17th July 2012
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#451 | | Lives for gear
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17th July 2012
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#452 | | Gear maniac
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Thank u
But we still waiting for a loop back since I failed to do loop back myself  | |
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17th July 2012
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#453 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by chilly7 Thank u
But we still waiting for a loop back since I failed to do loop back myself | Waiting for my XLR cables to arrive, I only have TRS to XLR here | |
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17th July 2012
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#454 | | Gear maniac
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Ok... I believe. I just paid for it and it should be here by Friday. I chose to use a dealer simply because of warranty ( and the current sale price
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17th July 2012
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#456 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by Slug1 Boy this thing gets hot. I didn't know how hot it would run. | I guess a fan pointed to Hilo would help, wouldn´t it?
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17th July 2012
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#457 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by Red Baron Good idea, it should be added to the The Lynx Hilo Wish List/ Feature Request Thread  | Sorry CoolColJ, you had already done it
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17th July 2012
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#458 | | Gear maniac
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Originally Posted by CoolColJ Waiting for my XLR cables to arrive, I only have TRS to XLR here | Ok
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17th July 2012
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#459 | | Gear maniac
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Originally Posted by Red Baron I guess a fan pointed to Hilo would help, wouldn´t it? | While it is true that I cannot keep my finger in stern areas of Hilo and even some parts of the LCD and even the Big knob gets quite hot I do not want fan.
The problem with fan is: that it creates noise which is not good for a music ingeneir.
P.s. it's better to be hot then even slightly noise
Afcause liquid cooling might be a very go solution, but a good liquide cooling is quite expensive , because with an ordinary liquide cooling it is not realiable and it might fail and a small lockage might destroy the entire device
But a good and realiable liquid cooling is not cheap but honestly I would pay any extra for that. The good liquid cooling u can see in some very powerful laptops and in poweful Workstation computers when people need a very powerful cooling but in the same time noiseless
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17th July 2012
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#460 | | Lives for gear
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Just add some heatsink fins onto the case like amps
In any case, I didn't find it all that hot so far, much less than I thought, but it is winter right now...
Even the Saffire gets pretty warm. My old Delta 66 is cold as ice in comparison
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17th July 2012
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#461 | | Lives for gear
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I put up another Saffire vs Hilo comparo
Roland Jupiter 8 arpeggiator with the 12db filter on high resonance, steady and then with filter tweaks. Dual voice stereo mode
HiLo sounds a bit sweeter and fuller to my ears. Saffire more nasal, edgey and scooped Lynx HiLo vs Saffire Pro 24 DSP A/D | |
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17th July 2012
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#462 | | Gear addict
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I find my Hilo gets pretty warm as well, but it is summer here and warmer in the studio than normal too. I don't find it warm enough to worry me, but it's definitely noticeable after it's been on all day.
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17th July 2012
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#463 | | Gear maniac
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Originally Posted by Tarekith I find my Hilo gets pretty warm as well, but it is summer here and warmer in the studio than normal too. I don't find it warm enough to worry me, but it's definitely noticeable after it's been on all day. | I do not know guys about u but in my case if Hilo is not doing anything it is not hot at all and it can work all day and no worries but when it start prosses the sound the in about 15-20 minutes it is literally become hot like a stow.  | |
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17th July 2012
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#464 | | Lives for gear
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lol.. I have to ask.. How does a non-conductive plastic knob get hot Chilly? The front of my unit is never hot. The rest, sure but sometimes you'll find that with gear. Btw, I've always wondered.. where are you from?
@nagual123 - Been busy recording but I'll get your loops up in a bit
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17th July 2012
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#465 | | Gear Head
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chilly's hilo gets hot? am i the only one to see the poetry in that? haha. seriously folks: keep your tube stuff and anything else that gets hot out of the pretty racks. let the stuff breathe. that goes especially for the bedroom recordist living someplace hot. just my 2 cents. (i live in houston. it gets hot here.)
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17th July 2012
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#466 | | Gear maniac
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Originally Posted by nms lol.. I have to ask.. How does a non-conductive plastic knob get hot Chilly? The front of my unit is never hot. The rest, sure but sometimes you'll find that with gear. Btw, I've always wondered.. where are you from?
@nagual123 - Been busy recording but I'll get your loops up in a bit | It is strange, as I seid I do not have monitors at all, I have only my Sanngeizers HD 800. maby because headphone amp when it works it gets hot?
If my Hilo is not prossesing any sound then it is not hot but when it starts prossesing sound then in 15-20 minutes it becomes quit hot and then if it do nothing then it cools down.
Keeping Hilo on does not make it hot, it mast prosses the sound to make it hot.
P.s. just do the test play a cd or any sound source for 20 or more minutes non stop and then see how hot the Hilo is..... 
Also turn the headphone amp at -5db for the test propose even if u do not have headphones
For some reasons even big knob becomes very warm and some parts of lcd quite warm and some parts of the Hilo cannot even keep my finger for to long but honestly it does not bother me to much
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17th July 2012
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#467 | | Lives for gear
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Got my XLR cables - hope the quality is OK, I didn't want to spend mega bucks on these - I got 4 for the price of 2 of the top end ones... and they do have gold plated connectors
Loopbacks to come!
