Though, they did lead off with, "To us it just looked liked a tricked out Argosy with Euph. controllers, so we couldn't figure out what Slate was doing."
such is the danger of not communicating efficiently! Slates company is excellent with great products - but all too often the communication to the market doesn't really tell us what things are!!
Can't we all just agree to be happy that someone is finally MAKING the thing?
We dreamed and dreamed years ago, but nothing was done about it. Steven has simply taken all of the previous ideas and added a TON of his own with his team. We're all going to benefit here. The whole point of that thread years ago was to design the dream desk for a modern day DAW... I'm pretty sure someone like Steven Slate has the capability to do just that... so how about instead of accusing the guy of ripping off some sketch designs (of essentially an Argosy desk and a couple Euphonix/Avid controllers), we celebrate and offer generous support and feedback so that this dream can finally happen.
It's been a known fact that this market is in desperate need for a control surface "C-24 like" but keeping the analog old school desk feel, for the semi pro home studio. 32 channels is great. This is a market that Allen & Heath tried to tap into with the GSR-24, but I think this design is truly spot on for the future.
My one request is that it be considered to make room for dual monitors. I'm sorry but I've been mixing for SO LONG on dual monitors that I can't even imagine the thought of not having both my mix and edit windows on their own monitor. In fact, I use 2 24" monitors now, so I'm not sure that could be considered. If it makes the desk too wide, I don't even care. Go to a big time studio... you can't reach all the faders. You're not supposed to be able to. I'd rather the desk be bigger yet have dual monitors. But that's just me.
Anyway, looking forward to this very much! Funny because I've actually been considering the GSR-24 for a while now but I think I'm going to hold off. I just need to sell all my analog boards and make a budget to afford this thing.
Very well knowing that what I am about to post offers nothing constructive to this thread, and that it maybe offend one or two of you.......
I stood near "Steven Slate" (I think its his given name) at the NAMM show and listened to him speak.
I was SHOCKED to learn that, the voice in the videos on the slate digital website are all 100% authentic Steven Slate.... I was stunned!!!!
I thought the voices on those videos were pitched, robo-fied, sub-harmonized... But No! This man has the deep, thick, gritty voice of a male Adonis.....
And that alone is why Steven Slate's Raven desk is awesome...
Furthermore, congrats to the Slate Team, their Namm booth was just JAMMED all week. I was lucky enough to be within ear shot and hear what was going on, because actually touching the desk was just impossible. I passed by the booth at least 7-8 times..... JAMMED!!!
I stood near "Steven Slate" (I think its his given name) at the NAMM show and listened to him speak.
I was SHOCKED to learn that, the voice in the videos on the slate digital website are all 100% authentic Steven Slate.... I was stunned!!!!
I thought the voices on those videos were pitched, robo-fied, sub-harmonized... But No! This man has the deep, thick, gritty voice of a male Adonis.....
I saw the picture first here, and then walked by the Slate booth. I didn't talk to anyone there. I'm sorry it wasn't that obvious to you.
To be fair, people's perception of the product is likely based on what they wanted to see or expected. I saw the picture, recognized that it's an Argosy desk and Euphonix controllers with a couple stacks of Slate comps and pres on the sides, so the remaining centrepiece must be the new Slate product in situ.
If you didn't recognize the Argosy or Euphonix components, then I do understand how one might think the whole ensemble was the product. I was talking with some of the pro audio guys at the local dealer this morning and mentioned I'd seen the Raven at NAMM and they had had the same idea of many here, that the whole ensemble was the Raven. Though, they did lead off with, "To us it just looked liked a tricked out Argosy with Euph. controllers, so we couldn't figure out what Slate was doing."
I recognized the components, it was his comments about being a third party re-seller for avid and argosy that sparked my confusion (aka everything came with it and they were just a third party reseller)
I recognized the components, it was his comments about being a third party re-seller for avid and argosy that sparked my confusion (aka everything came with it and they were just a third party reseller)
Ah, see, that's what I thought made things clear.
