offering to come around to studios to have listening/comparing sessions. I think he'll start with Germany. If enough people write him and show interest it might make sense to meet at a given studio with a few persons to have a listen for yourself.

Regarding the question asking "why passive" this is what Jürgen told me:

"for me, passive just sounds better...and I've not heard an active system for around 2500 Euro/pair that sounded good in the way I like to hear it. There are some good ones but they start at around twice the price and up".

I concur, I would rather be able to choose my amplification and have been so happy with my Carver poweramp for years. And, this might not be an argument for everyone, I hated it when I had to travel with my Powered monitors in 2 flight cases which were always a problem to transport. As a mater of fact I'm not really quite sure what the advantage is for monitors to be self-powered. I know that a few will argue that mono block poweramps have better stereo images and separation but with passive you still have the option to use that if you wish. You can also start small and upgrade

[JP__]

Originally Posted by lordward

As a mater of fact I'm not really quite sure what the advantage is for monitors to be self-powered.

You are able to use a separate amp for every way of the ls. In theory there are some advances:
Better adaptation to the drivers, the avoid of losses of the passive crossover, the crossover can be build with steeper filters to circumvent problems of the drivers, the use of EQs and other linearisation measures...

In practice this is often not necessary or advantageous, especially if you use high quality components and skilled workmanship. Most of the active speakers in the lower and middle price class uses very cheap electronics and amps (everyone cares about his converters like crazy and send this high quality stream through some poor electronics in his loudspeakers ...).

I always preferred passive system too ....
Good active ones are surely possible to build, but have to be much more expensive than comparable passive ones (incl amp) when build with the same amount of passion and skills...

You can also start small and upgrade

Yes, this one advantage too. Power Amps can make differences on its own...

[lordward]

Originally Posted by JP__

Yes, this one advantage too. Power Amps can make differences on its own...

Indeed!