Slate Pro Audio Introduces THE RAVEN MTX Multi-Touch Production System

[Kenny Gioia]

Originally Posted by Mixerman

Kenny Gioia, Ladies and Gents. He did a brilliant job performing the part of Cotton on The Daily Adventures of Mixerman Audiobook.

Worry not, Kenny. It's me.

Exactly.

Enjoy,

Mixerman

[mattiasnyc]

Originally Posted by Dave.R

<buzzer> wrong!

thank you for playing

next...

Sorry, I didn't catch that you were being ironic. You must be a hipster.

[Dave.R]

Originally Posted by mattiasnyc

You must be a hipster.

now you know it

[jjdpro]

Most of us already work with 4 monitors for 16 hour days in the studio. Heck, the average office worker stares into a computer screen for 7 hours per dasy.. The, go home and turn on their LED/LCD Tv..

Originally Posted by muziekschuur

Unimpressed. Try working with a light in your face 8 hours... The screen should be there but not all the time.... This LOOKS good... But it ISN't good...

[jjdpro]

So do I..True. It still has that analoge sound..

Originally Posted by thesandbox

Who is selling their PARIS system...not me. I still get asked about it by Grammy and Dove winning producers.

[digitalson]

I must say steve ...u are the king...just when I'm in the market for a large control for the daw....have u used this with nuendo and reason? .....
nuendo is our main daw among many others...can it control the studio section in n4 or n5...and reason

[Greg Curtis]

Steven, congrats on thus awesome piece of engineering bravado! I felt like Jean Luc Picard, or Capt Kirk trying it out at the show. Bravo.

Do you have the raw dimensions available? Sorry if you already posted them. Long thread.

Greg




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[sakamoto]

Originally Posted by Greg Curtis

Steven, congrats on thus awesome piece of engineering bravado! I felt like Jean Luc Picard, or Capt Kirk trying it out at the show.

you mean like this

[dxavier]

I don't own any of Steve's products, but I have heard several and I must admit, he looks to me, like a guy who creates products he would want to use and doesn't worry about whether they are conventional or not. Really impressed with his Fox preamp versatility and now this desk, plus all the love I heard for his plugs. I look forward to see what else he brings forth....

[Demor]

Originally Posted by Kenny Gioia

...not noticing a whole lot of people saying "this isn't as good as my ICON".....

This isn't as good as my Icon..............Ha.........


This product is not for me but I can see it can benefit alot of people, that is, if the price is right. Steve, can't you give us a ballpark figure?

[FLYINGJAY]

Touch screens are the future.
This is a new windows 8 tablet with a Intel i5 in it.

http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=Jrv46...%3DJrv46eJ5j24

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[stoplaughing]

So something I'm unclear about. When the pro tools edit/mix windows are up on the screen is it mirroring a computer screen or does the Raven act as a sole monitor where you can also use the internet/photoshop etc ?

[Greg Curtis]

Originally Posted by sakamoto

you mean like this

rofl!

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[RKrizman]

Originally Posted by Steven Slate

The primary sound path is not compromised. Put your speakers on stands behind the desk or on the desk's optional nearfield speaker holders that attach to its back. No different than any other control surface or console in that regard.

And again, due to the angle of the desk, the console reflection issues that happen with a flat desk are eliminated. When you crouch your head over a flat desk to say, adjust an eq, the comb filtering makes it very difficult to make proper decisions. This RAVEN fixes this.

Say what you like about other aspects, but I think Steven is right on the money in the above paragraphs. The steeper angle should effectively eliminate early reflections from the console, something which can easily be tested with a hand mirror. (you know you've got one left over from the old days)

-R

[RKrizman]

Originally Posted by Mixerman

Well, I sat at it, thinking for sure it would be an ergonomic nightmare. I'd have to mix at it for a day to come to a fully proper conclusion, but all I can tell you is, I could reach everything with ease. I could operate it like a console. I currently spend at least $200 a month on neck and shoulder work, an expense I didn't have when I spent the majority of my time mixing on LFC consoles. So, arguments about ergonomic nightmares don't tend to sway me. My mixing life already IS an ergonomic nightmare. I've got nowhere to go but up.