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18th July 2012
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#468 | | Sound Obsession
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Yeyyyyyyyyyyyyyy )))
And 1+ nms
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18th July 2012
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#469 | | Lives for gear
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I put up one of the files you uploaded - loopback of HiLo and Saffire Lynx HiLo vs Saffire Pro 24 DSP A/D
PM me if you can't tell which is which 
To my ears the original has more top end than the loopback. It could be due to filtering that happens at 44.1khz
HiLo seems to adds some warmth and creaminess to the sound. It reminds me of some loopback files I've heard from the Aurora, character wise
I just set input and output to 0db setting and recorded - had to set it up right so no feedback occurs!
WaveLab has a mode where you can record exactly what is played, and automatically starts and stops according to the sound file played, so it should be sample accurate - nice if you want to fiddle with null tests
I'll do a few more
edit - second loopback is up, strings and piano
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18th July 2012
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#470 | | Sound Obsession
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CoolColJ At Last !!! A true hero you are !!
A - sounds more 'open', 'Dynamic' and separated. and as for my ears: sounds closer to the source. (a bit distortion too)
B - is more defined, dense and "sticky", less highs. less close to the source. and less dynamic. It actually sounds compressed.
I guess B is Hilo. I actually like A more than B.
Whats you guys say ?? | |
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18th July 2012
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#471 | | Gear maniac
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Do u awant to try to do the loop back at 24bit 96khz just for the test propose?
It seems even thought that the original sound source is at 16bit 44.1 kHz it seems that Hilo converters works better at 24bit 96khz resolution
P.s. I have noticed that even Hilo loopback does not sound exactly like an origina soursel, but what I might think it might be also the cable , because obviously the cable influence the sound so that's why we do have some degradation of audio....
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18th July 2012
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#472 | | Sound Obsession
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oooops the original file was 24 bits... I didn't notice
But anyway you captured it at the same 24 bits so there not be an issue... | |
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18th July 2012
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#473 | | Sound Obsession
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Also someone mentioned in this post the need to 'burn Hilo in', which means: let Hilo work and play audio continuously for 48 hours or so.
It is controversial but interesting..
CoolColJ have you already 'burned Hilo in' ?
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18th July 2012
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#474 | | Gear maniac
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Originally Posted by nagual123 CoolColJ At Last !!! A true hero you are !!
A - sounds more 'open', 'Dynamic' and separated. and as for my ears: sounds closer to the source. (a bit distortion too)
B - is more defined, dense and "sticky", less highs. less close to the source. and less dynamic. It actually sounds compressed.
I guess B is Hilo. I actually like A more than B.
Whats you guys say ?? | I think awrything in my Senheizers hd800 sound good!!! Ha-ha-ha 
ps. Do not forget that Hilo is the only audio interface on the market which offers so good headphone pre.
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18th July 2012
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#475 | | Gear maniac
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Originally Posted by nagual123 Also someone mentioned in this post the need to 'burn Hilo in', which means: let Hilo work and play audio continuously for 48 hours or so.
It is controversial but interesting..
CoolColJ have you already 'burned Hilo in' ? | I am wondering it too, but nobody did not give a clear answer.
P.s. I know that conventional wisdom says that solid state do not need to burn only tubes but I am not shure if it is true
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18th July 2012
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#476 | | Gear maniac
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Originally Posted by nagual123 oooops the original file was 24 bits... I didn't notice
But anyway Hilo should have catpure it accurately because the file goes analog out and then analog in.
only then back to digital 16bit.
am I right ? | There are setern circumstances when 16 bit audio will indeed sound better if it will be used in 24 bit recording, but it is not easy to explain it for me with my "English" but.
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18th July 2012
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#477 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by nagual123 CoolColJ At Last !!! A true hero you are !!
A - sounds more 'open', 'Dynamic' and separated. and as for my ears: sounds closer to the source. (a bit distortion too)
B - is more defined, dense and "sticky", less highs. less close to the source. and less dynamic. It actually sounds compressed.
I guess B is Hilo. I actually like A more than B.
Whats you guys say ?? | A is actually the Hilo
The HiLo seems to sound warmer/creamier than the original, same character I heard in some Aurora loopbacks, and TBH I'm somewhat disappointed that it is.... but it also sounds good in it's own right, but not what I call "transparent" IMO
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18th July 2012
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#478 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by nagual123 Also someone mentioned in this post the need to 'burn Hilo in', which means: let Hilo work and play audio continuously for 48 hours or so.
It is controversial but interesting..
CoolColJ have you already 'burned Hilo in' ? | No I really haven't burned it in as such. Didn't think AD/DA needed it
I will try some more beaty, bassey and vocally loopback tests and at higher sample sample rates
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18th July 2012
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#479 | | Sound Obsession
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Originally Posted by CoolColJ A is actually the Hilo
IMO | Well CoolColJ you made me a happy man !!
waiting for some more loopbacks )))
Thank you Thank you Thank you
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18th July 2012
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#480 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by nagual123 Well CoolColJ you made me a happy man !!
waiting for some more loopbacks )))
Thank you Thank you Thank you | I put up two more vocally, dancey and bassier tracks
One is from early 90s so less squashed
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