Thanks, @wakestyle! As for other additions and product development, we're working on it - to that end, at present we are doing a little survey to find out how we are doing and what we could do better.
Feel free to leave us your feedback at http://bit.ly/LHlrC5 - it only takes 5-10 mins to complete! Big thanks to those who replied already.
The general ideas is interesting and seems powerful, but the workflow seems a little troublesome, when I look spontaneously for new chords.
E.g.: I've got a nice 8 bar house rhodes chord groove and I like to change one maybe 2 chords. Then I'd need to prepare the tracks (no split regions, channel numbering, midi port, etc.), MIDI export, import to Liquid, export to MIDI, import to Logic.
Maybe it only seems troublesome. Any experiences out there concerning this?
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The general ideas is interesting and seems powerful, but the workflow seems a little troublesome, when I look spontaneously for new chords.
E.g.: I've got a nice 8 bar house rhodes chord groove and I like to change one maybe 2 chords. Then I'd need to prepare the tracks (no split regions, channel numbering, midi port, etc.), MIDI export, import to Liquid, export to MIDI, import to Logic.
Maybe it only seems troublesome. Any experiences out there concerning this?
I sort of felt the same way, which is why I'd prefer if the program was available as a VSTI...
Perhaps though, it doesn't take too much time to export/import things into a midi file, but still, I found that there was still a lot of room for experimentation regarding designation of which kind of track should be what...
Nonetheless I still think it's a strong program but it just has a different workflow... btw it's not the only program that I'd use that I'd still have to import/export to get results...
Another thing that might work is if the demo would work without time limit, but just be crippled in some other way (like 8 bars max).
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It could be different on a mac...
The general ideas is interesting and seems powerful, but the workflow seems a little troublesome, when I look spontaneously for new chords.
E.g.: I've got a nice 8 bar house rhodes chord groove and I like to change one maybe 2 chords. Then I'd need to prepare the tracks (no split regions, channel numbering, midi port, etc.), MIDI export, import to Liquid, export to MIDI, import to Logic.
Maybe it only seems troublesome. Any experiences out there concerning this?
I can't say in Logic but in Ableton it's really easy to export a midi clip. I just right click on it and select export. Then import in LN and just send midi from it to the instruments. That easy.
All of this takes seconds that then give me a ton of minutes of pure harmonic joy! After I get to the point where experimentation in LN joins with my composition's vision and vibe (usually it doesn't take long) I just drag the clips back in Ableton and that's it.
From what I know LN is more compatible with Logic than with Ableton.
You should demo it and try it really!
Here is the video that convinced me and the guy uses Logic:
I can't say in Logic but in Ableton it's really easy to export a midi clip. I just right click on it and select export. Then import in LN and just send midi from it to the instruments. That easy.
All of this takes seconds that then give me a ton of minutes of pure harmonic joy! After I get to the point where experimentation in LN joins with my composition's vision and vibe (usually it doesn't take long) I just drag the clips back in Ableton and that's it.
From what I know LN is more compatible with Logic than with Ableton.
You should demo it and try it really!
Here is the video that convinced me and the guy uses Logic:
Thanks a lot for the explanation. I guess it looks more troublesome than it is. I'll give it a shot.
The general ideas is interesting and seems powerful, but the workflow seems a little troublesome, when I look spontaneously for new chords.
E.g.: I've got a nice 8 bar house rhodes chord groove and I like to change one maybe 2 chords. Then I'd need to prepare the tracks (no split regions, channel numbering, midi port, etc.), MIDI export, import to Liquid, export to MIDI, import to Logic.
Hi deft_bonz,
Thanks for your post. Here's my rather technical answer:
The current general plug-in architecture couldn't handle multi-track applications such as Liquid Notes very well, let alone when different channels are manipulated simultaneously. Our software in the shape of a plug-in would not improve the workflow at all but in most instances make it appear even more awkward. The routing effort could more than double. A full code integration into sequencers would solve the problem elegantly, of course. But for the time being, we are best off with the standalone approach. In a future update, we are planning to incorporate a timecode sync for better communication between Liquid Notes and sequencers and/or additional/other music applications. That will improve the overall fluidity of the workflow a lot. Liquid Notes would then even behave like a genuine plug-in if applied to only one instrument track in the sequencer.
Long story short, let me now get to your question. The current version of Liquid Notes allows you to record directly into Logic, or any sequencer at that, no MIDI-Ex followed by MIDI-In routines necessary after reharmonization of a piece. So all you have to do is prepare your tracks as described by you and do the routing setup to your seqencer once. The rest is direct communication.
I hope this helps. Let us know if we can be of any assistance while you're exploring the software further.
Is there a way to chose Automatic Window Scrolling in LN ?
I find nothing in the manual.
Would be an helpful option when working(editing) in real time ...
Hi Gemylon,
Thanks! Great to hear you like our software.
You're right about the live aspect. Scrolling would be a neat feature for that. Imagine a slow stream of the chord boxes moving across the screen while the song is blasting out of the speakers in a club, being harmonically atomized and reconstructed in real time.