If you don't have any faders available and are doing everything with some version of a mouse, you could lower those massage bills significantly by getting some sort of fader setup that gets you in motion a little more and takes the stress off the one repetitive thing you do. Even faders for volume, pan, solo and mute can make a huge difference. I struggled for years with this and finally constructed a system, measured to the inch, that gets me out of chiropractic hell. Plus I've worked in a full MIDI keyboard.

-R

[njfour]

I just got home from the NRG Studios Halloween party, for which Slate Pro Audio was one of the sponsors. They had a Raven MTX set up on display in one room, and it was really impressive. I thought that given the size it would look grainy, but it doesn't at all - everything looked great. And ergonomically, it reminded me very much of a drafting table, which I'm guessing isn't a coincidence.

[chk23]

Originally Posted by Antigua

I think I'd like to see a combination of the X1 and the MTX. Real faders are a must. Also I can see myself snapping off iLoks, thumb drives and iPhones on a regular basis....

exactly. That was my first thought: Looks very nice, but without real faders it's merely a very expensive (but admittedly very desirable looking) toy...

[mattiasnyc]

Originally Posted by RKrizman

Say what you like about other aspects, but I think Steven is right on the money in the above paragraphs. The steeper angle should effectively eliminate early reflections from the console, something which can easily be tested with a hand mirror. (you know you've got one left over from the old days)

-R

Except perhaps from surrounds then, right?

[Cory_Carson]

Hey Steve,

I never got the chance to say congrats on the product....it took me sometime to wrap my head around it but it makes more sense to me now. I will definitely want to try it out before i judge it.
I am still deciding what gear to put up in my facility so this can definitely be an option.
would love for it to be around 15-20k.
what would be cool is if the mtx mixer had its own dsp and would take on the characteristics of VCC..
anyway,,great product !
hope i dont get called a "slate employee" again...lol..... i guess i would just hav to get the raven on an employee discount..:D :D

[Jon Con]

Being a nerd, is there any chance of seeing the back of the console or howeverything connects to the MTX?? I'm interested to see how everything connects to the desk.

[RKrizman]

Originally Posted by mattiasnyc

Except perhaps from surrounds then, right?

I suppose that depends on how it's all set up. Seems like it would be easy to find all the appropriate angles. In general, surrounds will give you early reflections off all sorts of things that the mains don't, including your computer screens, racks, CR glass, whatever. No matter what your hardware, you need to take an intelligent approach to positioning everything, the determining factors of which are easily look-up-able.

Also, although early reflections do matter somewhat, they aren't the deal breaker that everyone makes them out to be, at least to acousticians I've hired and verified by my own perceptions.

-R

[Realtugs]

Originally Posted by RKrizman

I suppose that depends on how it's all set up. Seems like it would be easy to find all the appropriate angles. In general, surrounds will give you early reflections off all sorts of things that the mains don't, including your computer screens, racks, CR glass, whatever. No matter what your hardware, you need to take an intelligent approach to positioning everything, the determining factors of which are easily look-up-able.

Also, although early reflections do matter somewhat, they aren't the deal breaker that everyone makes them out to be, at least to acousticians I've hired and verified by my own perceptions.

-R

Word.

[jhamrick714]

This thread is so large, so sorry if I missed this (no I am not reading every post)... Looking at the videos I don't think my iPhone 5 is compatible with the docking station?

[Mgr]

I think the concept is nice, but i'm wondering how the people that are riding faders for long amount of times 1 hour, 2 hours, more... (mixing live, ridding levels to disk) will manage to have theyre fingers (four or more) constantly placed on a screen and not having pain after 4-5 minutes.

Another concern is the the moisture of the fingers on the screen, makes it difficult to make smooth movements, i know that for fact, event though its not the screen of the raven, i'm using an ipad and i dont really like the way it feels after a certain time...

