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Old 21st May 2012   #1
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Software SKnote "ThreeD" - mono to stereo widener

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Now available :D

It got several algorithms and is mono to stereo and stereo to stereo, with frequency dependent control.
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This is an extremely simple effect, ThreeD



It is a mono->stereo widener with just three controls.

Here is an audio sample.

An acoustic guitar, mono file.

The sound starts mono, then ThreeD comes in, again mono and so on, while changing parameters.
No reverb added.

ThreeD_Guitar
(guitar by Jerry Mateo, thanks!)

It is NOT a mid-side processor. Mid side cannot act on mono sources, of course, because they don't contain side component to balance.

ThreeD adds stereo width and dimension in a frequency based way, from complete widening (full spectrum) to subtle air widening (high freqs only).

It is very useful to give each source in the stereo panorama its dimension (instead of being a point source) without adding reverb or delays, so keeping it very clear.
From extreme strings widening to subtle clean guitar stereo width.

It is currently going under first public tests and will be available in a few days.
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Is it free?
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more audio examples would be nice, but it is an interesting plug. Is it mono-compatible?
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Almost and yes
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Looks very interesting!
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Nice in the example. Very subtle and natural. That in itself is unique.
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When is it availible for purchase? Or downloading? :D
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Here is a veeery nice example I received.

It is a mono loop.

It is a bit compressed (Bus) and through Roundtone, and it is translated to stereo by means of ThreeD.

It really gets life.

The files are roughly peak matched but the level is not the point.

Loop_dry

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Here is a veeery nice example I received.

It is a mono loop.

It is a bit compressed (Bus) and through Roundtone, and it is translated to stereo by means of ThreeD.

It really gets life.

The files are roughly peak matched but the level is not the point.

Loop_dry

Loop_ThreeD

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I like what it is doing to the music in general but not the hi-hat. The processed hi-hat sounds grainy. But for guitars and synths it is really impressive
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I think it's a buy for me. will it be available as VST 3, x64 for PC? how much?
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Nice more examples please...... Before and after thanks. I'm liking so far.
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I like what it is doing to the music in general but not the hi-hat. The processed hi-hat sounds grainy. But for guitars and synths it is really impressive
yeah that example doesn't do the drums too many favors. you can really hear the kick being doubled to the point of distraction. looking forward to playing around with it tho
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I do not like it. It is simple delay, you can hear it on Deep Deep loop.
I mean I like it! haha, but you can do such thing using DAW onboard plugins
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I do not like it. It is simple delay, you can hear it on Deep Deep loop.
I mean I like it! haha, but you can do such thing using DAW onboard plugins
Mmmhh... not sure...
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yeah that example doesn't do the drums too many favors. you can really hear the kick being doubled to the point of distraction. looking forward to playing around with it tho
Yeah, I agree. That particular example might sound better if you could filter the transients out of the delayed portion, or possibly de-ess heavily like some folks do with reverb sends.

Something tells me that simply running this plug on a bus might not really get the phase coherence as SKNote intended though.
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This is not for a bus! It is a rather extreme example.
Phase coherence is absolute, though.
You got it, the attack button is almost there
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Just to clarify, I was not meaning "master bus" or "drum bus" but more like "reverb bus" where you can further eq or compress the effect separately from the dry track (either before or after the ThreeD).
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So I started following Sknote months ago when rtas was mentioned...I stopped following when I hadn't seen the format... So I'm out of the loop. Is rtas still coming? Cause I'd probably buy all of these plugs and I know others would too
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Yes, it is, even though it required quite a lot of time

The first one will be GTS-39 after this Bus v.2 update
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Do RTAS and you'll have one additional customer :-)
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Love the GTS-39!!! And strip! I've been using them in nearly every project! If it were also RTAS, I would be a very happy boy
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Hi. I'm very interested in this. Any idea when I can get this and what the price will be?
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Hi. I'm very interested in this. Any idea when I can get this and what the price will be?
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Adding some new modes and an attack-preservating option.
TBD (cheap!) and with a bundle option
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Adding some new modes and an attack-preservating option.
TBD (cheap!) and with a bundle option
OK thanks Quinto. i wait with baited breath
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Added new algorithms and the attack option. Should see the light this week...
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It took a longer path but it's here

Updated list of features.

It includes several modes, now. Mono to stereo modes have the M->S prefix, stereo modes have S->S prefix

Each mode includes a cross-frequency control. All modes act on the upper range but when differently noted.

M->S modes

- Spread - spreads the frequencies on the stereo field
- Phase - moves out of phase one channel
- EQ - splits the signal in two bands and sends lower to left and upper to right. Useful for such things like recovering mono piano recordings
- Delay - introduces some delay between channels
- Pan above - the upper range oscillates L-R
- Pan below - the lower range oscillates L-R
- Ambient - several delays with varying phase extract the existing ambience and add width

S->S modes

- Mid-Side - a simple mid side balance on the upper range
- Delay - one channel is delayed (different from the mono mode)
- Phase - one channel is moved out of phase (different from mono mode)
- Ambient - several delays with varying phase extract the existing ambience and add width

It will be released in a few days
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Nice, that makes what, about five plug-ins that will be available any day now, and RTAS, too?

What do you think, by the end of this week?
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- EQ - splits the signal in two bands and sends lower to left and upper to right. Useful for such things like recovering mono piano recordings
Just some thoughts, Quinto, would it make sense to have low freq in center (with definable x-over) and spread the other frequencies across L and R?

I'm sure there could be other interesting ways to spread freq's around, sort of like a multi-band methodology... Or a mid spread control and a high spread control..

just my 2c

Maybe I missed something.
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Yes, all modes do exactly this, because they spread the upper band.
Only some modes spread the lower band and the EQ mode just spreads on a single pass from left to right
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