1928 Scoring Piano

[Silver Sonya]

Nice, unforced tone.

- c

[twinandy]

Very cool, sounds great

[Football]

Holy cow, that is friggin' lovely sounding!

Haven't heard much from hard velocities yet, so not sure how much bite it's capable at those velocities... but overall... wow!

Sonya, how did you hear of this?

[chrisj]

Originally Posted by Football

Holy cow, that is friggin' lovely sounding!

Haven't heard much from hard velocities yet, so not sure how much bite it's capable at those velocities... but overall... wow!

Sonya, how did you hear of this?

Chad seems to know ALL the wonderful things. I know to look at anything he posts because it's going to be worth the look.

I agree- this piano is incredible. I love the character of it, such a strong personality.

[Solar]

Alright, thats it, I want this Piano Lib asap! Great work #8dio Dev. Superb and one of the best piano sounding i've heard in all history of Virtual Piano Sampling up to date! got that feeling, lets see how it works when in use by the user for real but form the Demos, simply wow

[Johnkenn]

So - you have to own Kontakt to run this? The NI Sample Library for $399? Not sure why they would require that...

[Silver Sonya]

Thanks for the kind words!

I'm generally a supporter of all things "artisinal," if you follow me. If I find something cool, I try to let people know about it.

By nature, I am not a secret-keeper. (There's a whole interesting thread about this topic, which I encourage you to join here.)

Re: this piano set: It makes me want to play piano.

That's the highest compliment I can give any instrument. It makes me want to play.

- c

[biomuse]

SS, I'd be interested to hear your comparative opinion on the 1928 vs. the Imperfect Samples Steinway, similarly featured & priced, if you have one. I'm in the process of discernment.

[Danz03]

Mirrorboy has both and has posted some comments here:

Best virtual piano for film scoring?

Originally Posted by biomuse

SS, I'd be interested to hear your comparative opinion on the 1928 vs. the Imperfect Samples Steinway, similarly featured & priced, if you have one. I'm in the process of discernment.

[biomuse]

Is it possible to get a very dry, up close and intimate sound with the 8DIO? All of the demos seem to have a distant, soundtracky politesse to them, which I think is just the style of the demos, but I'd want to be sure of that. Because the in-your-face sound of the ImpSamp Steinway demos is something I'm finding impressive.

How to decide?

[Silver Sonya]

Originally Posted by biomuse

Is it possible to get a very dry, up close and intimate sound with the 8DIO? All of the demos seem to have a distant, soundtracky politesse to them, which I think is just the style of the demos, but I'd want to be sure of that. Because the in-your-face sound of the ImpSamp Steinway demos is something I'm finding impressive.

It's a valid question. Write them and ask.

- c

[Danz03]

I just got the Legacy steinway grand a few hours ago, my initial impression of it is that it has less impact as the IS Walnut Grand. But then I haven't really explored all the different settings and mic perspectives yet. It seems to me though that it sounded more imperfect than imperfect samples' pianos, more of the warts and all factors, whether it's a good thing or not really depends on what you're using it for. I personally think the IS Walnut grand (extreme) is more versatile then the Legacy Steinway grand for non classical music. I will post some demo clips later on.

Originally Posted by biomuse

Is it possible to get a very dry, up close and intimate sound with the 8DIO? All of the demos seem to have a distant, soundtracky politesse to them, which I think is just the style of the demos, but I'd want to be sure of that. Because the in-your-face sound of the ImpSamp Steinway demos is something I'm finding impressive.

How to decide?

[biomuse]

Originally Posted by Danz03

I will post some demo clips later on.

Fantastic.

[Danz03]

Posted some quick sound clips in this thread:

8DIO Legacy 1928 Steinway Grand Piano - Piano World Piano & Digital Piano Forums

I think if you're looking for a very dry, up close and intimate sound, the Imperfect Samples Walnut Grand would be more your cup of tea.

Originally Posted by biomuse

Is it possible to get a very dry, up close and intimate sound with the 8DIO? All of the demos seem to have a distant, soundtracky politesse to them, which I think is just the style of the demos, but I'd want to be sure of that. Because the in-your-face sound of the ImpSamp Steinway demos is something I'm finding impressive.

How to decide?

[Tui]

Originally Posted by Danz03

Posted some quick sound clips in this thread:
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Thanks for this. Did you apply any additional processing, such as EQ or compression?

[Danz03]

Nope, no EQ, no compression, nothing added at all, apart from the preset pedal and FX noises. The Player+Close clip were made with one of the Legacy 1928 Steinway Grand main presets which has the wet sound mixed in.

Originally Posted by Tui

Thanks for this. Did you apply any additional processing, such as EQ or compression?

[Tui]

Cheers.

