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| Harrison Consoles Joined: Mar 2007 Location: Nashville, TN
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Thread Starter | Harrison Mixbus is now available for Windows, OS X, and Linux. Mixbus is a full-featured Digital Audio Workstation (DAW) with "True Analog Mixing": a combination of Harrison's world-renowned sound and features in an affordable, knob-per-function interface. Mixbus provides professional-level features to import or record an unlimited number of audio tracks to your computer, edit them, and mix them together. You can use Mixbus to record your band, mix a record, make a podcast, or edit the audio for your video. What is different about Mixbus?
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Price: $219 Available for Windows XP Pro and later. Try the free demo at: Harrison Mixbus Best Regards, Press Desk Harrison Consoles |
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| Lives for gear Joined: Jul 2005 Location: Canada/Mexico
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Now we're talking! Thanx @Harrison for making this happen for Windows users. Thank you for listening ![]() Gonna grab the Demo now
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| Lives for gear Joined: Jun 2006
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Hmmm, i have not kept up with the development of Mixbus since it came out ,well mostly because i don't have a Mac, i knew Ardour was OSX, so now it's compatible with Windows ?
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| Gear maniac Joined: Jul 2011 Location: Berlin, Germany
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Finally! But the price is still a joke considering the issues I've read about (and experienced myself) and remembering the fact that ARDUR was once open source. Release the Harrison plugins in native format already! There are plenty of tutorials available on how to use these plugins properly. Just read the Skip Burrows thread here on GS. This would boost your sales just as much compared to releasing a dedicated DAW that tries so hard to copy ProTools as best as possible. r
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| Gear interested Joined: Jan 2012
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Jack is giving me a headache .. rewire native vst ARA much better |
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| Lives for gear |
So it's ASIO-based on Windows? The price is a bit steep I'd say (Ardour open source-based)
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| Gear maniac Joined: May 2009
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a serious DAW that runs under Linux - fantastic! I've been waiting for this a long time. hope the community catches up and drivers will be available for common interfaces, so one can acutally work under Linux. However: no midi support? deal breaker for me. Although most of my work is recording, some midi work with strings etc is often needed. also, the price is a bit steep considering it's based on open source software and lacks vital features. |
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| Lives for gear Joined: Dec 2006 Location: Germany
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Does anyone know if it's possible to "insert" hardware (like in CUbase/PT) with full delay compensation? I figure it is but I thought I'd ask first. DW
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| Lives for gear Joined: Jul 2008 Location: Dublin , Ireland
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no rewire support? how do i route tracks from another DAW into it on a PC?
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| Gear addict Joined: May 2009 Location: London
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Mixbus on Windows? Oh I just wet my pants. MUMMY!
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| Lives for gear |
When there is no midi on the pc, are remote controll options hidden? Hmm at 2000 samples of buffer it aint sunshine here.
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| Gear Head Joined: Oct 2010 Location: Westside of Germany NRW
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looks and sounds exiting...but 1: Possible to Add VST plug ins?? ![]() 2: Does the Harrison Channel strip sounds as good (or better) then the Waves SSL 4000 plug in cause the biggest headache in other DAWs to me is add an SSL on each channel, and still the Plug in looks to big..I allready got 2 Screens ( i can overview a max of 10 SSL)..i figured out the most important thing is to have a good Overview about my MIX..and when the harrsion channel sound good, i would get a way bigger overview cause its allready on each channel (and not as big as the ssl).. hope someone can answer those 2 questions.. i would even pay 300$ if the answer is yes seriously..cause the benefit would be great..
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| Gear maniac Joined: Jul 2011 Location: Berlin, Germany
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To my understanding, Harrison MixBus offers no VST/AU connection. It's an all in one solution copied from ProTools, only that you have a full working Harrison Console within one DAW environment (in this case ARDUR). The things that really annoy me are: - it's darn slow and buggy - it's "locked" - it's built around an open source host and gets pricier with every update I haven't played long with it, but this smacked clearly into my face. Basically what Harrison does here is with nowadays console emulation plugins. But instead of loading it on insert 1 and therefore eating one insert slot, the whole DAW is the console (along with compression and EQ). Much like Record/Reason 6, or PT10's new concept. They price would be worth it, if it's available as VST set, or if they'd allow rewire and other VST plugins. Else it's just a pricey DAW that still needs good ADC/DAC's and lacks behind in features. Unless you're totally into that (old console in pure software form). Reminds me a bit of the try with XTsoftware to bundle eXT with Behringer mixing consoles. But hey, there's hope for a port if it's Windows now as well. I guess the thanks for the port go to the nice open source people in this case. |
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| Lives for gear Joined: Nov 2009 Location: London
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| Lives for gear Joined: Jul 2005 Location: Canada/Mexico
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Something weird happened, I downloaded the DEMO yesterday and installed the Windows x32 bit version in my laptop (and from what I read, the JACK extension or protocol gets installed automatically for windows right)? Well guess what? When I launch Mixbuss, and select the automatic Audio port of my laptop, Mixbuss comes out with an error saying ![]() Then I went and download JACK manually installed it and restarted my laptop and nada. Anyone know how to fix this so I can give this a proper try. And while at it, as I mentioned in another thread, I hope Dev will consider taking out the "Noise" in the limitation Demo version. Simply hate these kind of "noise" protection stuff. Don't see the reason why, I mean almost every major DAW out there let you TRY their DAW without as limitation a "noise". Find something else but not the annoying "noise" or plain leave it for the user to Try it for whatever days 14 or 30 days. Thanx |
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| Gear maniac Joined: Feb 2011
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ASIO4ALL - Universal ASIO Driver And then when launching Mixbus choose Asio and ASIO4ALL as audio card. It should work.