[Steven Slate]

Originally Posted by jhamrick714

This thread is so large, so sorry if I missed this (no I am not reading every post)... Looking at the videos I don't think my iPhone 5 is compatible with the docking station?

Yup, iphone 5 is compatible.

Originally Posted by Mgr

I think the concept is nice, but i'm wondering how the people that are riding faders for long amount of times 1 hour, 2 hours, more... (mixing live, ridding levels to disk) will manage to have theyre fingers (four or more) constantly placed on a screen and not having pain after 4-5 minutes.

I don't think any type of workflow includes 2 hours on any faders, but with the RAVEN you have the faders at the bottom and you keep a straight wrist and simply 'twitch' your fingers to move faders effortlessly. It's very comfortable and safe. We've done long sessions with no problems. Again, it's a matter of using a different workflow to produce the same results.

Originally Posted by Mgr

Another concern is the the moisture of the fingers on the screen, makes it difficult to make smooth movements, i know that for fact, event though its not the screen of the raven, i'm using an ipad and i dont really like the way it feels after a certain time...

Not true with our proprietary NANOGLIDE surface! Over twice as smooth as an iPAD.

Cheers,
Steven

[Mgr]

Originally Posted by Steven Slate

I don't think any type of workflow includes 2 hours on any faders, but with the RAVEN you have the faders at the bottom and you keep a straight wrist and simply 'twitch' your fingers to move faders effortlessly. It's very comfortable and safe. We've done long sessions with no problems. Again, it's a matter of using a different workflow to produce the same results.

You should, they are some, where you need to ride faders for long times, 45 minutes , one hour, or more, think live, theater, opera. Having something solid with a shape under your finger is a must in this situations.

Originally Posted by Steven Slate

Not true with our proprietary NANOGLIDE surface! Over twice as smooth as an iPAD.

Cheers,
Steven

That's really nice, look forward to touch a NANOGLIDE surface and see how it feels then !

[Steven Slate]

Originally Posted by Mgr

You should, they are some, where you need to ride faders for long times, 45 minutes , one hour, or more, think live, theater, opera. Having something solid with a shape under your finger is a must in this situations.



That's really nice, look forward to touch a NANOGLIDE surface and see how it feels then !

The problem is that NO ONE here has ever experienced the RAVEN in a long session so I don't think it's possible to conclude how it will feel. Over the past year we've gone through a painstaking process of making sure that this system will be a great solution for professionals. Again, the slickness of using ultra responsive faders that move almost with your body's energy becomes addictive. Long sessions are quick and effortless, as the system provides everything you need to have a lightening fast and effective workflow.

We're working on our first production run and will have information over the next few weeks as to where you can personally try a RAVEN MTX.

Cheers,
Steven

[Bob Olhsson]

Originally Posted by Steven Slate

The problem is that NO ONE here has ever experienced the RAVEN in a long session so I don't think it's possible to conclude how it will feel...

This is so important. I've never been able to tell much about the value of any recording tool without using it for a month or so. Hopefully these will be available for rent.

[FLYINGJAY]

Originally Posted by jhamrick714

This thread is so large, so sorry if I missed this (no I am not reading every post)... Looking at the videos I don't think my iPhone 5 is compatible with the docking station?

Based on what I saw its not.

I noticed that as well,I'm in the process of getting the iPhone 5 or galaxy s3.

The more I think about it,the I realize how big the market is for the raven.

I don't know anyone that mix on large desk anymore.honestly,even stems come back to the daw for mixing.

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[Mgr]

Originally Posted by Steven Slate

The problem is that NO ONE here has ever experienced the RAVEN in a long session so I don't think it's possible to conclude how it will feel. Over the past year we've gone through a painstaking process of making sure that this system will be a great solution for professionals. Again, the slickness of using ultra responsive faders that move almost with your body's energy becomes addictive. Long sessions are quick and effortless, as the system provides everything you need to have a lightening fast and effective workflow.

Yes its true, no one except you and your team, thats why we ask questions, I don't see that as a problem. Criticism and curiosity shouldn't been take negatively IMO.

When available ill definitely check your Raven .