ARC 2 Advanced Room Correction System is now available from IK Multimedia

[Lights]

If you look at my Room EQ Wizard measurements above, you'll see that the room is incredibly flat and the bass isn't sucked out at all--the bass in fact is flat but almost like a low shelf plus maybe 1dB. So perhaps you just are more used to more bass when you mix than an actual "flat room."

That said, I still think you're defeating ARC2 when you don't measure accurately. If you want more bass, you should use those original measurements you took and build a specific EQ curve that represents the more bass you want so you aren't surprised by something your sub is adding that you didn't expect.

[doom64]

Originally Posted by Lights

If you look at my Room EQ Wizard measurements above, you'll see that the room is incredibly flat and the bass isn't sucked out at all--the bass in fact is flat but almost like a low shelf plus maybe 1dB. So perhaps you just are more used to more bass when you mix than an actual "flat room."

That said, I still think you're defeating ARC2 when you don't measure accurately. If you want more bass, you should use those original measurements you took and build a specific EQ curve that represents the more bass you want so you aren't surprised by something your sub is adding that you didn't expect.

I'll take what you said under advisement. The next plan is to run REW but I need to read the instructions so I don't screw something up.

Comparing the first measurement vs. the second the only difference on the frequency graph is in the region I was doing a virtual low shelf boost on anyway. So I'd rather have a false reading that I am comfortable with than a "truly flat" one that I would overcompensate for. The old "it's more important to know how your speakers translate" trick.

This was measuring my home speakers. Now they sound more in line with the big expensive speakers at the studio that also have ARC 2 applied.

By the way big shout out to the guy who came up with and shared the laser pointer idea. It cut measurement time in half vs. using a meter stick.

Plastic cable ties + laser pointer flush-mounted to ARC microphone + hold laser button in while moving mic in place = awesomeness.

[baslotto]

As I suggested before I wouldn't try mixing anything without a good reference song played throught the ARC2 as I'm mixing. At least for the first few months.

[Lights]

Well I just finished a co-mastering project on my second EP. I worked with a mastering engineer in the UK and we traded tracks back and forth. In the end, he did 24bit tonal balancing and I did the final touches with RX2 to fix a few things I didn't catch in the mix and Ozone 5 (just a bit of EQ and maximizing). And with ARC2 on board I finally felt confident in what I did and what I asked the ME to do. And the mixes translated.

[DR Music]

Originally Posted by baslotto

As I suggested before I wouldn't try mixing anything without a good reference song played throught the ARC2 as I'm mixing. At least for the first few months.

Bingo!!!

[doom64]

Originally Posted by DR Music

Bingo!!!

Agreed. I use reference mixes regardless!

[DR Music]

I have to apologize to the ARC2 system, it's great. I recently purchased two sets of "Mixing Headphones" 702's and DT880's". Well turns out it sounds pretty darn close to what the Headphones sound like.......... That's a good thing.

[Jeezo]

Guyz i don't know if it was told or not but a lot of add on winamp and others let you use any vst in it !!! i'm using it since ARC 1

you see it here used during my new home studio set up ...listening to R kelly to judge
As you can see it's used with winamp ....

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[musikmaschine]

Originally Posted by doom64

Agreed. I use reference mixes regardless!

Same, best way to get you ears adjusted.

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[musikmaschine]

Originally Posted by DR Music

I have to apologize to the ARC2 system, it's great. I recently purchased two sets of "Mixing Headphones" 702's and DT880's". Well turns out it sounds pretty darn close to what the Headphones sound like.......... That's a good thing.

:thumbup:So what's your verdict on the krk ergo?

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[musikmaschine]

Originally Posted by Jeezo

Guyz i don't know if it was told or not but a lot of add on winamp and others let you use any vst in it !!! i'm using it since ARC 1

you see it here used during my new home studio set up ...listening to R kelly to judge
As you can see it's used with winamp ....

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Yeah I use a lot. Which other media players can load vst plugins? Anything 64bit with asio?

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[doom64]

Originally Posted by musikmaschine

Same, best way to get you ears adjusted.

Not to mention keeping them fresh to prevent ear fatigue!

You know how I know ARC 2 is working? Slipknot, which I've found to sound really great on every speaker or headphone system I've used, sounds "right" when ARC 2 is on! A lot of music that sounds ok or good with ARC off falls apart. To me that's a sign that ARC is working.

I don't even mix metal music often but All Hope Is Gone is one of my reference albums. Marilyn Manson's "Mechanical Animals" is also in my reference collection for metal/hard rock. "The Dope Show" sounds incredible over the radio and that whole album has a lot of "stuff" going on which is hard to get a good mix of.

