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Old 8th July 2012   #871
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As a tape user for many years I feel compelled to say that I think this is the closest yet by a long shot. It really has that 'unexplainable' tape forgiveness and punch. Love the simplicity of the interface too. Great work guys.
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I'm running 6.5 using XP 64 bit and I don't have any problems at all.
Good for you. haha.
No, but seriously... I dunno man, I have a suite of 75 plugins. None of them freeze up like this. VTM is the only one. Don't get me wrong, I love VTM and will keep using it. I just think they have a few things to work out in their code (which is to be expected). I'm patiently waiting an update and I'm not really complaining, just trying to help the team become aware.

You've got to report, if you expect them to troubleshoot .
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Good for you. haha.
No, but seriously... I dunno man, I have a suite of 75 plugins. None of them freeze up like this. VTM is the only one. Don't get me wrong, I love VTM and will keep using it. I just think they have a few things to work out in their code (which is to be expected). I'm patiently waiting an update and I'm not really complaining, just trying to help the team become aware.

You've got to report, if you expect them to troubleshoot .
Hmm, I'v notice some freezes too. It reminds me VCC freezes on beta public testing. Maybe its about iLok2 ? What version of iLok driver are you using, and what site are you download it ? As I know there are two websites to download the iLok driver...

So, I wish Slate release update soon, that resolving freezes AND makes bass aligment independent for ungrouped instances of VTM ))
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That's a good point. I've downloaded the driver from the iLok website, but now that you mention it, I don't remember picking a specific version when downloading the driver (ie: 1 or 2).

Where is the other website you can download from?
Which one do you have installed?
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The most up to date versions of the iLok Client/Driver software and PACE InterLok Drivers can be downloaded here:

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Thanks a ton Ashley.
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Hmm, I'v notice some freezes too. It reminds me VCC freezes on beta public testing. Maybe its about iLok2 ? What version of iLok driver are you using, and what site are you download it ? As I know there are two websites to download the iLok driver...

So, I wish Slate release update soon, that resolving freezes AND makes bass aligment independent for ungrouped instances of VTM ))
I also reported this during the beta stage but Fabrice team couldn't reproduce it either. Hopefully they'll have more details now from people who's submitted tickets at their helpdesk. It's still happening here, btw. Latest iLok drivers installed.
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who did a A/B with the anamod ATS-1?
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Stand alone version that actually records?

OK, so I'm an old timer and haven't warmed up to ITB as fast as I should have, and still have lots of outboard gear and a big old console mixer. So, you can call me a Luddite if you want to, even though I'm pretty freakin geeky, but in a more analog sort of way when it comes to music. (I've also worked with computers since about 1974, but I'd like to mostly keep them away from my music work.)

All that said, I think it would be great to be able to bounce to a VTM that records right to disk, without using separate DAW software... sort of like I've done to an Alesis HD24xr unit (which I like using on remotes).

It could just hand me a file per track in some directory... really basic.

Yeah, so I know I can probably find some open source or cheap DAW that would act as a host and stay pretty inconspicuous, but why shouldn't this just record, like my old tape decks would?

C'mon, Fabrice - wouldn't take you the afternoon, probably.

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OK, so I'm an old timer and haven't warmed up to ITB as fast as I should have, and still have lots of outboard gear and a big old console mixer. So, you can call me a Luddite if you want to, even though I'm pretty freakin geeky, but in a more analog sort of way when it comes to music. (I've also worked with computers since about 1974, but I'd like to mostly keep them away from my music work.)

All that said, I think it would be great to be able to bounce to a VTM that records right to disk, without using separate DAW software... sort of like I've done to an Alesis HD24xr unit (which I like using on remotes).

It could just hand me a file per track in some directory... really basic.

Yeah, so I know I can probably find some open source or cheap DAW that would act as a host and stay pretty inconspicuous, but why shouldn't this just record, like my old tape decks would?

