Better question is what are you hyperventilating about ?
The Intel rep barely managed to get a word in, and nothing was confirmed on that video about a joint development of the controller !
You're so high on the vapour its further blurring your pin width view.
Go back to the Zombie Comics, its more your level.. !
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Don't get sucked in. Tafkat is anit-Thunderbolt and still mad at apple for a year of exclusivity. He constantly rails about it in many, many threads.
Yeh you got me, Apples year of exclusivity has been so beneficial for all involved , and TB has been so influential that I am seething at missing out on the game change.
Buy it... Don't buy it... It's up to you. But if your going to talk about it, be about it. And no, I don't think because a "big record" is recorded/mixed with the Apollo, people will be able to get the same results. Everyones ears and engineering skills are different... But it seems like some of the people on this site base their purchases off of some one else's accomplishments on that piece of gear instead of just taking a gamble to see for them selves. And theres also people that apparently rely more on their gear and room more then their drive and skills on here. Not saying you, but it's apparent in some of the comments posted on this site. If the shoe doesn't fit.... But you do sound obsessed with "treatment" though... LoL... I'll pull out my old G4 and digi001 from the closet in my bedroom and still get a good mix... That's how confident I am in my skills! My studio sounds better then a lot of studios I've been to. Them songs/mixes that you said sound good where mixed in that room that for some reason you think needs a bunch of treatment. If you owned all of those pieces, then that's what's up brother... I own the Apollo now (just hasn't been shipped to me yet ) If I had all them pieces you say you owned I would still own them. They're all keepers! I'll have an extra quad Satellite with ALL of the UAD plugins to go along with my Apollo quad in 2 weeks and if you did your research then you know about the power & quality of UAD plugins.... I'll fill you in on the Apollo!
I'm more worried about if when I experiment with different plugins like the SSL or Neve plugins to track, can I get that tone you would get tracking through one of those boards (which I've heard both in person before) by just having the plugins on the track flat (maybe some tweaking). If you can...
Am I the only one who thinks the Apollo is too big?
I love the idea, but it's sized to go on a rack in studios where we already have big powerful computers. It also strikes me that people needing something with as much I/O as the Apollo likely already have lots of quality outboard gear which makes me further question that the Apollo is too big.
I'd like to see one that is Duet or Mbox sized so that we can use them in a mobile rig with laptops (especially Macbook Air!) Seems like the smaller laptops are what would benefit MOST from the onboard DSP processing. This would be incredibly beneficial to the project studio/singer songwriter crowd who is actually on a budget and looking for bang for the buck studio tools.
I'd love to see preamp modeling too ala Liquid Channel or Metric Halo Character.
A smaller Apollo ala ICARUS? would be amazing for a small portable rig where lots of guys like me are looking for one great interface and one great mic to do the job.
Funny, I actually thought the opposite about size - I thought, with UA's analog heritage, that a 2RU box would seem more "legit" but I see what you're saying.
In regards to the TB card... strikes me a little odd that it "was" co-developed with Intel but then there is no set date for release or price... like maybe it's more "being" developed with Intel as opposed to already done? Just would make me a little nervous if I was counting on TB but I think this early in the crossover few of us would be.
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Funny, I actually thought the opposite about size - I thought, with UA's analog heritage, that a 2RU box would seem more "legit" but I see what you're saying.
In regards to the TB card... strikes me a little odd that it "was" co-developed with Intel but then there is no set date for release or price... like maybe it's more "being" developed with Intel as opposed to already done? Just would make me a little nervous if I was counting on TB but I think this early in the crossover few of us would be.
How about a 2u 24in 24out, featuring 4 headphone outs? Option of straight line input with AD conversion or AES digital in / out, bring your own converters...
A super mobile 2in 2out would be good for some people I'm sure, but personally I'm interested in the bigger picture. 2 Apollos pretty much gets me where I want when daisy chains can eventually happen..
I was told "this is the FIRST interface" as in there will be more...
Maybe even one with moving faders????
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I know I'd pay $1000-1500 for a 2 preamp mobile unit to use with a Macbook Air. I want Thunderbolt though to leave the USB ports open for a keyboard and external HD. Im curious as to what the TB expansion will cost on the Apollo. UA will really be pulling the wool over our heads if it really is $500 for that upgrade.
I was told "this is the FIRST interface" as in there will be more...
Maybe even one with moving faders????
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Yes, please someone do this... mixer / controller version of Apollo, ULN8, UFX, would be my dream. In this case, smaller is better, something like 8-12 + 1 faders. About 4 aux sends, built in monitor controller with talkback...
I just picked up my Apollo from the store, so this Hoodie Guy came up to me sportin' a 44 magnum, and said "Make My Day". I said I gotta Appolo, and he says, man I'm not going to da moon. I said "Well you could if you had da Apollo!". So he snatched it from my greasy hands and took off flight. It was amazin' to watch, with the Apollo in hand he shot into the sky and lighting bolts shot from the Thunderbolt port. Man, I wish I had a video camera.
Wow, dat Apollo is sum magic shdt!
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Better question is what are you hyperventilating about ?
The Intel rep barely managed to get a word in, and nothing was confirmed on that video about a joint development of the controller !
You're so high on the vapour its further blurring your pin width view.
Go back to the Zombie Comics, its more your level.. !
Yeh you got me, Apples year of exclusivity has been so beneficial for all involved , and TB has been so influential that I am seething at missing out on the game change.
