ReLab LX480 Complete is DONE!!

[arnew]

...and when it gets older than "dated" its "Vintage" - and everybody thinks its cool, and its gets back into the game, cycle closed :-)

[leonardo777]

time for audio examples and comparisons with the real and what can the software do in addition to the old, dated, vintage, classic, but highly loved hardware????

common bring it on those guys who have the real box and the software bring uns some listening test, we want some fun

[drBill]

Originally Posted by leonardo777

time for audio examples and comparisons with the real and what can the software do in addition to the old, dated, vintage, classic, but highly loved hardware????

Ditto. I want to hear the Old hardware up against the New plugin. Us OLD and discriminating users of 480's want to hear it's dated & classic sounds side by side.

If it's bit for bit perfect as advertised clips will be a huge selling point. Should come very close to nulling.

I'm hoping for the best, and cautiously optimistic.

[leonardo777]

bring us a 15 minutes video or longer, we want sound,
although we heard 1000 of songs with this rev-algos.

How do the very very small chamber settings sound and how do the out of this world alien plates with modulation larger than life sound?

[leonardo777]

And why did Prince for is most popular hit song purple rain use the EMT 250 and not the Lex 480L why?

[drBill]

Originally Posted by leonardo777

And why did Prince for is most popular hit song purple rain use the EMT 250 and not the Lex 480L why?

OMG - are you SERIOUS?!?!?!? Maybe the 480 really is just dated (in the perjorative - not the historical sense) and not the classic it's touted to be....

[Animus]

Originally Posted by leonardo777

And why did Prince for is most popular hit song purple rain use the EMT 250 and not the Lex 480L why?

Probably for the same reason people might use a API pre over a Neve pre, depends on what you want to achieve.

[TonyBelmont]

Originally Posted by drBill

Ditto. I want to hear the Old hardware up against the New plugin. Us OLD and discriminating users of 480's want to hear it's dated & classic sounds side by side.

If it's bit for bit perfect as advertised clips will be a huge selling point. Should come very close to nulling.

I'm hoping for the best, and cautiously optimistic.

Because of the randomization of the tail, you cannot get the same 480L to null on consecutive passes. So, you may want to consider other ways of testing.

[Warp69]

There're some ways to test :

#1 - The Wander parameter controls the randomization - if you set this parameter to zero you will still have modulation, but it's not randomized. Now you 'just' need to time the testing so the modulation phase is matched. This is very time consuming and rather boring.

#2 - Set both Spin and Wander to zero to deactivate the modulation. Then change Size - this will initialize the algorithms on the original (and the plugin) and you can now perform the test. The problem with this procedure is that the algorithms doesn't sound like normal (with modulation). There's an actually bug in the original 4.1 regarding the Random Hall algorithm which have excessive ringing in this state. You can deactivate this 'bug' in the plugin in the setup page, but for this test it has to be activated.

You should choose the Digital (Noise) I/O mode if you have connected the original unit via AES/EBU.

[Category 5]

Originally Posted by leonardo777

And why did Prince for is most popular hit song purple rain use the EMT 250 and not the Lex 480L why?

The EMT 250 is in the same league in terms of sound quality IMO, just different. I terms of flexibility, the EMT doesn't compare. Budget unlimited studios would surely like to have both.

[Beatworld]

Originally Posted by Warp69

- Set both Spin and Wander to zero

Would someone please advise where are the Spin and Wander controls located ? I can't find them.

Thanks in advance.

[mpod]

Originally Posted by Beatworld

Would someone please advise where are the Spin and Wander controls located ? I can't find them.

Thanks in advance.

?? If you are about to test it with real LX480 you should already know that they are loaceted at MOD section..??

[Beatworld]

Originally Posted by mpod

?? If you are about to test it with real LX480 you should already know that they are loaceted at MOD section..??

No I am not about to test it with a real 480.
I mean just in the ReLab LX480

[bmanic]

Originally Posted by leonardo777

And why did Prince for is most popular hit song purple rain use the EMT 250 and not the Lex 480L why?

Makes such a huge difference. That song would have absolutely sucked if he'd used the 480. Luckily he used the 250, so the song is great!

[seancostello]

Originally Posted by leonardo777

And why did Prince for is most popular hit song purple rain use the EMT 250 and not the Lex 480L why?

"Purple Rain" - released in 1984
Lexicon 480L - first released in 1986

[zeljkom]

Maybe Prince has some kind of time capsule.

[Beatworld]

Originally Posted by mpod

? they are located at MOD section..??

Ah ha !

I see - but only when loading presets from the Random Hall, Ambience and Post Ambience preset folders.

Starting from ALL the other algo type preset folders there is no Spin and Wander in the MOD section and that is what had me confused.

Thanks

[Beatworld]

Originally Posted by seancostello

"Purple Rain" - released in 1984
Lexicon 480L - first released in 1986

"1999" - released 1982

[Aiyn Zahav]

Had the lite version some time ago, sold it, conclusion? really want to buy it again

[Jeezo]

why did you sold it ? !! lol is there a real big sonic diff bewteen this and the lite ?

