Originally Posted by smoovemode
WOW!! I have never heard this statement! I actually have a LS56 and was considering an Apogee Ensemble as an upgrade. What is it about the Apogee you didn't like?
Better low end frequency response, mid and hi detail are smoother and we all loved that the SF56 had better stereo separation.
Here is what happened.
After working on a Tascam FW1884 and a 003 aswell, I had bought a few new Mic Pre's and mics. I also figured it was time to upgrade to better conversion. (I had most popular pre's and mics) After talking to a few engineer comrads, I noticed the difference was the converters... HD and Lynx systems. I also noticed the Lynx systems were better detailed on playback of my PT sessions. Subtle but noticeable. I figured if I can get to about a DigiHD converter with something like the Ensemble I'm in!!!
Switch to logic, at the time I was 50/50 PT and Logic.
Ensemble gets to the to my front door I'm excited, super excited! Sounds better than the 003..!
Next off to my buddies HD set up.
After a mins to set up.
Here we go.. !!!
Not so excited, there was still a difference in detail and hi's were strange.
But better than my 003, so I'm still excited!
PT 9 comes out! Time to sell the 003.
Sold it, and bought a Profire 2626.
I've seen and heard previously how better it was than the 003. But I figured the price was almost half can't be better.
Not as excited as the Ensemble's arrival. I got it going. 16 channels of better than 003 conversion wow I thought!!
Tried it out. Sounded pretty good actually!! But without even trying it to track with the 2626. I had 16 decent i/o channels. Time to install PT9!!!
Could not get PT9 to see the Ensemble!! I had a client coming in so I got the 2626 drivers in instead of standalone mode. Luckily it worked flawlessly.... My client asked did you get new monitors? Mic? Did you you buy that 1167 compressor? Did you redo some parts? 1176 I replied and no not yet! I told her I had new converters! She didn't understand but I was beginning too!! A few weeks I got the ensemble working.
I could hear the difference between too! In the vocals just better and more natural. On acoustics I could really tell even in the mid low end big time!! I'd figured I'd get a word clock, it might get my $2000 converters up to par with the $700 ones. Researched and I didn't have the $1200 for a BBen or $2000 for a Antlpe. I decided to get the Black Lion Audio mkll WClock. I was Disappointed because it was not a rack mount. But o well. It worked Apogee sounded better!! Then I tried the PF 2626.... Listed the Apg Ensemble the next day! Bought another PF2626 and a Disstressor!
It was very clear to me it didn't matter the name brand. It's the sound. Took my PF2626 with the mkll clock back to my engineers PTHD set up! So close he could not believe it!! I had both units with the BLA Mod and then my PT HD buddies really love what they hear.
PS we clocked the mkll to the digiHD and the PF2626. He called me 2 hours later and said my system sounds different without the mkll! He bought one the next day. Later we compared a SF56 to my unmoded PF2626 nice super close hard to tell the difference.
With or without the clock.
With the mkll the PF and the SF56 sound better no doubt!
That's how I get to what I say.
I think BLA is a very good company.