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| Gear maniac Joined: Feb 2010 Location: Helsingborg
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| Lives for gear Joined: Jul 2008 Location: Dublin , Ireland
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| Gear maniac Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 259
| I tried to do it with Jack (not the one that came with Mixbus) with no success so far. Download from Using JACK on Windows | JACK In order to use it with Mixbus you have to run this Jack server first and then launch Mixbus (it will detect an already running Jack server). Note that this is not supported by Harrison in any way! I had no success with Ableton. It doesn't detect Jack. |
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| Lives for gear Joined: Jul 2005 Location: Canada/Mexico
Posts: 1,887
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I found that out by running the .exe app called : MSVCtest_app.exe that you find inside your Mixbus install folder. So make sure And what happened is that I wanted to try it and installed it in old PC and laptop. But now gonna go and install it in my MAIN Monster beast PC and lets hope it will work and that I won't have to to JACK website to download the Windows drivers. | |
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| Gear maniac Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 259
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But it works pretty straight forward. No need to worry about Jack, unless you want to "rewire" two aplications, wich i wasn't able to achieve yet... | |
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| Lives for gear Joined: Jul 2008 Location: Dublin , Ireland
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feck that, ive just ran a file thru mixbus and the same file in reaper with VCC, decapitator and UAD studer and it sounds better to me in reaper with the plugins.
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| Lives for gear Joined: Jul 2005 Location: Canada/Mexico
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Alright folks! First yes thanx @scalawag for the confirmation indeed. Now the real first test, installed it in my Monster i7 system and it started right away without any issue. Now the first TEST I do with a DAW is drag and drop Audio files in it. And to start with and I'm going to be very honest here, the LOADING TIME is RIDICULOUS LONG. I don't know those who have been using Mixbus how they have been dealing with and how come the Dev Team of Mixbus haven't figured out to enhance this. Check this out: I took 8 Wave files 24 bit 44.1k and drag them in Mixbus. Chrono time came to that I dragged them at 9h 32 AM and those 8 tracks finished at 9h 35 & 30 second. Thats in todays 2012 is completely UN-Acceptable. When the same amount of files if I drag them in Reaper, it would take me max 30 second. Right there, something is wrong and not well coded and just imagine, having a Client and he give you some files to load up and what, you go and start taking a cofee? I mean used them all, PTools, Reaper, Cubendo, Studio One etc.. and I think Mixbus Wins on the "Too much time on loading Files" Please if other can give just "drag and drop" files, I mean Wave files Stems of a song in and report back and tell me how you feel about it. Gonna continue to hear what this Mixbus is all about in terms of Analog sound but already just with the loading time, for me its a TURN OFF. Sorry but gotta be honest Will report more, Happy testing |
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| Gear maniac Joined: Jul 2011 Location: Berlin, Germany
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I can confirm the long loading times on Mac as well (the only real time I used it). It was a 32 track project and after 10 minutes we had to shut down the task in order to get working again.
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| Gear addict Joined: Apr 2005
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Hi guys, regarding the "slow import times": 1) Mixbus uses a very high-quality resampling algoriithm (one of the best available, actually, in this comparison SRC Comparisons see Secret Rabbit Code ). If you are importing a sessions-worth of files to mix, make sure that you create the session ( in Audio Setup ) with the same sample rate so it doesn't have to rate-convert. That will save some time. 2) We just verified that importing is about 8x slower on Windows than it is on Linux. Shame on us for not noticing this in the release version. We will check it out! Best Regards, Ben Loftis Harrison Consoles Last edited by BenLoftis; 20th January 2012 at 03:17 PM.. Reason: oops, an option is missing :) |
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| Gear nut Joined: Apr 2008
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Tried the Windows version. I couldn't find an option to point to scan certain vst folders. It only found one (Cakewalk) which I don't use.
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| Lives for gear Joined: Jul 2005 Location: Canada/Mexico
Posts: 1,887
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Thanx Ben for clearing this up because honestly I was starting to be really disappointed with just the Loading time. Gonna try this. Also, I think you guys need to do some Youtube Easy to watch Tutorials available for users who will join or would like to buy your product because i don't find it quite interesting to have to go to Buy a software with a "noise" as limitation and second, NO available Youtube Quick Tutorials to let you see how you set it up etc... but instead its like you have to BUY even the Tutorial before evening getting to know a bit how the DAW handles and work! I myself don't find that fair at all especially when looking at the Competition out there. I can understand that Mixbus might have something unique that other DAW are not offering but i've looked yesterday over the internet and youtube and haven't seen a user posting something bout how the DAW works etc... but a strict minimum showing the Basic things just like the other DAW companies are doing is A MUST because when you open Mixbus, even look like any other DAW but the approach is a bit different. Just my 2 cents Last and quickly, how do you change the TEMPO in this DAW, I doubled click on the tempo, roll up and down the mouse to change the tempo and NADA. Thanx again for always responding to us ![]() P.S And also, there is a problem with how Mixbus resizes windows and does NOT remember how you resize your windows. Example, when I hit Alt+M to show up the mixer and place it in the middle of my screen, when I quit Mixbus and restart the project back and Hit AltM, the Mixer goes up under my Windows Taskbar (because my Windows taskbar i put it above instead of below) and its kinda frustrating? Does Mixbuss recalls how you setup you windows? If not, that need to be checked out | |
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| Gear maniac Joined: Mar 2010
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| Lives for gear |
What a mess
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| Gear addict Joined: Apr 2005
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| Right-click on the tempo marker to edit it. Right-click in the tempo "lane" to make a new tempo or meter marker. Note that there are no MIDI instruments, so tempo is only useful for (a) recording to a click and (b) using it for the editing "grid". Best, Ben Loftis Harrison Consoles |
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