11th September 2012
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#751 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by chilly7 | Lots of cables! None of the cables were over $50 each - and the more expensive ones were 16 feet long 
Half were 1 feet long "adapter" cables
The order was not that big, but it sure adds up fast!
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11th September 2012
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#752 | | Gear maniac
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Originally Posted by nms Chilly, you're watching a video made by the guys who are trying to sell you expensive clocks. Would you expect any less?
You do not need to be wasting your time entertaining those thoughts. The Hilo is not a substandard device which lends itself to improvement by external clocking.
Also, I don't think CoolColJ ordered any frivolously priced cables. He just ordered a lot of great quality cables I believe. That's a hell of a cable order though still. | Well i seid i do not know about thouse clocks...
But i think if there was no difference then nobody would buy thouse expansive clock, so think the difference is, here is Igor explains what hes clocks does.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-65gN44G9hU and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyb9rZgPnGo |
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11th September 2012
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#753 | | Gear maniac
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Originally Posted by CoolColJ Lots of cables! None of the cables were over $50 each - and the more expensive ones were 16 feet long 
Half were 1 feet long "adapter" cables
The order was not that big, but it sure adds up fast! | Noo!!  Better u would buy a couple but very nice cablesthen tons but cheapoo..
P.s.
It is like Hilo, u could but for Hilo price 20 cheapoo soundcards or one Hilo |
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11th September 2012
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#754 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Nov 2009 Location: Vancouver
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Originally Posted by chilly7 Noo!!  Better u would buy a couple but very nice cablesthen tons but cheapoo..
It is like Hilo, u could but for Hilo price 20 cheapoo soundcards or one Hilo  | Sorry Chilly, but spending $99 on a 3ft XLR cable is a waste of money! The Gotham GAC-2AES cables he bought will perform at least as good and is rated for AES spec.
Do you think any of the music you listen to was recorded using such cables, or do you think it was recorded with many long lengths of common cabling? CoolColJ bought lots of cables because obviously he has lots of stuff to patch. Such is the case in music production. The needs and sensibilities are different than that of an audiophile. Quote:
Originally Posted by chilly7 if there was no difference then nobody would buy thouse expansive clock | People will buy a LOT of things if you sell it well enough! If you have a unit with a poor clock it will definitely improve it. You're better off buying a better converter though than buying an external clock. Unless you have some serious money to burn there is no point in these units if you own a Hilo/Lavry/Mytek/Prism.
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11th September 2012
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#755 | | Gear maniac
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Originally Posted by nms Sorry Chilly, but spending $99 on a 3ft XLR cable is a total waste of money! The Gotham GAC-2AES cables he bought will perform as good or better. Is that kind you bought up to AES spec?
Do you think any of the music you listen to was recorded using such cables, or do you think it was recorded with many long lengths of common cabling? CoolColJ bought lots of cables because obviously he has lots of stuff to patch. Such is the case in music production. The needs and sensibilities are different than that of an audiophile.
People will buy a LOT of things if you sell it well enough! If you have a unit with a poor clock it will definitely improve it. You're better off buying a better converter though than buying an external clock. Unless you have some serious money to burn there is no point in these units if you own a Hilo/Lavry/Mytek/Prism. | Hello.
No I bought the very mice Hosa cable to connect my Avalon m5 to Hilo.
The sound is very nice and natural and it has a 0 noise. Cannot be more happy.
Speaking about clock, year i was a bit sceptical too but after i watched some ur tube videos people say with Antelope clocks the difference is not even minor but litteraly almost like a day and night and even with very expansive audio equipment.... So even thought that i do not have money right now i realy wanted to see by my own ears and if it is true then maby i will be able to aford it inthe feature. Unfortionaly my store does not carry Antelope and in fact in Canada they are not sold in reteil stores, maby only in Vancuver, but maby u guys if u see it in US stores just test it and tell me what u heared.
It looks like it is made by a crazy Russian guy |
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11th September 2012
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#756 | | Gear interested
Joined: Aug 2012 Location: Stockholm
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Originally Posted by chilly7 It looks like it is made by a crazy Russian guy  | No no, Igor Levin was brought up in US, now working in Netherlands. He is a very funny guy! I had dinner with him and other Antelope guys at the High End show in Stockholm. The stories he tells... cannot be printed here! 
