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#1381 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by spiral  Oh you are serious? You are asking how we think a unit not in production will sound based on our scientific data? Science can't even determine a ship date at this point.
If you are asking me to speculate then i should hope a current production UA converter and preamp sounds better than a modded 10 year+ old product. | yea sorry.. but i have an old g5, 002 and rosetta with tons of plugs that i like.. an old dead 002 that i was completely sold on sending in ..then i started to look at the ufx and then....well you know ...i mean really my mind is made up on the ollo with my macbook then ill get a mac pro ..but i just had to ask
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21st February 2012
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#1382 | | Gear Head
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That could be the new awesome interface ! Looking forward to it.
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21st February 2012
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#1383 | | Gear maniac
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Originally Posted by DIGI ENT UA ran into produ tion delays. New ETA for all Apollos is early/mid April!!! WTF??? | any source on this? I'm sort of waiting for some reviews before i take the plunge (got some other purchases on the table first too)
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21st February 2012
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#1384 | | Gear nut
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" 4-710D + UAD dsp = Apollo. "
That's UA sales man told me.
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21st February 2012
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#1385 | | Gear maniac
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Originally Posted by Jason Rabbit " 4-710D + UAD dsp = Apollo. "
That's UA sales man told me. | would the apollo preamps possibly be the 710 twin without the additional tube circuit? then the 4710d converters and uad2..
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21st February 2012
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#1386 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by Mazrak would the apollo preamps possibly be the 710 twin without the additional tube circuit? then the 4710d converters and uad2.. | According to UA, 410d converters, UAD processing. Plain jane solid state preamps (presuming it's the same as the SS pres in 410d, though that hasn't been confirmed by UA.) This has been repeated several times in this thread. There's another thread about the Apollo vs. 410d too.
Even if it doesn't sound exactly the same, it is the same in function as a 410d with UAD processing.
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#1387 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by Mazrak would the apollo preamps possibly be the 710 twin without the additional tube circuit? then the 4710d converters and uad2.. |
Wouldn't be the 4-710d converters. Specs are waayyyyy off the Apollo. The preamps could be what you described, however ....
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#1388 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by Avening Wouldn't be the 4-710d converters. Specs are waayyyyy off the Apollo. The preamps could be what you described, however .... | Interesting if the specs differ. UA staff at NAMM was clearly promoting the Apollo as having the same converters as 410d. I asked explicitly.
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#1389 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by travisbrown Interesting if the specs differ. UA staff at NAMM was clearly promoting the Apollo as having the same converters as 410d. I asked explicitly. | Yes, they're much different. Both of the manuals are available on the UA website. Download them when you can and take a look at the AD/DA sections. Those specs come from the chip. Nothing to do with the analog chain before/after.
I think UA is simply telling people whatever it is that they want to hear at this point. UA has stated over and over that they do not disclose information about parts/manufacturers that make up the internals of their products. If UA stands behind the conversion in the 4-710d, they might tell you it sounds "as good", or "similar". However, I don't think you're going to get a chipset number of anyone at Universal Audio. Especially pre-release.
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21st February 2012
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#1390 | | Gear maniac
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Originally Posted by ludvista29 This in conjunction with the 4710D for extra mic pres would be SUPER cool.. for a middle of the road guy like myself! | what "middle of the road guy" means?
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21st February 2012
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#1391 | | Gear maniac
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Originally Posted by Avening Yes, they're much different. Both of the manuals are available on the UA website. Download them when you can and take a look at the AD/DA sections. Those specs come from the chip. Nothing to do with the analog chain before/after.
I think UA is simply telling people whatever it is that they want to hear at this point. UA has stated over and over that they do not disclose information about parts/manufacturers that make up the internals of their products. If UA stands behind the conversion in the 4-710d, they might tell you it sounds "as good", or "similar". However, I don't think you're going to get a chipset number of anyone at Universal Audio. Especially pre-release. | and in your opinion , is this good or bad? i mean having 4710 aspects
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21st February 2012
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#1392 | | Gear maniac
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Originally Posted by Jimmy kiddo what "middle of the road guy" means? | I assume he means slightly higher end than a bedroom dabbler, but not a professional.
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21st February 2012
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#1393 | | Gear maniac
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if this thing sounds better than the ensemble ,i am in ......you know ensemble is 10 years old tech and sound fantastic .....having in mind this; and taking in consideration that we are talking UA here,,,,,this thing with an API 3124 should rock pretty hard....  
Last edited by Jimmy kiddo; 21st February 2012 at 06:01 PM..
