Lynx Hilo Now Available

[jbuchholtz]

However you did it nobody cares
Just stay on topic ... thanks

[Rev. Eslam]

How is discussing a Hilo review in arguably the world's finest audio technology magazine off topic?

Incidentally, if anybody here has a copy of the PDF that they are willing to "loan" me, please PM me. :-)

[jbuchholtz]

Originally Posted by Rev. Eslam

How is discussing a Hilo review in arguably the world's finest audio technology magazine off topic?

Incidentally, if anybody here has a copy of the PDF that they are willing to "loan" me, please PM me. :-)

It is not.
But talking about copyright infringement is!

[Jezzta668]

It costs like $2. Not exactly gonna break the bank. Good article. Good to see the wishlist thread got a mention! Hopefully the criticisms regarding the firmware will boost their efforts towards future updates.

[Category 5]

So how exactly is the Hilo differing from Aurora purely on a converter level. IN other words, say I am just interested in AD/DA and don't care about any other feature of the Hilo (touch screen, monitoring, USB connectivity, etc.). I just need good converters and ADAT or SPDIF i/o. Is the Hilo enough of an improvement in overall sound quality that it's two channels would trump the flexibility of 8 i/o in an Aurora at about the same price?

FWIW, I probably need an Aurora anyway to get my 16 i/o, but will I see enough of an improvement in AD/DA to warrant using a Hilo on top of that as a "golden" channel?

[chilly7]

Originally Posted by Category 5

So how exactly is the Hilo differing from Aurora purely on a converter level. IN other words, say I am just interested in AD/DA and don't care about any other feature of the Hilo (touch screen, monitoring, USB connectivity, etc.). I just need good converters and ADAT or SPDIF i/o. Is the Hilo enough of an improvement in overall sound quality that it's two channels would trump the flexibility of 8 i/o in an Aurora at about the same price?

FWIW, I probably need an Aurora anyway to get my 16 i/o, but will I see enough of an improvement in AD/DA to warrant using a Hilo on top of that as a "golden" channel?

i think Hilo with 16 i/o is Metric Halo ULN8
so if i needed 16 channels i would get Metric Halo ULn 8 but if i need a fwe then Hilo is the best choice and probably right now is the only converter with such the very best converters but with a fwe i/o

p.s.
If Lynx will make a new Aurora with the same quality as Hilo then it will be a good alternative to Metric Halo ULN 8 but for now threre is nothing like it i am aware of

[Category 5]

Originally Posted by chilly7

i think Hilo with 16 i/o is Metric Halo ULN8
so if i needed 16 channels i would get Metric Halo ULn 8 but if i need a fwe then Hilo is the best choice and probably right now is the only converter with such the very best converters but with a fwe i/o

p.s.
If Lynx will make a new Aurora with the same quality as Hilo then it will be a good alternative to Metric Halo ULN 8 but for now threre is nothing like it i am aware of

Yeah, but MH is wicked expensive! Aurora plus golden channel is more realistic, and we all know Aurora is awesome to begin with.

[jbuchholtz]

Originally Posted by Category 5

Is the Hilo enough of an improvement in overall sound quality that it's two channels would trump the flexibility of 8 i/o in an Aurora at about the same price?

My ears say: YES, definetely

You might also take a look at this thread:
Link

[soundslikearecor]

yes.

[chilly7]

Originally Posted by Category 5

Yeah, but MH is wicked expensive! Aurora plus golden channel is more realistic, and we all know Aurora is awesome to begin with.

The same can be seid about Hilo but ones u own it u are not coming back.
it is supper amazing!!!

the same i think with Metric Halo ULN 8 or Lion 8 are worth awry penny u pay for it.... and when u owns it u will never go back. Trust me!

so in conclusion if u need fwe but the very best i/o then Lynx Hilo if u need many but the very best then Metric Halo ULN 8 or LIO 8 or also Prism Orpheus.

right now i need only a fwe i/o and Hilo is perfect for me but when i will need many then most likely i will be looking at Metric Halo or Prism manufactors unlees if a new Lynx Aurora will be the same quality as Hilo then it will be very nice, because after u have so super amazing sound quality with Hilo u do not want something compromised in quality anymore

[CoolColJ]

There is a thread here with some wavs of an Aurora loopback and it doesn't sound much like the source, so the HiLo better be much better since I have one coming

[Jezzta668]

Originally Posted by CoolColJ

There is a thread here with some wavs of an Aurora loopback and it doesn't sound much like the source, so the HiLo better be much better since I have one coming

Congrats! I assume you haven't seen the ultimate loop back converter thread? The Hilo performed better than any other converter in the list and is much more transparent than the Aurora. It's a great unit, its only let down is the current firmware.

