Mytek stereo 192 DSD DAC

[DSD_Mastering]

I have 2 of the Mastering versions in my studio and they sound great!

[Goshen]

Originally Posted by DSD_Mastering

I have 2 of the Mastering versions in my studio and they sound great!

Wow!!! Thank you for your input. How would you rate it against EMM labs in pcm mode? Or even the DAC section of an ULN-8? If it's close to an EMM labs or better than the DAC of an ULN-8, I will get one this week.

Jude

[Reptil]

Is it a step up from the 8x192 in sound? How big a step?

[DSD_Mastering]

Originally Posted by Goshen

Wow!!! Thank you for your input. How would you rate it against EMM labs in pcm mode? Or even the DAC section of an ULN-8? If it's close to an EMM labs or better than the DAC of an ULN-8, I will get one this week.

Jude

In PCM mode, it's equal to the EMM, especially in the bass. My recollection of the ULN-8 was too long ago to make any meaningful comparisons.

[Dzoing]

What about the sharp versus gentle filter option (in PCM mode)? Are they analog filters (like the ones in DSD mode)? Can you hear any difference?

I guess the gentle slope would provide a better impulse response (linear phase and no ringing) but there may remain some (little) aliasing / imaging.

Sometime I'm dreaming of a 192kHz AD/DA with bessel analog filtering cutting off gently at say -3dB @25kHz... Does no designer build such a converter?

[ABielewicz_Mytek]

Originally Posted by Dzoing

What about the sharp versus gentle filter option (in PCM mode)? Are they analog filters (like the ones in DSD mode)? Can you hear any difference?

I guess the gentle slope would provide a better impulse response (linear phase and no ringing) but there may remain some (little) aliasing / imaging.

Sometime I'm dreaming of a 192kHz AD/DA with bessel analog filtering cutting off gently at say -3dB @25kHz... Does no designer build such a converter?

Hi Dzoing,

There are several filtering options for both PCM and DSD. The filters affect how upper “out-of-audio” band frequencies are rolled off.

PCM
Sharp – Brickwall cutoff at ½ sampling rate.
Slow - Gentle cutoff with some aliasing.

DSD
Cutoff frequency – 50, 60, or 70 kilohertz cut off.
Gentle Filter to reduce high frequency noise.

Some opinions:
"Played around with the PCM sharp and slow filters, Sharp seems to bring my system to life."
Mytek Stereo 192 - Page 24

"For filtering you can choose between sharp and soft and indeed that's how the audible effect is perceived, but the effect in this case isn't very large (...)"
hifi-advice.com - Mytek stereo 192-DSD DAC review

As always the best way is to hear it on your own.

If you need any further assistance please let me know.

All the best
Adam Bielewicz

[Dzoing]

Originally Posted by ABielewicz_Mytek

PCM
Sharp – Brickwall cutoff at ½ sampling rate.
Slow - Gentle cutoff with some aliasing.

Hi Adam, thx for the input. Is 'Slow - Gentle' analog or digital filtering?

[ABielewicz_Mytek]

Originally Posted by Dzoing

Hi Adam, thx for the input. Is 'Slow - Gentle' analog or digital filtering?

It's digital filtering set in the converter, specifically in its registers.

[Rev. Eslam]

Originally Posted by Reptil

Is it a step up from the 8x192 in sound? How big a step?

I hope so, since I am currently in the market for a "mastering" converter.

Incidentally, how come I have never seen you in the forum, despite the fact that I have been perusing Gearslutz for a couple of hours or more each day and the fact that you have posted over twenty thousand posts (you must surely be the record holder here?).


And to Mr. Bielewicz: WELCOME TO THE GEARSLUTZ FORUM SIR!

[Reptil]

lol Gearslutz is a big place

[Dzoing]

Originally Posted by ABielewicz_Mytek

It's digital filtering set in the converter, specifically in its registers.

Thanks! At the price, this DA might be a great winner...

I'd like to know some more about the impulse response: is there some pre-ringging with the fast filtering? Is there some ringging at all with the slow one?