We see a high potential for Liquid Notes to become a powerful live application besides its benefits for traditional music production. We have a few add-ons on our list of (not so distant) future developments, scrolling being one of them, naturally.
Today we released version 1.2.1 with more support with the general routing setup. Besides the 10-track demos, we offer new 3-track demos for a very simple start with Liquid Notes. Check it out. All the necessary information can be accessed on our support page: Liquid Notes - Support. We're thinking about producing demos for more sequencers, like Live and Pro Tools.
So there's more nice stuff to come. I'll keep you updated on all that ...
We have released a minor update of our music intelligence software Liquid Notes today: the update improves overall performance and addresses a number of issues concerning the music production workflow.
Thanks to all those of you who left us their feedback either here on GS or through the customer survey we did in the recent weeks! Many of you reported the workflow being an issue, and we took this to our heart: there's more work left for us to make this more fluid for you, however today we bring you an update that has more comfort in your workflow.
Here is what we packed into Liquid Notes v1.2.1:
A succession of (mostly short) identical chords can now be merged into one chord box to be manipulated by only one controller for all combined chords. To activate this function a checkbox in the wizard can be selected ("Merge identical chords").
We offer new and very simple demo music files musically derived from the earlier ones to get started with Liquid Notes more smoothly. Routing for the 10-track demo was quite a challenge. With the new 3-track demos and a detailed description, taking the first steps with Liquid Notes and learning how to go about the routing process has become simple.
Please refer to the ReadMe Files that come with the demo pieces before working with the demos. You can access the demos via the welcome screen in Liquid Notes or on our website.
We have fixed a bug with inadvertently sustained notes in Cubase (only for Cubase run in Windows). The solution can be found in the FAQ section of the website.
The license manager has been optimized.
Some minor bugs have been fixed.
Some words on system requirements and performance:
Liquid Notes has been tested with Cubase on Windows and Logic Studio on Mac OS. We provide demo music for both combinations of the sequencer plus the respective operating system.
Liquid Notes has been tested with Pro Tools. However, so far we only offer a plain MIDI file for demo testing.
Performance with other sequencers should be OK but has not been evaluated comprehensively yet.
Communication between Liquid Notes and Live is seamless. However, Live does not allow a multi-channel MIDI export needed for Liquid Notes to analyze the music.
Known issues you should be aware of:
Liquid Notes does not work satisfactorily with Cubase under Mac OS. The MIDI communication stream into Cubase causes problems. We are working on a solution.
As always, Tutorial videos and other related material can be found here.
We hope you enjoy this update of Liquid Notes! Let us know how we're doing, or contact us at support@re-compose.com.
Testing compatibility of Liquid Notes with Sonar is planned for earliest next week. Bear with us, with some many sequencers on the market we want to make sure each one is tested thoroughly before adding it to our list. We'll post an update here as soon as we are done!
The discount has been extended and will stay for an indefinite period for now. We will look at deciding on a final price after the summer months.
We have been experiencing some problems with our web hosting provider that result in our website not being reachable occasionally for some minutes. We are working on a solution already - apologies for the inconvenience.
Testing compatibility of Liquid Notes with Sonar is planned for earliest next week. Bear with us, with some many sequencers on the market we want to make sure each one is tested thoroughly before adding it to our list. We'll post an update here as soon as we are done!
The discount has been extended and will stay for an indefinite period for now. We will look at deciding on a final price after the summer months.
We have been experiencing some problems with our web hosting provider that result in our website not being reachable occasionally for some minutes. We are working on a solution already - apologies for the inconvenience.
That's good news. Thank you. I wish you continued success with this
new software.
We're currently experiencing a few problems with our domain host service. All email traffic could be affected by this at intervals.
Your emails should get through to us fine via the usual channels. But to make absolutely sure we do receive your inquiries, you may also send them to reco.provisionary@gmail.com.
Sorry for this temporary inconvenience. We're working on a fix.
Hi everyone, We're currently experiencing a few problems with our domain host service. All email traffic could be affected by this at intervals.
Our domain host has implemented mechanisms to improve the quality of service. Email and website are now closely monitored, all services are up and running normally for more than 7 days now.
Apologies for any inconvenience this may have caused!
We have finished compatibility testing of Liquid Notes v1.2.1 with Sonar earlier this week. The good news: it is working as expected, there have not been any glitches.
Here is an article in our support forum that explains how to get the best results when working with Sonar - RE-COMPOSE | Does Liquid Notes work with Sonar?. Note that you can select two "modes" to establish the connection with Sonar; if you do not want to engage in routing you may select 'No Sequencer' in the new project wizard.
Indeed, we quietly launched Liquid Notes 1.3 last Thursday. We'll provide more details in a separate official post about the new features - some words here already: it's a massive jump in download size from the roughly 10 MB (version 1.2.1) to now close to 200 MB with version 1.3.
The reason for this is that we focused on two areas which needed improvement: installation and those critical 3-5 mins when you get started. To that end, a built-in synthesizer and a variety of music templates for different genres enables you to work completely standalone. A quick start guide and a start window that is featured centrally when opening Liquid Notes gives you an intro into all there is in Liquid Notes, which we believe was badly missing.