It's been a while since the last (and only thus far) update but when I asked on the lynx forum about when we could expect one, the response I received was one of surprise that I think it needs an update. This is a concern because there are so many obvious deficiencies that I would've thought they'd be working hard on getting them fixed. There have already been several forum users who have stated that they won't buy one until its sorted.

If you would like to see certain changes to the Hilo firmware, please jump over to the Lynx Hilo Feature Request/Wishlist Thread and either +1 any existing requests or post a new one.

Thanks.

[CoolColJ]

Originally Posted by Jezzta668

Congrats! I assume you haven't seen the ultimate loop back converter thread? The Hilo performed better than any other converter in the list and is much more transparent than the Aurora. It's a great unit, its only let down is the current firmware.

It's been a while since the last (and only thus far) update but when I asked on the lynx forum about when we could expect one, the response I received was one of surprise that I think it needs an update. This is a concern because there are so many obvious deficiencies that I would've thought they'd be working hard on getting them fixed. There have already been several forum users who have stated that they won't buy one until its sorted.

If you would like to see certain changes to the Hilo firmware, please jump over to the Lynx Hilo Feature Request/Wishlist Thread and either +1 any existing requests or post a new one.

Thanks.

Well for one, didn't they promise ADAT input? Is that in yet, I would hope so.
I believe they put in ADAT output in recently.

I'll wait till the unit gets here before I jump in though

[method1]

Originally Posted by CoolColJ

Well for one, didn't they promise ADAT input? Is that in yet, I would hope so.
I believe they put in ADAT output in recently.

I'll wait till the unit gets here before I jump in though

No ADAT input yet.

[Nathanz]

Originally Posted by Jezzta668

It's been a while since the last (and only thus far) update but when I asked on the lynx forum about when we could expect one, the response I received was one of surprise that I think it needs an update...

From:The Lynx Hilo Wish List/ Feature Request Thread

Originally Posted by Brain.wavs

This thread is great, especially considering we have a responsive person from Lynx involved. Thanks Phil!

Would a peak hold option happen to be part of the new features? If not, I think this would be a great addition to the software.

Originally Posted by pmoon

Yes, that is pretty high on the wish list, should make the next revision. There will be several refinements to the metering in the next rev. As soon as we have a final llist and release date I will post the information. Probably still at least a month away, but you never know.

Phil at Lynx

Seems they are paying attention to the need to address some obvious deficiencies in what is an still an early release. I'll be carefully watching how well they follow through.

[dsonic]

Originally Posted by chilly7

The same can be seid about Hilo but ones u own it u are not coming back.
it is supper amazing!!!

.... and when u owns it u will never go back. Trust me!

if a new Lynx Aurora will be the same quality as Hilo then it will be very nice, because after u have so super amazing sound quality with Hilo u do not want something compromised in quality anymore

Chilly7 is not exagerating here IMO. This is the most natural sounding processor I have ever heard. Musical notes sound like the instruments are in your room.

[Slug1]

Mine arrived yesterday. Waiting on additional gear and will hopefully get things set up over the weekend. Syked!!

[chilly7]

Originally Posted by dsonic

Chilly7 is not exagerating here IMO. This is the most natural sounding processor I have ever heard. Musical notes sound like the instruments are in your room.

+1

[dsonic]

Originally Posted by Slug1

Mine arrived yesterday. Waiting on additional gear and will hopefully get things set up over the weekend. Syked!!

Syke,

I hope you do not make us wait too long.

Dennis

[nms]

This has been the first week using mine. I upgraded from a Lavry DA10 (which I loved) but this is definitely the best sounding converter I've heard and same goes for the headphone output. It's been very smooth sailing so far. The only shocker was realizing that despite all the input & routing options you can only use one set of digital ins at a time. I was hoping to be able to add 4 extra channels of ADC via AES & SPDIF, but it looks like the only way you can add 4 channels is via ADAT which means it must be 4 ch from the same unit. Simultaneous digital ins would be nice especially in a unit with this kind of routing ability. I'm not sure if this is possible in a firmware update but we'll wait for Phil to clarify.