I hope he will be back next year. Then I'll tell him I bought a Hilo instead of a Zodiac Gold! |
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11th September 2012
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#757 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Feb 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia
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Originally Posted by chilly7 Hello.
No I bought the very mice Hosa cable to connect my Avalon m5 to Hilo.
The sound is very nice and natural and it has a 0 noise. Cannot be more happy.
Speaking about clock, year i was a bit sceptical too but after i watched some ur tube videos people say with Antelope clocks the difference is not even minor but litteraly almost like a day and night and even with very expansive audio equipment.... So even thought that i do not have money right now i realy wanted to see by my own ears and if it is true then maby i will be able to aford it inthe feature. Unfortionaly my store does not carry Antelope and in fact in Canada they are not sold in reteil stores, maby only in Vancuver, but maby u guys if u see it in US stores just test it and tell me what u heared.
It looks like it is made by a crazy Russian guy  | 'Hosa' is just cheap rebranded Chinese cable.
Canare and Mogami are commonly used for studio wiring, for audio, video and AES. You are talking hundreds of meters with no measurable jitter, just practical studio stuff that no one thinks about once it's been constructed. Honestly you are wasting your time obsessing over details that have no practical relevance!
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11th September 2012
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#758 | | Gear maniac
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Originally Posted by CanDude No no, Igor Levin was brought up in US, now working in Netherlands. He is a very funny guy! I had dinner with him and other Antelope guys at the High End show in Stockholm. The stories he tells... cannot be printed here! 
I hope he will be back next year. Then I'll tell him I bought a Hilo instead of a Zodiac Gold!  | But "Igor" is a Russian name? So i though he is Russian and in fact he looks like a Russian guy.
P.s. what stories did he tell u, is that alowed to be printed via gearsz pm? |
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11th September 2012
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#759 | | Gear maniac
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Originally Posted by Ben F 'Hosa' is just cheap rebranded Chinese cable.
Canare and Mogami are commonly used for studio wiring, for audio, video and AES. You are talking hundreds of meters with no measurable jitter, just practical studio stuff that no one thinks about once it's been constructed. Honestly you are wasting your time obsessing over details that have no practical relevance! | Year ordiary Hosa cables are not that well, but they own company which is a doughter company of Hosa which is called Zaolla Silverline which they claim be hand made cables, here Zaolla Silverline - Hosatech they make analog and digital cables.
Well honestly i never heared Mogamy or Canare cables because they are not sold in my music shop but i do own this cable Hosatech Microphone Cable, XLR3F to XLR3M, 3 ft - Microphone Cables and it is pretty good to my ears and i think Hosa Zaolla Silverline cables are much more better then Planat Wawes and other companies which i sold in my music shop
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11th September 2012
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#760 | | Gear maniac
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Originally Posted by CanDude No no, Igor Levin was brought up in US, now working in Netherlands. He is a very funny guy! I had dinner with him and other Antelope guys at the High End show in Stockholm. The stories he tells... cannot be printed here! 
I hope he will be back next year. Then I'll tell him I bought a Hilo instead of a Zodiac Gold!  | So maby u can try one of his clocks with Hilo and tell us is there really a huge sonik perormance with Antelope clocks as many people are claiming for? |
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11th September 2012
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#761 | | Gear interested
Joined: Aug 2012 Location: Stockholm
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Originally Posted by chilly7 P.s. what stories did he tell u, is that alowed to be printed via gearsz pm?  | Naah, too personal, shouldn't have said anything about his stories probably, anyway I don't remember any details...
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11th September 2012
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#762 | | Gear interested
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Originally Posted by chilly7 So maby u can try one of his clocks with Hilo and tell us is there really a huge sonik perormance with Antelope clocks as many people are claiming for?  | I could probably do that, I think I've seen an Antelope big dollar clock in the HiFi store that has gotten my money lately, I'm sure I could persuade them to let me borrow it, but my wallet doesn't think that's very wise.
