New UAD 1176 and V6.2

[mattyc]

Can't see a separate entry on the usage chart. I would assume these are more "hungry" than the existing model ?

[diogo_c]

"Today, we’ve circled back to the 1176, and modeled its entire electronic path from stem to stern — including its transformers, FET and bipolar transistor amplifiers, for colorful input/output distortion."

So they're basically saying the old one fails to emulate things properly?

[cane creek]

Let the comparisons begin ..........

[hakanai]

my understanding is that originally UA focused on the compression and sound characteristics of the gain reduction elements. With their newer plugs the whole thing has evolved to where they are emulating every little component in the signal path.

But that is only my understanding. Also, I think that it is generally thought that while the original plugs are good, the newer ones are getting better and better at getting the hardware feel. So even if they are simply redoing it, I am excited to see this.

[Vank]

Ow Yeah!!

These babies are sick! They even modelled the behaviour on all buttons out (Instead of in) so you can overdrive the input. Juicy!!!

[bishop666]

Originally Posted by mattyc

Can't see a separate entry on the usage chart. I would assume these are more "hungry" than the existing model ?

at the bottom of the chart

[kreeper_6]

Originally Posted by Vank

Ow Yeah!!

These babies are sick! They even modelled the behaviour on all buttons out (Instead of in) so you can overdrive the input. Juicy!!!

And any combination of buttons this time.

[G-Spot]

Originally Posted by diogo_c

"Today, we’ve circled back to the 1176, and modeled its entire electronic path from stem to stern — including its transformers, FET and bipolar transistor amplifiers, for colorful input/output distortion."

So they're basically saying the old one fails to emulate things properly?

Plugins are like Laundry Detergents... first they do a perfect job, but then the new ones are even better!

[dxavier]

Originally Posted by diogo_c

"Today, we’ve circled back to the 1176, and modeled its entire electronic path from stem to stern — including its transformers, FET and bipolar transistor amplifiers, for colorful input/output distortion."

So they're basically saying the old one fails to emulate things properly?

Exactly what I was thinking. I do like the UAD plugs, I own 4xUAD-1's and 1xUAD2-Quad, but surely, considering we all had the 1176 already, they could have passed on these versions as a free update for existing users?

I understand they are a business, they have bills to pay and they want more money, but this is taking the biscuit for me. I fear their gravy train is going to come to a halt.

When I took the time to complete their previous survey's, I was one of the users who requested new versions of existing plugins, but I didn't think I would have to pay the full price for it. I have never experienced this with any other form of music software.

UAD, you are understanding your consumer base, less and less.....

Originally Posted by diogo_c

"Today, we’ve circled back to the 1176, and modeled its entire electronic path from stem to stern — including its transformers, FET and bipolar transistor amplifiers, for colorful input/output distortion."

So they're basically saying the old one fails to emulate things properly?

No at all. They just didn't emulate every aspect back a decade ago as plugin designers, including UA, have done since. Things like saturation and driving the input were missing and kept many turning to other 1176 plugins.

I assume LA2A is next and maybe even Fairchild.

[dxavier]

Originally Posted by MediaMix

No at all. They just didn't emulate every aspect back a decade ago as plugin designers, including UA, have done since. Things like saturation and driving the input were missing and kept many turning to other 1176 plugins.

That is well said and fair point, but hell, can I get a trade-in for my old model, rather than having to pay the full wack?

[Silver Sonya]

Originally Posted by diogo_c

So they're basically saying the old one fails to emulate things properly?

They're saying precisely what they're saying. The original technology is 12 years old or something like that. There's no scandal.

- c

[Silver Sonya]

Originally Posted by dxavier

That is well said and fair point, but hell, can I get a trade-in for my old model, rather than having to pay the full wack?

Come on, man. The old 1176 comes free with any UA card.

- c

[Empty Planet]

Originally Posted by dxavier

.....When I took the time to complete their previous survey's, I was one of the users who requested new versions of existing plugins, but I didn't think I would have to pay the full price for it. I have never experienced this with any other form of music software.

UAD, you are understanding your consumer base, less and less.....

No kidding. Alas.

I've had UA software since I was a tiny tiny tot, but I've been drifting away over the past few years. So much is available in native, they really don't hold much of a hand these days. And this? Instead of saying, hey, we've gotten better and computers have gotten faster, here's another, better take on that 1176 which you, um, have already paid for, so here's your upgrade path, whatever that may be. Instead, it's Eat This, and pay absurdly for the privilege.

