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| Lives for gear Joined: Jan 2011 Location: Ireland
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Thread Starter | ![]() ![]() At NAMM, Waves Audio is displaying its new InPhase plugin. Designed for recording, mix, mastering and live FOH/monitoring engineers, InPhase has been developed to correct phasing issues between tracks. As many engineers and producers know, phasing problems are encountered during all stages of the production process: In recording, when multiple sources such as microphones and direct signals are used to capture the same sound (e.g., individual drums and drum overheads, guitars recorded using both an amp and DI, amps recorded using multiple mics, etc.). In mixing, when phase issues that were not addressed during the recording process need to be corrected. In mastering, when the stereo mix has phasing issues. Even small timing differences can cause subtle drops in volume as well as reduced punch and clarity. Waves’ InPhase gives users the power to align their tracks and restore phase coherence. The advantages of Waves InPhase are numerous. The plug-in features easy-to-use dual waveform displays with up-to-sample resolution zoom; waveforms can be moved manually along the timeline or align tracks in relation to an external sidechain input; the phase shift curve window shows users the phase shift curve across the frequency line; the correlation meter shows to what extent tracks are in- or out-of-phase; and the plug-in features dual 2nd order allpass filters, mono and stereo components, and dedicated live components. Waves InPhase will be available Q1 2012 with pricing TBA. It is also available at no additional charge to owners of Waves Mercury with current Waves Update Plan coverage. Link : Audio Plugins for Mixing, Mastering & Recording | Waves (website not up dated as yet) |
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| Lives for gear |
THIS can become handy when tracking a WALL of guitar tracks... And ROOM & OH's...
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| Gear maniac Joined: Jul 2011 Location: Berlin, Germany
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Hah, more competition for phase alignment tools, though this one doesn't work automatic. Will keep an eye on it regardless.
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| feelKlang |
Is this an advanced answer of UADs Little Labs® IBP Phase Alignment Tool Plug-In ...
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| Gear maniac |
Interesting...it can be a great tool.
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| Gear addict Joined: Dec 2008 Location: Sydney
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Yep.. This one could potentially be very useful.
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| Lives for gear Joined: Oct 2007
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See, stuff like this is where plugins really shine I think, very good choice from waves | |
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| Lives for gear Joined: May 2003 Location: Chicago
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Sold. |
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| Gear addict Joined: Jan 2009
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And it even has faux screen glare!
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| Gear maniac Joined: Oct 2005 Location: NY
Posts: 176
| Compared to the UAD plugin, I love the way the Waves one gives you a visual indication of both waveforms. What I'm wondering though is does the waves one give you full control over the phase from 0-180 degrees, or is this just a delay with visual feedback inside the plugin? I don't really fully understand what this plugin does maybe. I remember Tritone Digital had a phase plugin that adjusted phase based on frequency. Looking at the interface, is the concept closer to that? I'm definitely intrigued by the interface.
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| Gear Head Joined: Jan 2010
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I know zero latency is a big problem for phase shift stuff - is there such a tool that works even half as well that I could use for live concerts/broadcasts (apart from the obvious but expensive hardware IBP)?
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| Gear addict |
La-ti-da-li-la.. yeah!!!! It all happens at the right moment before my WUP ends. Have been waiting for this kinda plugin from Waves!!!
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| feelKlang | Quote:
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| Lives for gear |
A good idea... and for the noobs: this plugin won't help you to align more than TWO channels in a multitrack, as phase (in the real world) is more than a time base, because how reflections combine with the signals is dependent on the actual position in the room and relative to other mics and THAT can't be 100% fixed after the fact.
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| PC Moderator |
Someone prepared George with ears. It's called audio engineering... What's missing is an automix plugin so we can concentrate on our other hobbies. Sent from my GT-I9100 using Gearslutz.com
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| Gear maniac Joined: Jan 2009 Location: Argentina
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| Don't worry my friend, even this plugin is useless in the hands of the ignorant.
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| Gear interested Joined: Jun 2011
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melda autoalign, rules
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| PC Moderator |
I do not worry. My point is, that someone wants to make money with a product nobody needs if you get your knowledge level adjusted. Sent from my GT-I9100 using Gearslutz.com |
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| Gear addict Joined: Dec 2008 Location: Sydney
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Such is this day and age of "U 2 can B A Producer!"
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| Gear maniac Joined: Oct 2005 Location: NY
Posts: 176
| Nobody technically needs spectrum analyzers or graphic displays on equalizers either. That doesn't make them useless. I think some sort of visual feedback of phase between two signals is a good idea. If the Waves plugin is just showing the delay between the two signals and giving you visual feedback of time-aligning the two waveforms, then it is useless.
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| Gear maniac Joined: Nov 2008 Location: Croatia
Posts: 233
| amen to this. I mean - It's been a while since these came out and were heavily advertized here (it seems many people here ignore plugs that aren't made by Waves, sigh...): Auto-Align: The Automatic Phase Alignment Plug-in MeldaProduction MAutoAlign, automatic microphone delay compensation |
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| Gear maniac Joined: Nov 2008 Location: Croatia
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I think a distinction should be made between fully automatic phase adjustment tools (such as those I listed) which are meant to be used for multi mic recording alignments and, on the other hand, manual phase adjustment tools, such as the UAD LittleLabs one, Voxengo PHA979 or Sonitus FX:phase (which also allow for in-between phase tweaks and can be used for all kinds of phase adjustments in the mix). | |
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| Gear addict Joined: Jan 2007
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| sorry but I do not think you can be able to adjust 10 ms during recording with your ear and mic placement...... multiply that by 10 tracks!
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| Gear Head Joined: Aug 2009 Location: Vienna, Austria
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| it´s not about time alignment, it´s about phase, there´s no need to align all tracks as long it sound good. And that´s a matter of micing!
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| 70% coffee & 30% beer Joined: Dec 2006 Location: Quincy, MA
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| Waves InPhase
"Because Shift Happens"... someone give the marketing department a cookie.... Phase Correction Plugin – InPhase | Waves
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| Gear maniac Joined: Jun 2009
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looks rather useful are there any other plugins that do similar things to this? |
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| | #29 |
| Lives for gear Joined: Dec 2006 Location: Nashville
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| Gear maniac Joined: Jun 2009
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cheers! the waves one looks a lot easier to use and more efficient though, plus doesnt need an external card. they are also the same price right now with that waves february sale |
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