There's a lot of other gear that needs to be bought... |
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11th September 2012
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#763 | | Gear maniac
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Originally Posted by CanDude I could probably do that, I think I've seen an Antelope big dollar clock in the HiFi store that has gotten my money lately, I'm sure I could persuade them to let me borrow it, but my wallet doesn't think that's very wise.
There's a lot of other gear that needs to be bought...  | Year, but just borrow it and let us solve the mistery about thouse megical clocks from Antelope 
And ur other gear will wait |
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11th September 2012
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#764 | | Gear interested
Joined: Aug 2012 Location: Stockholm
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Originally Posted by CanDude However, I'm very dissapointed with Lynx QC!  It's very nice that they check every unit for finger prints, but it would be even nicer if they'd discovered that the headphone jack is recessed into the front panel! A Nuforce 6.3mm to 3.5mm adapter doesn't work at all due to no ground connection and a Cardas plug barely works. Brought it back to the store, they claimed they'd fixed it but still same problem. Bringing it back to the store again tomorrow, now I want a new unit. Fortunately I can use the silver-faced Hilo until I'll get a working black-faced one.
Lynx, please add a new test to your QC: plug in a HP with a Nuforce adapter or similar and check if there is a sound! Don't use a Neutrik plug since it fits into the front panel hole and hence always works. You can call it the "CanDude test"... | Problem is finally fixed by the store, I'm at peace.  It turned out the headphone socket was mounted using nuts and washers on an internal mounting plate where there shouldn't have been any washers used.
BTW Anyone seen any Hilo gut pics?
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20th September 2012
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#765 | | Gear maniac
Joined: Apr 2012 Location: planet Earth
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I think i found a bug and can repit it.
Go to you tube and play ur favorit video then on Hilo change snaphot and here u go, u have a bit crashin bug.
Any body tried it?
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20th September 2012
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#766 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by chilly7 I think i found a bug and can repit it.
Go to you tube and play ur favorit video then on Hilo change snaphot and here u go, u have a bit crashin bug.
Any body tried it? | Depends on the sample rate. I get grunge and glitches, because of a sample rate change when recalling a scene of a different sample rate etc
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21st September 2012
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#767 | | Gear maniac
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Originally Posted by CoolColJ Depends on the sample rate. I get grunge and glitches, because of a sample rate change when recalling a scene of a different sample rate etc | Thanks, now i see what is the cause of bug.
It is indeed the sample rate.
Because on my snapshot was saved 96khz sample rate at which i record but when i watch ur tube i set it in windows so it is atomaticaly switched to 44.1 khz but the bug happens if i snapshot Hilo when i will play back audio in Windows if snapshot in Hilo is saved to 96khz sampe rate but the master sampling rate at Windows will be at default at 44.1 and the audio will be running already
If nothing playback in Windows then awrything is fine but when i will start playback audio then it force Hilo to go to 44.1 sampe rate atometicaly with no bug.
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21st September 2012
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#768 | | Lives for gear
Joined: May 2006 Location: Ann Arbor, MI
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Originally Posted by Rev. Eslam ...The high-end Antelope are AFAIK the most expensive converters on the market... | Quote:
Originally Posted by chilly7 I think metric Halo uln 8 is one of the most expe
nsive audioterfaces with multi i/Os but in the same time of of the best audiointerfaces. | No offense, but you guys aren't even close!
AudioNote DAC-5 Signature = $100K
Boulder DAC 2020 = $45K
EMM Labs DAC2X = $15K
...and those are just the 2-channel ones!
But that's beside the point. What I'm wondering is this:
Does the Hilo's ADAT I/O support S/MUX (i.e. 4 channels of 88.2/96K, 2 channels of 176.4/192K)?
Anybody?...Bueller?...
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21st September 2012
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#769 | | Gear maniac
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Originally Posted by digitrax No offense, but you guys aren't even close!
AudioNote DAC-5 Signature = $100K
Boulder DAC 2020 = $45K
EMM Labs DAC2X = $15K
...and those are just the 2-channel ones!
But that's beside the point. What I'm wondering is this:
Does the Hilo's ADAT I/O support S/MUX (i.e. 4 channels of 88.2/96K, 2 channels of 176.4/192K)?
Anybody?...Bueller?... | Wow, i never know about that!