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21st February 2012
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#1394 | | Gear maniac
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if anybody can't make a good record with this ..... i don't know
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21st February 2012
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#1395 | | Gear nut
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Originally Posted by Mazrak would the apollo preamps possibly be the 710 twin without the additional tube circuit? then the 4710d converters and uad2.. | Yes, exactly.
Apollo's AD/DA quality(&character) is as good(or bad?) as 4-710D.
I don't know how good 4-710D's AD/DA is.
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21st February 2012
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#1396 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by Jimmy kiddo if this thing sounds better than the ensemble ,i am in ......you know ensemble is 10 years old tech and sound fantastic .....having in mind this; and taking in consideration that we are talking UA here,,,,,this thing with an API 3124 should rock pretty hard.... | I had the ensemble for a year, bought a ProFire2626 kept the pf2626 and bought another PF2626! Very disappointed with the Ensemble! My opinion.
Yes the apollo will sound better then the Emsemble!!
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21st February 2012
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#1397 | | Gear maniac
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Originally Posted by Jimmy kiddo if this thing sounds better than the ensemble ,i am in ......you know ensemble is 10 years old tech and sound fantastic .....having in mind this; and taking in consideration that we are talking UA here,,,,,this thing with an API 3124 should rock pretty hard.... | well...i have seen profesionals with a sm 57 and a digi 001 making wonders
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21st February 2012
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#1398 | | Gear maniac
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Originally Posted by Mazrak I assume he means slightly higher end than a bedroom dabbler, but not a professional. | well...i have seen profesionals with a sm 57 and a digi 001 making wonders
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21st February 2012
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#1399 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by Jimmy kiddo well...i have seen profesionals with a sm 57 and a digi 001 making wonders | Yes sir!! Talentand and professionalism is key..
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21st February 2012
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#1400 | | Gear nut
Joined: Feb 2011
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Oh no,
I might have mistook 410D to 4-710D.
It may be 410D.
I don't know what 410D is like because it's not on UA website anymore.
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21st February 2012
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#1401 | | Gear maniac
Joined: Jan 2012
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Originally Posted by Jason Rabbit Yes, exactly.
Apollo's AD/DA quality(&character) is as good(or bad?) as 4-710D.
I don't know how good 4-710D's AD/DA is. | I have seen unfavorable comments for the 4-710D converters, mostly by high-enders. BUT, for my situation, it would still be an improvement. I am personally more concerned with the preamps and thunderbolt drivers. The conversion is sure to be clean enough, and the UAD DSP built-in is the selling point for me. I am still waiting for reviews though... and enjoying reading all the commentary! If it's basically a 4-710D package with UAD2 processing and no tube circuits on the preamps, that's not a bad package for my needs.
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21st February 2012
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#1402 | | Gear maniac
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Originally Posted by DR Music I had the ensemble for a year, bought a ProFire2626 kept the pf2626 and bought another PF2626! Very disappointed with the Ensemble! My opinion.
Yes the apollo will sound better then the Emsemble!! | then...i am in,,,,,the only thing that bugs me is the lack of insert n the preamps  ....why?they should have in consideration all the possible routing flexibility!
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21st February 2012
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#1403 | | Gear maniac
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Originally Posted by DR Music Yes sir!! Talentand and professionalism is key.. |  | |
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21st February 2012
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#1404 | | Gear addict
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Originally Posted by Mazrak I have seen unfavorable comments for the 4-710D converters, mostly by high-enders. BUT, for my situation, it would still be an improvement. I am personally more concerned with the preamps and thunderbolt drivers. The conversion is sure to be clean enough, and the UAD DSP built-in is the selling point for me. I am still waiting for reviews though... and enjoying reading all the commentary! If it's basically a 4-710D package with UAD2 processing and no tube circuits on the preamps, that's not a bad package for my needs. | Exactly how i feel about it, more than enougt for my needs too, can't wait to put a studer on my rs7k for live performances and a space echo on the AUX1!
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#1405 | | Lives for gear
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Yes sir!! Talent and and professionalism is key..
| That kind of attitude will get you no where.
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21st February 2012
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#1406 | | Gear maniac
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Originally Posted by AlphaDingo That kind of attitude will get you no where. | May I ask why?
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21st February 2012
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#1407 | | Lives for gear
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| Sorry, I TOTALLY meant that as a joke. You are, of course, correct about talent and professionalism.
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#1408 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by AlphaDingo That kind of attitude will get you no where. | 
Hahahaha.....
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21st February 2012
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#1409 | | Gear Head
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Yes sir!! Talentand and professionalism is key..
| That kind of attitude will get this thread nowhere.
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#1410 | | Lives for gear
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That kind of attitude will get this thread nowhere.
| Thats what I meant!! | |
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