[schismatic]

Originally Posted by musikmaschine

Yeah I use a lot. Which other media players can load vst plugins? Anything 64bit with asio?

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I use foobar2k with ASIO drivers and ARC2 via a vst loader. Works great.

[DR Music]

Originally Posted by musikmaschine

:thumbup:So what's your verdict on the krk ergo?

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Loved the fact that is only effected the 500 and under frequencies, but it gave my snares and vocals a twangy sound for some reason. Couldn't stand it after 2 weeks. After comparing both, I say both worked very well.. Ergo is great because its pretty much on all the time, so it's easier to get used too. But ARC 2 is great because there is no extra A/D D/A in the chain, I rather have my D-box running the show. The stereo seperation goes to Ergo though! I'm going to try AudioHiJack later on the week.

I THINK I did leave ARC2 on while bouncing when I mentioned ARC was not working at all for me.

Even with enough acoustic treatment, placed at all reflection points, clouds, 6 inch bass traps on the back wall, I'd still rather use room correction. The detail in the low-mid is nice with any of the room correction software/hardware.

[Jeezo]

Originally Posted by musikmaschine

Yeah I use a lot. Which other media players can load vst plugins? Anything 64bit with asio?

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i'm on 32 , and even on a 64 system you can run a 32 app

[A Fak]

Does anybody know if its possible to use the measurement file i made with arc2 on my mac with arc2 on my PC? I copied the measurement folder from my mac and moved it to the arc folder in my pc but it still doesn't recognize it.

[A Fak]

nvm just figured it out. If anybody else runs into this problem it doesn't go under the root folder but under the ik folder in my documents.

[dangralick]

Apologize that this is slightly off topic. I'm still using ARC 1 with ProTools 10 and a Digi 003. It was working fine until I recently upgraded from ProTools 10.2, to 10.3.2 - at which point I was no longer able to do any new measurements using ARC. Since the ProTools upgrade, I get a message in the ARC measurement tool saying that it cannot find the driver for the selected interface. (I think the new ProTools version may have included a new 003 driver). The 003 shows up as an available interface, but I get the 'unable to locate driver' message. I have tried uninstalling an re-installing ARC, but still doesn't work. Wondering if anyone else is having or has had this problem, and whether upgrading to ARC 2 will fix. Any advice or insight appreciated.

[HOLOSONIX]

Any news on the standalone version?

[Lights]

IK said that they would *consider* the feedback. Not that they were working on it. And you'd have to guess that would be ARC3 before you'd see it. Not in a 2.x version. So in guessing you have a couple years before they'd confirm/announce it.

[BlackBackDrop]

ARC System 2(ver.2.0.1)
Release Notes Changes from version 2.0:

General:

- Improved Combined L/R Correction

- General reliability improvements

[jrhager84]

Until it detects renders, I can't use it.

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[Brian @ IK]

Detecting render is spotty from host to host. That's the reason we don't currently include it.

[jrhager84]

I'd certainly love to help beta test it. I can't tell you how many times I forget to disable it, and I wonder for a few minutes why my mix sounds funny on reference systems. I really do wish I could use this product, but because of my own ineptitude, I just can't justify the risk.

[thatdudejude]

Originally Posted by Peter - IK

I checked with our Support Manager and he stated that we haven't had reports of persistent issues with PT so I'd ask that you please report this so they can diagnose what's going on and help get it stable in your PT environment(s). IK Multimedia Support

Thanks again!

Don't mean to pick at old scabs, but I've started using ARC2 last week (running PT10.3.2 on OSX 10.7.3) and since then, I've been having random crashing issues as well, specifically 'Segmentation Fault' and 'Bus Error' being the culprits.

Are you guys aware of this/any potential solutions?

[Zyzygis]

Originally Posted by BlackBackDrop

ARC System 2(ver.2.0.1)
Release Notes Changes from version 2.0:

General:

- Improved Combined L/R Correction

- General reliability improvements

Do we need to redo the measuring?

[Wiz_Oz]

Originally Posted by Zyzygis

Do we need to redo the measuring?

bump


would like to know as well.


cheers

Wiz

[Zyzygis]

Perhaps someone from IK Multimedia could clarify?

[Brian @ IK]

No, you do not need to redo the measurements. The changes are in how those measurements are processed when you load them into the software.

[Brian @ IK]

Originally Posted by thatdudejude

Don't mean to pick at old scabs, but I've started using ARC2 last week (running PT10.3.2 on OSX 10.7.3) and since then, I've been having random crashing issues as well, specifically 'Segmentation Fault' and 'Bus Error' being the culprits.

Are you guys aware of this/any potential solutions?

I'm not personally aware of that issue. It's something you need to contact Tech Support about, and they will be able to determine the source of the problem.