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Last year a friend of mine asked me, if I could build him a simple but effective low cut filter in the 500 format. The low cut filter on his favorite pre is too high for his taste. So I built him a prototype, a 24dB/oct low cut filter with 3 cutoff frequencies (40, 65, 85Hz) and he was really happy with it. A 24dB/oct low cut filter is a really effective one. For example, if you set the cutoff to 40Hz, it reduces a 10Hz rumble with 48dB.
When I built him the final version, I changed the cheap 3-position rotary switch of the prototype to an expensive 6-position grayhill switch and added three more frequencies. So the 6 cutoff frequencies are now: 20, 30, 40, 65, 85 and 130Hz.

I built six units.So I have four units left to sell. If there is more interest, I will make a small run of this. I sell these units now for 238,-eur including german tax (19%). I try to make it as cheap as possible, cause I know, this is not an exciting sound maker, it's more a little helper. But maybe it's interesting for some of you.

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Wow, but personally i would not waste a complete 500 rack for a bit of low cut....
What does it cost?
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Oh, now I see the price....sorry bout dat...
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Nice I know some will find that useful>
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Fantastic product idea!

The lowcut is one of the most important tools in the studio!

I love the lowcut on the BAE 1084. I don't know why it feels so special, though.

I would totally buy one of your units, except I am saving up for a few other things right now and don't have the dough.

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I would definitely buy it! It is exactly what I need... but I suppose with the cost of shipping to Canada plus customs fee and -eur conversion it gets a bit expensive. Great tool from the looks of it though.
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I'm definitely interested...I have a pair of ShinyBox Guillotines and they are fantastic. I agree with Silver Sonya, filters are so important.

Their units are 12db/octave so this would be different.

Can you estimate cost (minus German tax) shipped to US?
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thank you for your interest.

shipment:
to germany: 7,-eur
to EU: 17,-eur
to USA and Canada: 36,-eur

I have to include german tax (19%) if I sell inside germany and outside the EU.
I only could sell without german tax, inside the EU and if you have a valid VAT-ID.

I know, shipment oversea is not cheap and the exchange dollar-eur is not good. sorry

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Very interesting...
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i've wanted something like this for years! i can't afford it now, but please keep making them!

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Nice product..!..While you are at it ( if you decide to continue to make these, make a Hi cut also)..Would love to have a decent pair...Good luck..
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I think you could make a killing with these if you added a hi cut as recommended above, and an attenuator...that would make it an ideal companion for the 512C and other preamps that don't have an output level control...
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'Ve always thought a cool high pass/ low pass box would be nice to have.

If I could add:
Low pass
Selectable slope
Increased damping for chebeshev response (or however you spell it!)
A +/- 20db gain stage or there abouts
More frequecy points
Discrete circuitry

That'd be a pretty killer box! thumbs
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I think you could make a killing with these if you added a hi cut as recommended above, and an attenuator...that would make it an ideal companion for the 512C and other preamps that don't have an output level control...
great idea. would help out many pres without output knobs.
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Hardware

thank you for your suggestions.

when I started this module, I worked a lot on different filter versions. As I told before, I tried to keep this as simple as possible to keep the price low.

at the same time I started a second filter module. some of your suggestions are in there, but not all, sorry :-).
the last weeks, I had to wait for parts. I wanted to show it up at january, when I have at least 10 units. but yesterday the missing parts arrived surprisingly and it looks like it is better to do it earlier. I can show you the thing on monday when I'm back at work again. the first two units are working fine, so I can say it is ready.

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Awesome! Keep us posted.
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Wow...Is a nice tool...but the price is high. A Lindell Passive EQ is 300 euro.
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ok, I started a new thread for my second filter module. it is a combination of a 12dB/dB lowcut +boost and a 6 or 12dB/oct highcut.

some of your suggestions are in there, but not the idea with the pad. I will think on it.
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sorry, I have to correct my post about the included german tax. I was wrong.

There is no german tax outside the EU.

prices
germany: 238,-eur
EU (with VAT): 200,-
outside EU: 200,-

my fault. until now I only had to deal within the EU.
but I try to learn.

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ok,
If there is enough interest for an added attenuator, I could start a second version.
I think most interesting for you is to push the Pre a bit more and to attenuate the signal afterwords. So attenuation is more important than additional gain.
If you push your Pre really hard, the attenuation must be passive and must be before any active stage. Otherwise the first active stage would distort. The easiest way is a two position Pad with two different values. For example -10db and -20db.
The more complex way is a second rotary switch with 6 positions, but this would rise the price in total about 50,-. And I think it is not needed to have 6db steps. but maybe I'm wrong.

what do you think?

sorry for the delay. had to built some units the last weeks.

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This looks great and I love the idea of 24 d/oct. That really separates it from other offerings. Oh, and I instantly love anything stepped or switched! Great job.

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Lookin' good. Stepped and switches for recalling +1
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Just a quick heads-up to say that Bereich-03 service is really good.
Had a small issue whit my LowCut, things got done really fast!

Thanks for that Michael.

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