The routing is unlike anything I've seen and has infinite routing & rerouting possibilities. The analog I/O trim selection is impressive with your choice of 8 different settings from +0 to +24. I've been enjoying the fact that although I work at 88khz and listen to music at 44khz, I never have to change the sample rate as it switches to 88 automatically when I'm in Ableton and switches back to 44 when listening to music. The sample rate switching is faster than any interface I've used as is the startup time.

[Rev. Eslam]

So the Martin has arrived already?
In case I am unable to afford the Hilo, do you think it would be possible to get Ross to build something which approximates the Hilo (I. E. Two top-notch AD plus two DA)? I think it would need to use USB as the interface in my case.

I'm VERY curious about the real-world specifications of both units as well as any subjective audio evaluations comparing the two interfaces.

[chilly7]

Originally Posted by Rev. Eslam

So the Martin has arrived already?
In case I am unable to afford the Hilo, do you think it would be possible to get Ross to build something which approximates the Hilo (I. E. Two top-notch AD plus two DA)? I think it would need to use USB as the interface in my case.

I'm VERY curious about the real-world specifications of both units as well as any subjective audio evaluations comparing the two interfaces.

Sorry to hear that!
Did u thought about financing option at ur music store?
This is the way how I got my Hilo and Avalon m5 pre, because I am a not rich student too
I took a 2 year financing.

P.s.
I do not know anything about Ross but u can ask them... I tried to take a quik look in the Internet about that brand but I dd not find any info.
But be aware that unfortionaly today almost awry junk manufactor puts word " professional" on awry crapp they make so please do not come to that trap!

[Red Baron]

I will consider buying Hilo when I see the mono issue is solved, let´s see what the next firmware update will bring.

I also have other converters/interfaces in mind, the competence is strong.

[chilly7]

Originally Posted by Red Baron

I will consider buying Hilo when I see the mono issue is solved, let´s see what the next firmware update will bring.

I also have other converters/interfaces in mind, the competence is strong.

I do not think there is a competence to Lynx Hilo, yes there are high end solutions for many channels audio interfaces such as Metric Halo Uln 8 or Lio 8 or Prism Orpheus but for a two channels high end converter there is no competition at all. Or I do not know something?

[nms]

The Hilo is really unlike anything else on the market. The beauty of it is that you actually get 2 AD/DA plus an additional pair of DACs so you can monitor while running an anlog loop. Add to that an additional 2 DACs for the headphones and having infinite possibilities for routing & mixes on all these individual sets of AD/DA.. with what people keep saying is the best conversion they've heard.. all for under $2500.. it's definitely one of a kind.

[nagual123]

nms It's great to hear that !!!!

could we all hear a full mix loopback by hilo ??

to compare the before and after conversion and see how it actually sounds !??

This is my final barrier before I'm shooting the buck at sweetwater!

thank you.

[dsonic]

If you need an extra pair of ADC or DAC I highly recommend Ross Martin Audio You won't find conversion as good for anywhere near what he charges. Jim Williams tipped me off to his converters and I went for the 2CH ADC for $343 shipped. I'll have RMAA & loopback null test measurements up in the Ultimate Converter Loopback thread later next week sometime.[/QUOTE]

NMS,

Can you give a brief comparison of the DAC sonics of both the Hilo and the Ross Martin?

Dennis

[dsonic]

Originally Posted by Red Baron

I will consider buying Hilo when I see the mono issue is solved, let´s see what the next firmware update will bring.

I also have other converters/interfaces in mind, the competence is strong.

Have you compared the Lynx Hilo sonics to any of the competition? If so, can you describe the differences between them?

Dennis

[soundslikearecor]

i can tell you i like it against my rme stuff. but, then again, i'm not sure that's the competition. the only competition i can think of for this unit is the antelope 384, which is pricey.

[jtwrace]

I have a two part Hilo question.

First, what do you think of it as a dac compared to the MH LIO-8?

Second, has anyone used it for on location recording? If so, any samples that we can listen to? Also, what mic pre did you use?