[rectifried]

Originally Posted by Jeezo

why did you sold it ? !! lol is there a real big sonic diff bewteen this and the lite ?

+1. What is the diff

[kedbear]

Originally Posted by rectifried

+1. What is the diff

The new version has all the algorithms from the 480l compared with just the random hall from the lite, and also an updated and much better hardware matched random hall compared to the early lite versions. Could it be much more different than that?

[Froombosch]

Congratulations Martin! It is good to see your dedication in this product! I'll be checking it soon!

[grooveminister]

Originally Posted by seancostello

"Purple Rain" - released in 1984
Lexicon 480L - first released in 1986

Originally Posted by Beatworld

"1999" - released 1982

This guy is totally nuts!
He did release "1999" in 1982, but wasn´t visionary enough to use 1986´s 480L just two years before actual release!

[Aiyn Zahav]

Originally Posted by Jeezo

why did you sold it ? !! lol is there a real big sonic diff bewteen this and the lite ?

I don't know why I sold it, well actually I can try to remember, at the time I was not really good as using reverb, and for some reason even though I felt LX480lite to be the nicest sounding reverb I'd ever heard and I was so happy to finally find one I liked, I just thought I needed some other things pretty badly like some good EQ and Compressors (which I did really).

This was months ago. Since then I've demoed a lot of reverbs and yes I have found some I like, SSL X-verb, Arts Acoustic, LXP, but I really need to get this LX480 again before anything else I think, it's just beautiful and makes my mixes sound great (I use a lot of reverb for trance of course)

I'd say the closest candidate for me is the MPX because it's so cheap and I remember it sounding quite similar the LX480, but not as rich or dense. I dunno, its so hard when your demos run out and you have to go on memory.

[vicnest]

Originally Posted by Warp69

There're some ways to test :
There's an actually bug in the original 4.1 regarding the Random Hall algorithm which have excessive ringing in this state. You can deactivate this 'bug' in the plugin in the setup page, but for this test it has to be activated.

So that's the resonance in the software means. Thanks!
That's sometime useful for weaker sound sources (if controlled).

[Solidtrax]

Originally Posted by Aiyn Zahav

I don't know why I sold it, well actually I can try to remember, at the time I was not really good as using reverb, and for some reason even though I felt LX480lite to be the nicest sounding reverb I'd ever heard and I was so happy to finally find one I liked, I just thought I needed some other things pretty badly like some good EQ and Compressors (which I did really).

This was months ago. Since then I've demoed a lot of reverbs and yes I have found some I like, SSL X-verb, Arts Acoustic, LXP, but I really need to get this LX480 again before anything else I think, it's just beautiful and makes my mixes sound great (I use a lot of reverb for trance of course)

I'd say the closest candidate for me is the MPX because it's so cheap and I remember it sounding quite similar the LX480, but not as rich or dense. I dunno, its so hard when your demos run out and you have to go on memory.

Hey Aiyn, ValhallaVintageVerb can sound pretty similar to MPX but at the same time sound more refined/smooth and it is capable of more different reverb sounds. Together with ValhallaRoom you have an amazing palette of fantastic sounding reverb algorithms! For $50 each, I can't think of another reverb with a better price/quality ratio!

I have been testing LX480 and I can't deny that it's an amazing sounding reverb, and I would buy it without thinking twice if I could get it for half the price, but for now, I'm going to satisfy my reverb needs with ValhallaRoom and ValhallaVintageVerb, and I'm not feeling bad about it! :-)

[Nowak]

Don't ya love living in the world now.... we all expect everything to cost $10.

$399 for this reverb is a steal, it's ludicrous to suggest that it's too expensive. (This is not made at Foxconn by 10 year olds)

Stef.

[claesbjo]

Originally Posted by Nowak

Don't ya love living in the world now.... we all expect everything to cost $10.

$399 for this reverb is a steal, it's ludicrous to suggest that it's too expensive. (This is not made at Foxconn by 10 year olds)

Stef.

I absolutely agree. This is something really good that directly(parameter by parameter) replaces a very expensive studio hardware tool. Even if the cheaper competitors sound just as "good", the workflow of the LX480 is something that a professional engineer who´s been working with the HW can get into immediately and get great results instantly instead of learning new workflows. Therefore, it´s a professional tool with a professional price.

I´m not that engineer, but I love the sound of it. Just been digging in to it for a couple of days, and it is really different for me anyway. It just sits effortlessly in the mix.

Going to buy, hope to be able to raise the funds before the introductory offer ends..

[Solidtrax]

Originally Posted by Nowak

Don't ya love living in the world now.... we all expect everything to cost $10.

$399 for this reverb is a steal, it's ludicrous to suggest that it's too expensive. (This is not made at Foxconn by 10 year olds)

Stef.

Not sure if your reply was directed at me, but just in case it is, I can safely say I have never said everything should be $10.

I just added up the total amount of money I have spend on plugins in 2012 and it's a little over $850. Not a lot compared to some other hotshots but hey, I don't buy something for fun and it is still mostly a hobby, funds are limited!