C'mon, Fabrice - wouldn't take you the afternoon, probably.

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That's a good point. I've downloaded the driver from the iLok website, but now that you mention it, I don't remember picking a specific version when downloading the driver (ie: 1 or 2).

Where is the other website you can download from?
Which one do you have installed?
I have the most up-to-date driver for iLok and am still having the freeze. I don't see any option for different drivers for iLok 1 or iLok 2...it's just a single driver download from May 23, 2012.
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VTM on the master buss 1/2" at 30ips and FG9 tape = MAGIC.
Good combo for sure.
The VTM really does do a fair bit of compression too.
I've been using VTM at mastering on stereo mixes.
VTM knocks about 3db of transient peaks off the mix.
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I gainstage all tracks into VCC, add VTM and freeze them all leaving CPU for other processing tasks, really enjoying to work this way, better results, using less filtering and compression now.
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I gainstage all tracks into VCC, add VTM and freeze them all leaving CPU for other processing tasks, really enjoying to work this way, better results, using less filtering and compression now.
Thanks for tip. What DAW are you using ?
In Cubase, when I freeze channels, I can't put another plugins on these channels. To do it is only way is rout them to group tracks and there add another processors...lots of fun Steinberg...
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Thanks for tip. What DAW are you using ?
In Cubase, when I freeze channels, I can't put another plugins on these channels. To do it is only way is rout them to group tracks and there add another processors...lots of fun Steinberg...
In Reaper you can freeze any plugin/s and keep adding more on same track for real time processing.
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"In Cubase, when I freeze channels, I can't put another plugins on these channels."

Just a thought and you probably already know this... after gainstaging and applying some (Slate) processing, rather than Freeze, try bouncing to an audio file and continue with your mixing (and additional processing & tweaking) from there.
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Man.....I tell ya..... I'm going through all my old personal recordings/mixes, and putting them though VTM on the master buss.

1/2" at 30ips and FG9 tape = MAGIC.

Heres a re-mix......VTM adds so much LIFE, so much VIBE!
interesting but how does the original without VTM sound??? CAn you post it so we can A B it. Would be cool
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Thanks for tip. What DAW are you using ?
In Cubase, when I freeze channels, I can't put another plugins on these channels. To do it is only way is rout them to group tracks and there add another processors...lots of fun Steinberg...
Well technically you can add plugins after freezing the channel to slot 7 and 8 which are post fader.
This could get tricky if automating the fader into a compressor but it's do-able if you automate the output of the plugin instead of the fader.
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interesting but how does the original without VTM sound??? CAn you post it so we can A B it. Would be cool
Ill post it tonight when i get home. Stay tuned.........
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Let's try to direct bug reporting and tech issues to Slate and keep this thread about people's findings/applications for the product. This is what I'm interested in reading.

I know it's frustrating to have shit crash --- I fully sympathize --- but you do have a faster, more direct remedy.

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Let's try to direct bug reporting and tech issues to Slate and keep this thread about people's findings/applications for the product. This is what I'm interested in reading.

I know it's frustrating to have shit crash --- I fully sympathize --- but you do have a faster, more direct remedy.

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I would say revvealing potential bugs/issues is just as important in learning about a product you might want to buy don't you think?
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I would say revvealing potential bugs/issues is just as important in learning about a product you might want to buy don't you think?
Sure I can see that side. But for those of us already using it, reading pages and pages of bug complaints with very little info on applications, tip & tricks etc gets frustrating.

Guess someone should start a new thread? Less about the new product announcement for potential buyers and more about how people who already have it are using it and what kind of results they are getting...
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I would say revvealing potential bugs/issues is just as important in learning about a product you might want to buy don't you think?
mos def for me. I kind of want to know what the potential bugs are, something I might not be aware of if people are submitting their tickets only to slate digital (which they should be doing).

now price bitching, that's another story altogether.

