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#31 | | Gear maniac
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Originally Posted by stevens119  For those interested, just did a quick test here at the studio.
15 sec clips Acoustic Guitar featuring the Old 1176LN plugin, and the 3 New ones, so you can hear the difference. Approx 5db GR, Attack Left, Release Right, 4:1
The acoustic was tracked with reissue 1176LN hardware, using probably these same settings for reference. So you'll actually be hearing approx 10db GR
Might be easy to put in your Daw and loop to check it out real quick. The new plugins are certainly grabbier, and during my first test sounded alot more like my hardware UA 1176LN's. | Could you post the dry signal, too? Please  | 
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#32 | | Lives for gear
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i'm going for these....and happy to take a punt....after all these years and experience in emulations they must have gained a lot more knowledge...
i hope these updates allow me to understand the 1176 more...it has been a struggle....
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#33 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by diogo_c Free when you buy a +1k card. Not really a freebie.
$149 for the update is "fair" but I wouldn't say it is great as well. | You also lose the use of your UAD-1 as part of the so called $149 bargain  for that alone UA should compensate you by giving you the new comps for free.
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#34 | | Lives for gear
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it seems like this is quite a big year for UAD...maybe there will be more deals along the way?
it took me many years to get on board and i missed the UAD 1...it was good for it's day...but has to go.
its is an expensive platform to invest in for sure...i got 2 uad 2's over the last year and most of the plugins aND then they drop the apollo!??!!?
Oh well...such is life...too short to worry about all that.
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#35 | | Gear addict
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Originally Posted by Silver Sonya Come on, man. The old 1176 comes free with any UA card.
- c | it didn't used to. I paid 150$ for it. At $299 This is such a fleece job I don't even know where to start.
I've gone from UAD envy, to user/fanboi, to apologist, to...disgusted. I'm done with them.
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#36 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by OldTimey1 it didn't used to. I paid 150$ for it. At $299 This is such a fleece job I don't even know where to start.
I've gone from UAD envy, to fanboi, to apologist, to...disgusted. I'm done with them. | The package is $149, for a limited time Quote:
Originally Posted by bishop666 Could you post the dry signal, too? Please | Dry signal added
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#37 | | Lives for gear
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With their money grabbing model, UAD are leaving the door wide open for the competition. Keep on fleecing us and we will end up looking elsewhere.
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#38 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by stevens119
dry signal added
| the dry one is the best...wOOOPS...did we all just waste our money in a mass plugin religious euphoria??
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#39 | | Gear addict
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Originally Posted by stevens119 The package is $149, for a limited time | ahh
well i dont even like the 1176 anyway, i think it sounds like garbage. so I don't know why this annoyed me so much. im an LA3A/LA2A guy.
It prob has something to do with UA not really being "mom'n'pop" anymore. I'm fiercely DIY. Deep breath, let it go...:0
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#40 | | Gear addict
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Wow, a lot of "victims" in this thread..... Make's me feel guilty about being happy about this.  OK. Not really. 
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Originally Posted by Doughboy OOOOHMYGAAAAAWD!!!! I hate it when I suddenly can't live without something, that I didn't even know about a few moments ago.  | | |
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#41 | | Gear nut
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Originally Posted by Strange Leaf I was going straight to shop for 300 but now at 149 is a nobrainer. The 1176 is such universal tool it makes price unimportant. LA2A next!!!
Btw, this is the reason printing plugs with Apollo is stupid. | What would be stupid would be not finishing and releasing projects because you're afraid a slightly better sounding plug-in version might come along...
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#42 | | Gear addict
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Originally Posted by mike1k Wow, a lot of "victims" in this thread..... Make's me feel guilty about being happy about this. OK. Not really. |
the only "victims" here are those that pay these ridiculous prices...
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#43 | | Lives for gear
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i just wish i was justin beiber...live would be a lot easier from here on... as far as paying for the new UAD stuff that on it's way goes.......
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#44 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by scruffydog the dry one is the best...wOOOPS...did we all just waste our money in a mass plugin religious euphoria?? | Possibly. 10db is alot of GR though. Not to mention, if I was using that much GR, I would probably eq some of that low out of the guitar too...plus, 1176's are supposed to be dirty and aggressive
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#45 | | Gear maniac
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Just took it for a little ride....
Wow....
I have heard and worked with numerous hardware and software incarnations....
They sound and behave pretty damn good to me....Best 1176 ITB so far imho.
Also has things like the strange effects that occur when tweaking or choosing different button combinations.
It has an instant yeah factor.....
Great work UA.
To all the complainers:
This will get you extremely close if not indistinguishable from the real deal for a fraction of the price.
plus all the usual advantages of plugin world.....