Strangely, I hear pumping compressor artefacts on all recordings, including the official demos.

[RaySoul]

Originally Posted by biomuse

Is it possible to get a very dry, up close and intimate sound with the 8DIO? All of the demos seem to have a distant, soundtracky politesse to them, which I think is just the style of the demos, but I'd want to be sure of that. Because the in-your-face sound of the ImpSamp Steinway demos is something I'm finding impressive.

How to decide?

Best of it's kind that I've heard...

But check out their other pianos too. I have the Fazioli F278. All of their stuff beats Ivory, or any of the other so-called better piano samples IMHO.

[biomuse]

Originally Posted by Danz03

Posted some quick sound clips in this thread:

8DIO Legacy 1928 Steinway Grand Piano - Piano World Piano & Digital Piano Forums

I think if you're looking for a very dry, up close and intimate sound, the Imperfect Samples Walnut Grand would be more your cup of tea.

Thanks again!

[Tui]

Originally Posted by RaySoul

Best of it's kind that I've heard...

Interesting. How do you find the UVI engine, in terms of efficiency? Are you getting a decent voice-count out of it at low latencies? I found the UVI demo is not so great...

[RaySoul]

Originally Posted by Tui

Interesting. How do you find the UVI engine, in terms of efficiency? Are you getting a decent voice-count out of it at low latencies? I found the UVI demo is not so great...

Yeah, they need to tighten it up a bit. But I'm using PT, so I can say that about a few things(like Kontakt). I usually have to run my sample buffer at 128 to go without issue with it. But fortunately, that doesn't hinder performance. And the Fazioli is really incredible...

[Tui]

Originally Posted by RaySoul

Yeah, they need to tighten it up a bit. But I'm using PT, so I can say that about a few things(like Kontakt). I usually have to run my sample buffer at 128 to go without issue with it. But fortunately, that doesn't hinder performance. And the Fazioli is really incredible...

Can you get 100 voices at 128 latency? That's about the minimum one needs for live performances... (I use Logic).

[RaySoul]

Originally Posted by Tui

Can you get 100 voices at 128 latency? That's about the minimum one needs for live performances... (I use Logic).

That's a good question. You're using Logic so, YMMV. Don't know how much you know about the PT RTAS engine, but, it's not very well-optimized. Logic is much better at handling certain(not all) virtual instruments. I think I'm probably getting in the 60-70 voice range with the aforementioned settings...

[Tui]

Originally Posted by RaySoul

That's a good question. You're using Logic so, YMMV. Don't know how much you know about the PT RTAS engine, but, it's not very well-optimized. Logic is much better at handling certain(not all) virtual instruments. I think I'm probably getting in the 60-70 voice range with the aforementioned settings...

Thanks.

[drBill]

[UPDATE - Sean @ 8DIO handled my problem quicky and accurately. A big DOH! on my part. Didn't install the macintosh drivers correctly - SO - if your plugin looks like the one below, find the MAC installer and run it. You'll be OK. Thanks 8DIO! BTW, the velocity options really smoothed things out for me with my controller. I'm a happy camper now. Back to making music.....]

Anyone else having trouble with this library? I LOVE the demo's and can't get it to sound anything like them. Velocity is way out of wack for my weighted controller, and the GUI is messed up like some kind of buggy glitch. Hosted both in PT and VEP or even standalone is exactly the same - PTHD8.0.4cs2, Snow Leopard. Anyone else? Maybe I need to re-download, but it seemed to go smoothly.....

bp

[drBill]

And another update from me. I'm so excited. Between the "Hard" and "Soft" settings and the customizable velocity curves in the options menu, I've got this piano "speaking" like what I feel a real piano would speak like. A first for any sampled piano library that I've ever owned. Bravo 8DIO!!!

[mirrorboy]

Originally Posted by drBill

And another update from me. I'm so excited. Between the "Hard" and "Soft" settings and the customizable velocity curves in the options menu, I've got this piano "speaking" like what I feel a real piano would speak like. A first for any sampled piano library that I've ever owned. Bravo 8DIO!!!

Hell yes, Bill!!

Glad you're diggin' it and got everything sorted!! I love it too!!

Email me your settings if you get a chance! Would love to know how or what you did to the velocity settings to get them 'playing' how you like.

Cheers,

Scott

[bee]

Originally Posted by chrisj

Chad seems to know ALL the wonderful things. I know to look at anything he posts because it's going to be worth the look.

I agree- this piano is incredible. I love the character of it, such a strong personality.

Ditto! Thanks Chad

[hardwinte]

Oh my, anyone know what reverb is on the site demos? Would be grateful...:-)

[Danz03]

The 1928 Scoring Piano comes with its own convolution reverb.