The drift continues....

Originally Posted by Silver Sonya

Come on, man. The old 1176 comes free with any UA card.

- c

It was indeed part of what I paid for when I first bought the card, and into their philosophy. That's not a freebie. It's part of what convinced me to part with the jack at that time.

This is a permissible gripe by an old UA customer. I'm allowed. And I don't think my points are unfair. But I DO think I'm an utter lunatic for spending time typing all this on the internets. What's up with THAT??

[scruffydog]

I thought the old models are pretty clunky anyway.
There really should be some incentive for users who have stood by them.....argued on their behalf....paid full price for the latest models.
The model of the 1176 came as standard with the UAD card.
But is actually the LAST plugin I reach for in the list.
The update is welcome....but $299 REQUIRES MORE THOUGHT.
They really do have bigger fish to fry with new products soon to be released.
Uad should box clever and not drain our resources so soon.

[Petermix]

Originally Posted by scruffydog

I thought the old models are pretty clunky anyway.
There really should be some incentive for users who have stood by them.....argued on their behalf....paid full price for the latest models.
The model of the 1176 came as standard with the UAD card.
But is actually the LAST plugin I reach for in the list.
The update is welcome....but $299 REQUIRES MORE THOUGHT.
They really do have bigger fish to fry with new products soon to be released.
Uad should box clever and not drain our resources so soon.

it's listed at $149 in my UAD store though...???

[method1]

yep 149 intro price

[ProducerBoy]

I'm stoked they are going this direction and updating old plugs, but I'm not sure I'm ready to drop $150-300 for the update. However, after they get the 1073 updated...

[K-Slash]

That's a great move ! Can't wait to get a UAD-2...

[Goliath|Audio]

Originally Posted by cane creek

Let the comparisons begin ..........

Warning - Plugin Alliance Character,

[scruffydog]

Lets face it guys...UAD are in it to win it!
$149 is very tempting....and if it gets me cLOSER to the 1176...i'm in!

Oh...loook!...HAPPY POST 1000 to me!!!!

[dxavier]

Originally Posted by method1

yep 149 intro price

Aha, the price is $149 if you login to your account and then go into the store. Ok, 50% off for an existing user. That is a warmer reception than before.

I still think they could throw existing loyal users a bone and provide this as a free update, but at least it is not full price.

[dxavier]

Originally Posted by scruffydog

Lets face it guys...UAD are in it to win it!
$149 is very tempting....and if it gets me cLOSER to the 1176...i'm in!

Oh...loook!...HAPPY POST 1000 to me!!!!

Happy 1000 post. That is cool. Well done. Now back on topic......

[The Beatsmith]

Argh. I want it and would pay that amount for the plugins, but i won't buy an old graphics card to get it. Oh well.

Great news for UAD-2 owners. They certainly look very snazzy. I wonder how big the differences are between the 3 models here.

And yes, an updated LA2A seems inevitable, and might be enough to tip me over the edge. I would really like to have up to date, really nice emus of 1176 and an LA2A.

Something for me to think about, i guess.

[stevens119]

Excited. Downloaded, and about to check out the new 1176's.

Anybody know if they fixed the UAD RTAS - Mac/PC problem?

[Strange Leaf]

I was going straight to shop for 300 but now at 149 is a nobrainer. The 1176 is such universal tool it makes price unimportant. LA2A next!!!

Btw, this is the reason printing plugs with Apollo is stupid.

[otobianki74]

Originally Posted by Strange Leaf

Btw, this is the reason printing plugs with Apollo is stupid.

there's nothing wrong with printing your plug-ins if you're happy with the sound.

[diogo_c]

Originally Posted by Silver Sonya

They're saying precisely what they're saying. The original technology is 12 years old or something like that. There's no scandal.

- c

There's the "milking the cow" mentality - which can be understood as a scandal to some. I don't remember UAD saying "we did not fully emulate the 1176" back when they released the plug 10 years ago.

Originally Posted by Silver Sonya

Come on, man. The old 1176 comes free with any UA card.

- c

Free when you buy a +1k card. Not really a freebie.

$149 for the update is "fair" but I wouldn't say it is great as well.

[stevens119]

These new comps sound awesome!