SMH! Your delirious from the vapors coming from the BS your talking! My level is not being a little "biotch" and complaining, crying and negatively speculating on something I don't know nothing about and don't plan on buying at all. My level is taking gambles with gear even if it's new and nothing is known about it to try and get the best sound for my music and the artists I work with. Cry babies like you will never reach A LEVEL let alone my level! Why would a top executive for Intel talk at all let a lone for a few minutes at the Universal Audio booth for the Apollo about Thunderbolt? And did you not read the quote directly from Universal Audio which said "To be 100% clear, Apollo's Thunderbolt I/O card was co-developed with Intel, and is absolutely providing "true" Thunderbolt.". Your that much in denial huh? It's obvious my level is far above your stupid a... Keep crying and speculating like a woman in denial. I'll give you something to cry more about in 2 weeks when I get my Apollo... Here's something to listen to until then...
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Why would a top executive for Intel talk at all let a lone for a few minutes at the Universal Audio booth for the Apollo about Thunderbolt? And did you not read the quote directly from Universal Audio which said "To be 100% clear, Apollo's Thunderbolt I/O card was co-developed with Intel, and is absolutely providing "true" Thunderbolt.".
Go back and read my posts again you hyperventilating twit , I never mentioned anything about doubting that the UA controller was anything but a true TB interconnect, in fact I clearly stated they wouldn't be that stupid to provide otherwise, so point your infantile froth elsewhere.
Also anyone developing for TB has to directly liaise with Intel's development team as Intel are providing the chip , that doesn't guarantee squat in regards to performance for Pro Audio.
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I'll give you something to cry more about in 2 weeks when I get my Apollo
So you going to have that TB card slotted in and ready to roll ?
Hey, I think the speculation machine needs a nap. Whether on either side of the boundaries for or against, ua, other folks on this forum, or what else you are seeing as an enemy it's probably best to take a nap and talk about this when fully rested. Perhaps then we will make better judgments and stop playing ego size games.
Because this probably won't happen those of us who agree and want to engage a dialogue that helps us, we will need to start a new forum when we get ours hands and ears to work with the apollo so we can make honest criticisms and praise when it's deserved.
Also I posted on ua's Facebook saying that there has been a lot of talk about the converters in the Apollo describing it as having the same converters as other products of theirs and asking them to let us know if thats true and if so which one, and if not how they are similar and different. The question was shortly thereafter deleted. :(
I find it very sad for all the previous contributors who actually brought something to this thread because their posts containing most answers to all those simple technical inquiries are buried under 30 pages of redundant crap.
I'd love to see a smaller version (Duo perhaps) for a more mobile market. I just got a 13" MBP, and am bummed that so far the Apollo is the only TB interface that we know is coming.
After reading recent posts from BLA's Facebook page, it seems THEY are the first to be developing a "true" TB port interface. Reports say that everyone else in development is somehow working a FW/USB work around to make it happen.
So far the RME UCX looks like the perfect mobile interface with a couple of things that I would have rather changed. (completely personal taste versus market need/want)
Those being that I wished it had USB and FW800 instead of FW400. Having discrete outputs for outputs 7-8 rather than a combined HP out. Dual headphone outs. Replace the RME DSP/mixer with UAD-2 Apollo DSP/mixer, and the addition of Timecode I/O would be the cherry on top.
I happen to work in a lot of different capacities (mobile band tracking/mixing, location film audio, live sound, and corporate A/V). So, I understand that a product combining the features of the Apollo and UCX is a stretch. Especially since, timecode is only an option for RME's Fireface800. It would be sweet.
Given the option to make use of the iPad(s) with controller software, recording software, and RTA apps. The future is looking bright.
I'd love to see a smaller version (Duo perhaps) for a more mobile market. I just got a 13" MBP, and am bummed that so far the Apollo is the only TB interface that we know is coming.
After reading recent posts from BLA's Facebook page, it seems THEY are the first to be developing a "true" TB port interface. Reports say that everyone else in development is somehow working a FW/USB work around to make it happen.
So far the RME UCX looks like the perfect mobile interface with a couple of things that I would have rather changed. (completely personal taste versus market need/want)
Those being that I wished it had USB and FW800 instead of FW400. Having discrete outputs for outputs 7-8 rather than a combined HP out. Dual headphone outs. Replace the RME DSP/mixer with UAD-2 Apollo DSP/mixer, and the addition of Timecode I/O would be the cherry on top.
I happen to work in a lot of different capacities (mobile band tracking/mixing, location film audio, live sound, and corporate A/V). So, I understand that a product combining the features of the Apollo and UCX is a stretch. Especially since, timecode is only an option for RME's Fireface800. It would be sweet.
Given the option to make use of the iPad(s) with controller software, recording software, and RTA apps. The future is looking bright.
Just dreaming!
The BLA marketing spiel has been proved an absolute outright lie. Read back a few..
Sorry if this was covered, I have only read 20 pages of this thread. If you use the Apollo on multiple computers, do the plugs follow the Apollo? Like my main computer and then on the laptop?
Sorry if this was covered, I have only read 20 pages of this thread. If you use the Apollo on multiple computers, do the plugs follow the Apollo? Like my main computer and then on the laptop?
Yes and that goes for any UAD-2 device. All UAD plug-in authorizations are tied directly to the UAD-2 devices that you have registered in your UA account (up to 4 per hardware group) and not to any particular computer component or third party CP scheme.
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