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Old 9th October 2012   #1
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True Keys: Pianos

Hi guys !

Here is a new product, set to be released in about 1 month.

Looks and sounds like a must-have !

I highly recommend checking out the audio demos on the website.

http://soundcloud.com/vilabs/sets/true-keys-pianos-demos
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Interesting.

I don't see mention of a price anywhere. Do you happen to know pricing?
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Unfortunately not yet.

But it seems it's going to be up to others piano collections out there.
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I like the American Grand, it has a lovely tone that's quite suitable for slow material. Unfortunately, as it is true with many libraries, I can hear some pumping of the compressor that was probably used when recording the samples.
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I like the American Grand, it has a lovely tone that's quite suitable for slow material. Unfortunately, as it is true with many libraries, I can hear some pumping of the compressor that was probably used when recording the samples.
Actually, the samples have been recorded without compression. Just got the info from the developer.

It seems that it's the way YouTube and SoundCloud treat the audio stream.

Word about the street price is $349.99.

Considering that you get 3 beautiful sounding pianos for that price, with extensive mics positions, it's fair enough.

No to mention that it features "true sampled sympathetic resonance". Which may be the first virtual piano instrument to get this.
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Actually, the samples have been recorded without compression. Just got the info from the developer.

It seems that it's the way YouTube and SoundCloud treat the audio stream.
This may be so, in which case I'd urge the developer to find a better way of showcasing his product.

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Word about the street price is $349.99.

Considering that you get 3 beautiful sounding pianos for that price, with extensive mics positions, it's fair enough.
There are some very decent piano libraries that cost around 100 bucks per instrument. I would suggest splitting this library into 3 separate instruments and offering each at about 100 dollars. This way, I'm sure sales would increase considerably. Personally, I'd only be interested in the American Grand (a Steinway, I suppose).
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There are some very decent piano libraries that cost around 100 bucks per instrument. I would suggest splitting this library into 3 separate instruments and offering each at about 100 dollars. This way, I'm sure sales would increase considerably. Personally, I'd only be interested in the American Grand (a Steinway, I suppose), since I don't much like the sound of Faziolis or Bösendorfers (presumably the other two instruments).
I agree with you.

Offering a bundle and separate products would be a great thing to do.

You're almost right :
  • American is Steinway
  • German is Bechstein
  • Italian is Fazioli
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You're almost right :
  • American is Steinway
  • German is Bechstein
  • Italian is Fazioli
Yes, of course, Bösendorfer is an Austrian company.
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I don't hang out here much, but saw a link to this thread and thought I'd pop in.
For what it's worth, I'm a Nashville studio musician (keys) with a pretty decent "track" record and I was fortunate enough to get a Beta copy of this instrument. I honestly believe this is now the one to beat. I've been using it on sessions, and getting a lot of notice from producers, engineers and other players. Definitely worth checking out. I also posted about it in the Keyboard Magazine forum and told about what I though was a fairly telling comment. On a session, I began to play this thing and a musician across from me looked up and said "What is that? It's not Ivory.... I've got Ivory and it doesn't sound like that"!
I apologize if my posting this here is considered spam. It's not my intention and I have no financial interest in this at all. But I own a bunch of "fake" pianos. Lots of them. All the ones we all know and then some. This one blows them all away IMHO.
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I don't hang out here much, but saw a link to this thread and thought I'd pop in.
For what it's worth, I'm a Nashville studio musician (keys) with a pretty decent "track" record and I was fortunate enough to get a Beta copy of this instrument. I honestly believe this is now the one to beat. I've been using it on sessions, and getting a lot of notice from producers, engineers and other players. Definitely worth checking out. I also posted about it in the Keyboard Magazine forum and told about what I though was a fairly telling comment. On a session, I began to play this thing and a musician across from me looked up and said "What is that? It's not Ivory.... I've got Ivory and it doesn't sound like that"!
I apologize if my posting this here is considered spam. It's not my intention and I have no financial interest in this at all. But I own a bunch of "fake" pianos. Lots of them. All the ones we all know and then some. This one blows them all away IMHO.
Thanks for the info man !

Glad to know it's a stunning package.

Is there somewhere we can hear tracks you recorded with it ?
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[QUOTE=K-Slash
Is there somewhere we can hear tracks you recorded with it ?[/QUOTE]

Not yet, but it will show up pretty soon. I have not done any of the demos for ViLabs, but I used it yesterday on 2 tracks for Lauren Alaina (American Idol season something), and recently on tracks for upcoming records by Country artists Randy Hauser, & Joe Nichols. Most of my record dates are in studios with pretty awesome real pianos so it is unlikely that I'll get to use it much by itself, but I have been using it for more "pop" leaning records, and I am using it a lot on songwriter and new artist demos as well as in my own writing as strictly a "piano".
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Not yet, but it will show up pretty soon. I have not done any of the demos for ViLabs, but I used it yesterday on 2 tracks for Lauren Alaina (American Idol season something), and recently on tracks for upcoming records by Country artists Randy Hauser, & Joe Nichols. Most of my record dates are in studios with pretty awesome real pianos so it is unlikely that I'll get to use it much by itself, but I have been using it for more "pop" leaning records, and I am using it a lot on songwriter and new artist demos as well as in my own writing as strictly a "piano".
Alright, will have to check that package .

This deserves a "released" news.
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Alright, will have to check that package .

This deserves a "released" news.
I'm not sure how to do that here
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But I own a bunch of "fake" pianos. Lots of them. All the ones we all know and then some. This one blows them all away IMHO.
Interesting.... I'd sure be curious to hear some singer songwriter/pop stuff with this in the future.

Which of the three pianos are you leaning on mostly?
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Interesting.... I'd sure be curious to hear some singer songwriter/pop stuff with this in the future.

Which of the three pianos are you leaning on mostly?
I usually choose depending on the song being recorded. I tend to use the American the most, and typically treat it with different EQs/compressors/Verbs etc (pretty much like you would when recording a real piano). Often though if it's a ballad or more sensitive piece, I'll load the German. Haven't done much at all with the Italian yet. I also own a number of other libraries and will reach for one of them when I want a distinctly "Upright" sound, or a heavily "gacked" obviously "not real" piano sound. Once in a while, a song will call for the smaller canvas of "Piano in Blue" or "Emotional Piano" or the abrasive edge of "Struck Grand", but when I want it to sound like a big guy, TrueKeys is my go to. I loaded up Ivory II and Forefront's TruePianos today, just to refresh the comparison, and there is none.
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64gbs? oh well, time to have a piano clearout to make room
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Yes, of course, Bösendorfer is an Austrian company.
And Yamaha is? .....everyone together?
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