ITB is becoming more fantastic every day.
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#46 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by diogo_c "Today, we’ve circled back to the 1176, and modeled its entire electronic path from stem to stern — including its transformers, FET and bipolar transistor amplifiers, for colorful input/output distortion."
So they're basically saying the old one fails to emulate things properly? | You didn't know that? I thought everybody knew that the earlier UAD plugins are very limited. Amazing what marketing does, eh?
Look at the pultec. It has absolutely no modeling of the actual TUBE in the unit. It only models the EQ curves. Lets hope they revisit this one as well.. and the LA-2A.
Cheers!
bManic
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#47 | | Gear maniac
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Originally Posted by bmanic You didn't know that? I thought everybody knew that the earlier UAD plugins are very limited. Amazing what marketing does, eh?
Look at the pultec. It has absolutely no modeling of the actual TUBE in the unit. It only models the EQ curves. Lets hope they revisit this one as well.. and the LA-2A.
Cheers!
bManic | This somehow diminishes the practical power of the uad-2 by 2.5 -> You need to buy a new quad/apollo   | |
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#48 | | Gear addict
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I gotta say, after vigorously testing all the emulations out there (and against the hardware) they have pretty much cracked it now!! 
Awesome stuff and at $149 a simple no brainer!
Big up the UA crew!
G
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#49 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by bmanic You didn't know that? I thought everybody knew that the earlier UAD plugins are very limited. Amazing what marketing does, eh?
Look at the pultec. It has absolutely no modeling of the actual TUBE in the unit. It only models the EQ curves. Lets hope they revisit this one as well.. and the LA-2A. | Yep. Marketing is serious. I'm sure they will catch all of those old ones up now. I'll demo on some down time on Saturday. Until then I will wade through the endless, "this is the best ever" comments that come with the release of every new plug by every company. | |
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#50 | | Lives for gear
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yeah..to go from a possible 40 sterio instances to 12 of the new ones is a big indicator of where it is all going.....but i would not say it is a problem as i only need a few really....
the new ones seem juicy!
completely different actually....
it's like the old ones did not work or something...I JUST DON'T GET IT...?
THE GAIN STRUCTURE SEEMS SO DIFFERENT....
swap to the new ones and it's like...ahh...it's working now...!
push the old ones to get very close ...
gonna take time to really evaluate whats going on here...
well done UAD...
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#51 | | Gear nut
Joined: Nov 2009
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Originally Posted by bmanic You didn't know that? I thought everybody knew that the earlier UAD plugins are very limited. Amazing what marketing does, eh?
Look at the pultec. It has absolutely no modeling of the actual TUBE in the unit. It only models the EQ curves. Lets hope they revisit this one as well.. and the LA-2A.
Cheers!
bManic | Agreed!! I'd be happy to 'upgrade' all the modeled plugins if they incorporated full circuit modeling.. (channel strips, eq's, etc)  | |
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#52 | | Gear maniac
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Originally Posted by scruffydog it's like the old ones did not work or something...I JUST DON'T GET IT...? | .. they never did ....   | |
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#53 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by OldTimey1 it didn't used to. I paid 150$ for it. At $299 This is such a fleece job I don't even know where to start.
I've gone from UAD envy, to user/fanboi, to apologist, to...disgusted. I'm done with them. | Exactly, the 1176 SE came with my card... the 1176LN was a PAID product for a lot of us...
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#54 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by bishop666 .. they never did .... | the old ones never worked you say?
actually...that is probably true!
perhaps these should be free to make up.... under the trade description act!
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#55 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by diogo_c "Today, we’ve circled back to the 1176, and modeled its entire electronic path from stem to stern — including its transformers, FET and bipolar transistor amplifiers, for colorful input/output distortion."
So they're basically saying the old one fails to emulate things properly? | I think they jsut increased the comparison points .... witch is a good thing ...
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#56 | | Gear addict
Joined: Apr 2009 Location: Switzerland
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Originally Posted by bishop666 .. they never did .... | let's wait for a few weeks or two month and we will have lots of audio files to judge upon. For me the old emulations never reached the extreme settings of my hardware, but maybe this update will.... Especially when you hit the hardware hard with gain-reduction to 15db the emulations sucked totally when trying to achieve the same sound
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#57 | | Lives for gear
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for the cpu usage ....well maybe even the graphic engine is more hungry .....
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#58 | | Lives for gear
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well...with these i feel i have finally got a good 1176 selection...it will really make me think about programming..output assignment..and mixing...in a new way.....very refreshing!
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#59 | | 2 up Quarks 1 down Quark
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This should be enough popcorn for a while.
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#60 | | Lives for gear
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