To the other end, a lot of effort has been put into making the installation (especially on Windows machines) more smooth and linking it with your sequencer.
Thus, this update results in a much better user experience. You can also read about it on our Re-Compose Blog.
ps: Should you see a malicious file warning when downloading the software, that's some issue with a new feature in Google Chrome and Mozilla Firefox - see article. Our files are safe!
Stay tuned for the official announcement, and happy to receive your feedback!
thanks,
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Liquid Notes 1.3. Same outside. Way more music composition power inside.
Today we are officially releasing a major upgrade of Liquid Notes, the intelligent music composition assistant. With built-in synthesizers, a variety of music templates of different styles, improved auto-routing to sequencers, a quick start guide, and demo music with automated sequencer actions for an easy start, this is the best Liquid Notes yet.
Optimize the effect of your music with the musical intelligence of Liquid Notes! Download it from our website.
First of all, let us express our appreciation for the feedback being provided over the past months. We have spent the summer taking in the comments and working very hard to make Liquid Notes better--in particular, the installation of our software and getting started with it. Liquid Notes 1.3 has grown from 20 MB to nearly 200 MB, due to a long list of changes and the integration of synthesizers, sound databases, etc. All of this resulted in a significantly better user experience.
We have kept the best things unchanged: you’ll still be able to purchase Liquid Notes from our website for EUR 139,- (incl. VAT) / USD 149,- (excl. sales tax). Simply hit the “Buy” button. We haven’t changed the user interface or the musical logic of the program. But we did change the welcome routine. It will invite you to take the first steps with Liquid Notes and to go ahead experimenting with a variety of demo pieces.
Upgrade for free. Get a free trial version.
Customers who have purchased Liquid Notes in the past can upgrade to the new version free of charge.
Liquid Notes comes as a 30-day free trial. Should you have installed our software in the past and your trial has already expired, please notify us at support@re-compose.com.
Benefit from new features.
- A prominently located welcome screen with all-around information to get the full picture about Liquid Notes (with access to a quick start guide, demo music, and automated sequencer actions).
- Built-in synthesizers (including a sound database with high-quality instruments) for a much better sound experience and to work independently from any additional music software.
- A larger, better assortment of music templates (pre-arranged sequences) of different styles for further use in larger compositions / productions. We’ll keep expanding the list.
- Improved automatic routing for Cubase, Logic, and other sequencers with little input required by the user.
- An optimized installer for Windows to prevent troubles during installation.
- Bug fixes and lots of other small improvements for an improved usability.
Boost your compositions with the features you love.
- Re-Compose. Analyze your composition in-depth and make changes to multi-track arrangements in real time without interfering with your musical handwriting and style.
- Re-Harmonize. Alter chord functions, substitute chords (exchanges), add tension (degree of dissonance), and create chord progressions and cadences.
- Optimize. Enhance the “musical impact” of your compositions.
- Improvise and play melody lines. Perform flawlessly live on-stage.
Find tutorial videos and other related material directly on our support page. Or, subscribe to our YouTube Channel for video updates, and on Facebook for status updates.
Download, feedback, and support.
Download Liquid Notes from our website, or upgrade to the new version directly through the notification window upon starting Liquid Notes.
Not to bother anyone here, but please allow us to ask: Did anyone of you experience problems during installation or operation of Liquid Notes 1.3?
A lot of people have upgraded to the new version of our software. Only one person reported a minor problem with the installation of Liquid Notes 1.3, everyone else seemed quite content and reported no issues.
Thanks for letting us know, this information is really helpful for us!
ps: And thanks to those of you here who shared very encouraging feedback on Liquid Notes 1.3 via our support forum with us!
Hey guys,
so after a long time of not contributing in this thread I finally have some time again and would like to share a few thoughts on my experience with the update (1.3) of Liquid Notes: I've been using it for a week now, and it has definitely gotten better, especially from a usability standpoint.
The layout got more user- friendly, especially the welcoming page allows a quicker introduction to how to use LN.
I like that one can start using the demo pieces by just one click and also the newly added short description of the most important aspects/functions as a pdf. (vital when using LN for the first time!)
It’s remains a bit complicated to connect the sequencer to the software when working on your own pieces...but I got used to it quit quickly actually- did you?.
So I think especially new users will find the changes very helpful. It just got a lot easier to get involved with the software.
Any thoughts?
Some Windows users have reported a licensing error when trying to start Liquid Notes for the first time after installation - see screenshot hereafter:
This is Mr. Windows pulling a leg on us. If you see this error message please click on "Cancel" and follow these three simple steps in this support article to resolve this. It takes less than a minute.
This is a Windows problem only. Doesn't happen on a Mac.
Apologies for the inconvenience, we're already working on a fix!
FYI - We have released a boxed version of Liquid Notes. As of yesterday you can opt for the box during checkout on our website. Simply click the "buy"-button, and the checkout / shopping cart will become available.
We hope you like the new box and its colorful styling! More information in this article here.
There was some hiccup with our last post announcing the latest addition of an instrument library and track assignment, which is now located under the original thread about Liquid Notes - please find it here: Instrument Library and Track Assignment in Liquid Notes.
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