Let me now cheak thouse |
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21st September 2012
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#770 | | Gear nut
Joined: Dec 2008 Location: Europe
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Any news on the firmware update? Someone said mid august, which it apparently wasn´t
Thanks!
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22nd September 2012
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#771 | | Gear maniac
Joined: Apr 2012 Location: planet Earth
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Originally Posted by jbuchholtz Any news on the firmware update? Someone said mid august, which it apparently wasn´t
Thanks! | So u it seems that u did not heared a news that Hilo was discontinued last months so no new os update unfortionaly.
P.s.
Well at list awrybody who parchsed Hilo from Lynx can enjoy so great sounding DACs and headphone amplifier which aperantly new Aurora from Lynx will not have |
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22nd September 2012
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#772 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Nov 2009 Location: Vancouver
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Chilly.. you know when you go to post in the advanced posting screen.. there's a box in the upper right for spellcheck? Use it! lol
And please, I have been curious for a while now.. where do you live? What's your first language?
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22nd September 2012
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#773 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Aug 2005 Location: Nashville
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Please tell me he's joking about this being discontinued...
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22nd September 2012
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#774 | | Gear maniac
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Originally Posted by nms Chilly.. you know when you go to post in the advanced posting screen.. there's a box in the upper right for spellcheck? Use it! lol
And please, I have been curious for a while now.. where do you live? What's your first language? | Hello nms
My first language is Ucranian and Russian  . but i live right now in Canada
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22nd September 2012
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#775 | | Gear nut
Joined: Dec 2008 Location: Europe
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Originally Posted by chilly7 So u it seems that u did not heared a news that Hilo was discontinued last months so no new os update unfortionaly. | Haahaaa ... they give up their cash cow right after some weeks in the market!
Don´t drink an post in a forum |
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22nd September 2012
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#776 | | 3 + infractions, forum membership suspended.
Joined: Feb 2005
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Originally Posted by chilly7 So u it seems that u did not heared a news that Hilo was discontinued last months so no new os update unfortionaly.
P.s.
Well at list awrybody who parchsed Hilo from Lynx can enjoy so great sounding DACs and headphone amplifier which aperantly new Aurora from Lynx will not have  | Chilly, Privet from Manila!
Discontinued?
You are making Ruskie joke, da?
BTW it's called "spellcheck". Look into it. |
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23rd September 2012
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#777 | | Gear maniac
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24th September 2012
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#778 | | Gear addict
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This thread has gone a bit downhill hasn't it. Time for some Hilo talk. I have one and can do nothing but recommend it. The routing options take it to another level as does the sound. The best i can describe the sound is "revealing". I perceive no hype or distortions anywhere. It's so clean and pleasant to hear. It seems I hear the difference in character in my various outboard units better. I can't imagine anyone being disappointed with one of these. Unless you believe in $500 cables or the sonic superiority of XLR over TRS as a balanced connector.
I initially had some problems with it locking to the clock of my Metric Halo interface (via AES/EBU). This was very easily and quickly resolved with a firmware update (for both the Lynx and the MH, so, I don't know exactly who was the culprit). I've had absolutely no hiccups, glitches, noise bursts, or any other unpredictable behavior. Rock solid (and just as heavy). It does get quite warm though, as others have expressed. But it's general and not localized which makes me think it's perfectly normal heat dissipation as it does not have a fan. The touchscreen inspires confidence as it is responsive and feels durable. It would be nice to have frequency spectrum analysis on this screen.
This is a new product, so, nobody can attest to its longevity and long term relevance. But if the weight, feel, and performance are indicators, this is the last converter I'm buying for a long long time.
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24th September 2012
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#779 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Feb 2011 Location: Australia
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The Hilo can be complicated to setup and I've noticed subtle feedback in certain setups, even if there shouldn't be
I have had the best results using different virtual Play and Record pairs, ie use USB 1+2 for play and USB 3+4 for record
ie
Line out - turn on USB Play 1+2,
On the USB record 3+4 screen, turn on Line in only
Then set DAW to record USB record 3+3
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24th September 2012
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#780 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Aug 2005 Location: Nashville
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Originally Posted by chilly7 Hello nms
My first language is Ucranian and Russian  . but i live right now in Canada | KGB
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