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19th February 2012
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I may just have to pick one of these up. It'll be the perfect excuse to go to dedicated external pre's! LOL

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Sorry if this was answered, when is the actual release date. I know an online gear sales co said shipping by April 30, are there some people getting one before this date that ordered earlier? I'm looking to know about sound comparisons from some of these pre-orders. Just wanted to know when to check back.
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19th February 2012
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Hi Everybody! ! Question ! !

When Neve1073 plug-in is Up, is Apollo gonna sound like Neve1073?(in Mic pre wise)
Please answer in YES or NO.
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If you're recording through a real 1073 preamp into Apollos inputs, sure. It's an EQ plugin, not a preamp plugin.

Preamp emulations may come later but that wouldn't be my reason to buy the box. I have plenty of nice preamps to run into it already.
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The unit sounds great cannot wait to hear more.
I have no interest in the preamps it comes, I have my own and I am happy, also recording with plugs?
Hell I hate to mix with them so I know recording with plugs is out of the question.
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i need this. just had to say it.
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Originally Posted by Quickpunch View Post

Being on a G5 with an HD3 I was pretty excited about the Apollo being an alternative to HD Native or HDX.
Let's see:

Apollo Quad with thunderbolt =$3000.00
Extra UAD plugs 1000.00
Pro Tools 10 w/CPTK 2700.00

TOTAL $6700.00

Trade in HD 3 FOR HDX W8x8io =$6999.00

Add Mac Pro = $3000.00

total = $10,000.00

And this : "Apple Releases First Developer Preview of OS X Mountain Lion, Public Launch in Late Summer"

Apple Releases First Developer Preview of OS X Mountain Lion, Public Launch in Late Summer - MacRumors Forums


if you add $1000 of UAD plugins please add at least $2000 of TDM plugins !!
cause the AVID bundled ones are far away from the UAD best plugins, and better TDM stuffs costs much more than UAD stuffs
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Being on a G5 with an HD3 I was pretty excited about the Apollo being an alternative to HD Native or HDX.
Let's see:

Apollo Quad with thunderbolt =$3000.00
Extra UAD plugs 1000.00
Pro Tools 10 w/CPTK 2700.00

TOTAL $6700.00

Trade in HD 3 FOR HDX W8x8io =$6999.00

Add Mac Pro = $3000.00

total = $10,000.00
I think you may wanna add in the price of a new thunderbolt equipped Mac for first option with apollo quad if you want to use thunderbolt and if you want PT 10 w/ cptk to run properly and be eligible for support.
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I'd have to know more about Thunderbolt performance before I considered the Apollo. Of course it's faster, but the Achilles heel of firewire and USB has always been scheduling, not speed.
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The Achilles heel of PCIe has never been scheduling or latency. The weakness of PCIe has always been that it requires hardware to be on a card inside the machine. Thunderbolt is external PCIe.
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We're not talking about the same thing. If you're saying that the limitation is that you have to co-locate your audio equipment with your noisy computer fan, then sure, that can be a nuisance. However, you still only get 3 meters of separation with Thunderbolt. PCI performance has always been fine for audio, hence PT HD and RME interfaces. Firewire and USB performance are another matter altogether.
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So how are we not talking about the same thing? If the performance is the same as PCIe, how is it comparable to another protocol like USB or FireWire?
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P.S. 3m is not great but my mac pro isn't noisy. It also doesn't have thunderbolt, sigh. Mac mini / MacBook pro / air however, close to silent. Thunderbolt is a definite improvement on form factor vs. express card.
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It's easy. I was walking about Firewire and USB scheduling. You were talking about PCIe. You don't know if Thunderbolt is going to work better for audio, because you haven't tried it. It would be great if it were. It looks good on paper. But then again, so Firewire and USB look great on paper, too, but the reality is very different.
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Sure, BUT thunderbolt IS PCIe. So
If you're happy with the way PCIe performs, what's the issue?
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So you're taking issue with someone wanting to see it before they believe it, because you want to believe it before you've seen it?
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Absolutely not, if it's not PCIe and the specs lie... Not cool. Why would they lie? Nothing has ever been marketed as actually being PCIe before... Apart from expresscard, and... That is a few lanes of PCIe, not as many as thunderbolt. It performed as advertised.

If it's PCIe, it's PCIe. No? Everything I've read so far indicates it's so!

In any event, no thunderbolt on Apollo until Summer.

I too would like to see it in action, but you can't compare thunderbolt to FireWire or USB. They are protocols that connect to the PCI bus. Not PCI or PCIe themselves. They haven't even hit the latency / speed figures
of the PCI included in 486 machines (133MB/sec) - as the UAD1 was.
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UA ran into produ tion delays. New ETA for all Apollos is early/mid April!!! WTF???
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im gona go back and re read this thread while im waiting
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UA ran into produ tion delays. New ETA for all Apollos is early/mid April!!! WTF???
Nova Musik told me "The ETA is sometime this summer." when i asked about preordering. That may mean nothing if there are priority vendors getting initial shipments etc.
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i know we haven't had a chance to use the unit and no one has one but scientific answer only please ... functionality aside ..how do you think this will sound vs a bla sig. mod. 002
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i know we haven't had a chance to use the unit and no one has one but scientific answer only please ... functionality aside ..how do you think this will sound vs a bla sig. mod. 002
Eleventy % more betters.
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Eleventy % more betters.
science please kind sir!
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science please kind sir!
Oh you are serious? You are asking how we think a unit not in production will sound based on our scientific data? Science can't even determine a ship date at this point.

If you are asking me to speculate then i should hope a current production UA converter and preamp sounds better than a modded 10 year+ old product.
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Oh you are serious? You are asking how we think a unit not in production will sound based on our scientific data? Science can't even determine a ship date at this point.

If you are asking me to speculate then i should hope a current production UA converter and preamp sounds better than a modded 10 year+ old product.
yea sorry.. but i have an old g5, 002 and rosetta with tons of plugs that i like.. an old dead 002 that i was completely sold on sending in ..then i started to look at the ufx and then....well you know ...i mean really my mind is made up on the ollo with my macbook then ill get a mac pro ..but i just had to ask
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That could be the new awesome interface ! Looking forward to it.
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UA ran into produ tion delays. New ETA for all Apollos is early/mid April!!! WTF???
any source on this? I'm sort of waiting for some reviews before i take the plunge (got some other purchases on the table first too)
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" 4-710D + UAD dsp = Apollo. "

That's UA sales man told me.
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