Makes sense that they'd be resellers. If you wanted to purchase a big desk setup, they could put together a working and tested package. Less uncertainty, lead time to commission, made to order. This isn't so unlike the days when you'd order a build-in console and configure your fader packs, your patchbays, automation and monitoring section, bridge and trim. The supplying manufacturer only really built the mixer parts and assembled it for you.
Anyway, you didn't have to get specifically derisive.
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Very well knowing that what I am about to post offers nothing constructive to this thread, and that it maybe offend one or two of you.......
I stood near "Steven Slate" (I think its his given name) at the NAMM show and listened to him speak.
I was SHOCKED to learn that, the voice in the videos on the slate digital website are all 100% authentic Steven Slate.... I was stunned!!!!
I thought the voices on those videos were pitched, robo-fied, sub-harmonized... But No! This man has the deep, thick, gritty voice of a male Adonis.....
Ha...if you thought hearing him speak was cool, check out the last minute or so of this video!
Steve, can you create a sliding shelf that would hold an 88-not keyboard controller underneath? That and dual 27" monitors would a be dream setup.
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you should've put a fader section into the middle of the console so you're not always forced to move out of the sweet spot for balancing...
apart from that: k to the iller
Totally agree, its been implemented. The new design is really fantastic, and there are quite a bit of other new ideas in the works. I can't wait to run a session with this console. It's gonna be slick!
Totally agree, its been implemented. The new design is really fantastic, and there are quite a bit of other new ideas in the works. I can't wait to run a session with this console. It's gonna be slick!
Cheers,
Steven
I dig the ideas. I can firmly say it wont be in my budget in 2012, but it would solve a lot of my work flow issues too, and just look awesome too :P
Which is important. Depending how this year goes I'd be thinking about it seriously in 2013.
My two big issues in the studio at the moment are: Reliable interface. Reliable effective monitoring. I'm sick of "making do" and finding workarounds.
However how would you accommodate people that have their screen low and at an angle? I hate looking up to where the phantom image seems to be "coming from" and seeing a DAW with pretty colours and lights!
Since I put my screen down low I don't have to keep turning it off to really listen to a mix properly. It's pretty crucial for me now.
Steve, can you create a sliding shelf that would hold an 88-not keyboard controller underneath? That and dual 27" monitors would a be dream setup.
If he does...will you promise to read a little closer? From a couple posts above yours...AND from the very source...
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Originally Posted by Steven Slate
We have nearly completely the redesign of the Raven X1, and it incorporates so many user requests including:
having the faders, mouse, keyboard, display, talkback, main volume, speaker selection, source selection all in the "hot zone"
having dual monitors, even dual 27"s
having custom configurations for composers with midi keyboard controllers...
Cheers,
Steven
I kid mofo...had a long day where people just weren't paying attention to detail, and it cost me time, effort and unnecessary frustration. Chillin' with a beer, and now this!
If something could be added to the surface material of the desk that would reduce comb filtering drastically, I would buy this for my tracking room in a heartbeat
If he does...will you promise to read a little closer? From a couple posts above yours...AND from the very source...
I kid mofo...had a long day where people just weren't paying attention to detail, and it cost me time, effort and unnecessary frustration. Chillin' with a beer, and now this!
DOH!!!! I have to start reading the entire thread before posting. Good news, though, on those options.
The mention of 'console' in the thread title is misleading. It took me a couple of days to finally figure out that this is not a new console design, but a controller with monitoring. It is a DAW controlling desk, but not a console, per say.
AW: Steven Slate debuts The RAVEN X1 Production Console
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The mention of 'console' in the thread title is misleading. It took me a couple of days to finally figure out that this is not a new console design, but a controller with monitoring. It is a DAW controlling desk, but not a console, per say.
That should have been spelled out up front.
Steven Slate claims his plugins perfectly emulate a console. With the argosy dedk + faderpack he claims that you (and I) don't need a console anymore. We can buy his stuff and feel totally happy till the end of our days.
About the "console".
Not having hardware control for plugins is just plain unforgivable.
Ipad/touch control for plugins is idiotic and my guess is that we will look back at it as the eighties for daw controlling.
As I see it it contradicts the whole concept of needing external plugin control..
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