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Ok. regarding application, what do you guys like to set your bass alignment at? So, far I'm using it at 0 and -3(on a song w/o drums) in the songs I've worked on.

It seemed to introduce a bit of boominess to the song without drums, so I had to pull it back in that song. I am hoping adjustable Bass Alignment for each machine is coming very soon.

Also, I seem to prefer the 2 inch machine at 15 IPS with 456 tape for most tracks so far. This combination sounds thick and dirty...that's with the tracks gain-staged to -18dbfs and usually zero on the INPUT control.
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Ok. regarding application, what do you guys like to set your bass alignment at? So, far I'm using it at 0 and -3(on a song w/o drums) in the songs I've worked on.

It seemed to introduce a bit of boominess to the song without drums, so I had to pull it back in that song. I am hoping adjustable Bass Alignment for each machine is coming very soon.

Also, I seem to prefer the 2 inch machine at 15 IPS with 486 tape for most tracks so far. This combination sounds thick and dirty...that's with the tracks gain-staged to -18dbfs and usually zero on the INPUT control.
thick and dirty ...that will help nice review
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Ok. regarding application, what do you guys like to set your bass alignment at? So, far I'm using it at 0 and -3(on a song w/o drums) in the songs I've worked on.

It seemed to introduce a bit of boominess to the song without drums, so I had to pull it back in that song. I am hoping adjustable Bass Alignment for each machine is coming very soon.

Also, I seem to prefer the 2 inch machine at 15 IPS with 486 tape for most tracks so far. This combination sounds thick and dirty...that's with the tracks gain-staged to -18dbfs and usually zero on the INPUT control.
I really like the bass anywhere between -1 and +1. Depends on how thick I want the bottom end to be. Usually 0 is just right though. It gives just the right amount of bump. I'm with you on the 2 inch machine with 15 IPS. That particular combo just sounds amazing.
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I'll keep it short:

1. Almost 900 replies? This thread is nuts!!

2. Nonetheless, i couldn't stop reading and i was unable to overcome temptation.

3. Search good price -> Buy -> Install -> Try..

4-10. OMG!!! This plugin is great!!!!

I'm going to use VTM a LOT!!! I love what it does to drums and it's great how i'm able to shape sounds and take digital harshness out just with VTM.

11. The wheels are spinning.. Shitbonkers..
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I'm getting pops n clicks too in Cubase 6.5 under Win 7 64bit. Definitely Wow & Flutter related - 0% = no clicks, 100% = lots, even with no audio running through it, but it disappears once bypassed.

But with W&F at zero it's fantastic, I'm using far less compression & eq and just selecting different tape, speeds & bias to suit the material instead. Especially noticed how easy it was to get the bass & kick to play nicely together just by toggling through a few settings, something I usually obsess over for days.

EDIT: Ok, only got to page 27 of the thread before posting this so I missed the bit about the Pace drivers. Installing the latest Pace drivers, re-booting, opening the project, removing the instances of VTM and then re-installing VTM seems to work now even with W&F at 100%. Before I removed and re-inserted VTM I was still getting clicks so it seems this is a necessary step (for me at least)...
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I'm getting pops n clicks too in Cubase 6.5 under Win 7 64bit. Definitely Wow & Flutter related - zero = no clicks, full = lots, even with no audio running through it, but it disappears once bypassed.

But with W&F at zero it's fantastic, I'm using far less compression & eq and just selecting different tape, speeds & bias to suit the material instead. Especially noticed how easy it was to get the bass & kick to play nicely together just by toggling through a few settings, something I usually obsess over for days.
Be careful, use a HPF befoe VTM if you're running it at 15ips just to be on the safe side.
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Be careful, use a HPF befoe VTM if you're running it at 15ips just to be on the safe side.
Thanks, but it was clicking away even without the track playing. Anyway, seems to be fixed after latest Pace drivers installed and removing VTM from all tracks and then re-inserting them - I must've edited my post whilst you were replying
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