Wave Machine Labs - Auria
Old 18th January 2012
  #31
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There are at least three 18-channel interfaces that we've tested with Auria with great results. We'll be posting a list of the interfaces we've tested on our web site during the release.

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Old 18th January 2012
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Would I be so far off as to think that we're seeing the future of recording unfold before our eyes?

This has come as quite a surprise and I'm thinking more that an ipad
is coming to my soundscape sooner than I was planning.
Old 18th January 2012
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It will work with Alesis ioDock, but Auria also supports multi-channel USB interfaces, so you could, for example record an entire band through an 18-input USB interface.

As far as MIDI, Auria is an audio-only app, so no there's no midi clock. We may add midi syncing in a future update, though.

The price will be $49.95

Rim
Yes *please* ... i've just got an IO Dock, because I *need* audio and MIDI for live performance. There must be a lot of people like me buying guitar processors and vocal harmony processors that need MIDI to drive them. The hardware sequencer makers such as AKAI have walked away from standalone hardware, so looks like the iPad is the solution for those who don't trust laptops. (Maybe delusional thinking - time will tell).

I'll have to use Garageband or other iPad DAWs until then - but this looks amazing. And PSP rock ... wish I could make use of this.
Old 18th January 2012
  #34
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Hats off to the developers if this works as promised.
Midi sync would be so useful, along with background audio, so with audio multi inputs and outputs we could loop back other apps audio through the hardware to record into AURIA, either instruments or effects ; assuming the CPU has any remaining grunt to run other apps along with this?

P.s Did the earth just move a little for anyone else?
Old 18th January 2012
  #35
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With so many tracks available, I'm VERY interested to see if this has a grouping feature for editing, otherwise it will be a pain. Especially for arranging thereafter. I'd love to group drums for example and collapse them for ease of use.

I'm not too fussed it has no midi, but one feature I would love is playlists so I could do my guitars and vocals and comp together a great single take from multiple takes on the same track.
Old 18th January 2012
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Now THIS would give me a reason to buy an ipad. By far the most compelling thing i've seen on the platform. Kudos to the dev team.
Old 18th January 2012
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Okay so you have a 48 track DAW....questions remain.

Where do you store all those tracks? The largest iPad is only 64gb.
How do you output those tracks individually for editing and mixing?
Old 18th January 2012
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Okay so you have a 48 track DAW....questions remain.

Where do you store all those tracks? The largest iPad is only 64gb.
How do you output those tracks individually for editing and mixing?
These are my questions. I'd love to incorporate this as my mobile rig for recording live shows but I need to know more about data storage and exporting. It sounds like it's pretty easy but without an iPad to test it on... well... show knows
Old 18th January 2012
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Okay so you have a 48 track DAW....questions remain.

Where do you store all those tracks? The largest iPad is only 64gb.
How do you output those tracks individually for editing and mixing?
Unless my math is off, let's say you have a 5 minute song that you're working on and you're using all 48 tracks at 24 bit 44.1 WAV.

Each GB takes care of about 12 tracks, so a full 48 tracks would be somewhere around 4 GBs. That's definitely doable, even on the smallest iPad which is 16 GB.

It's not a problem to transfer files to and from an iPad, so I don't really see any issues here.
Old 18th January 2012
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Unless my math is off, let's say you have a 5 minute song that you're working on and you're using all 48 tracks at 24 bit 44.1 WAV.

Each GB takes care of about 12 tracks, so a full 48 tracks would be somewhere around 4 GBs. That's definitely doable, even on the smallest iPad which is 16 GB.

It's not a problem to transfer files to and from an iPad, so I don't really see any issues here.
yep, how easily we forget that 18 or 36 GB in a Glyph Rack 10 years ago was standard on high end ProTools rigs and cost many thousands of dollars.

it's amazing that we paid upwards $25K back then for what we're getting on a $500 piece of "consumer" hardware running $50 software.

AAF import and export? craziness. that truly classifies this software as pro!
Old 18th January 2012
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Let's do the math... (is this right?) ...

44/24 = 15 mb a minute stereo. 7.5 mb a minute mono.
48 (contiguous) stereo tracks * 15 = 720 mb a minute, 4 minute pop song = 2.8gb
48 (contiguous) mono tracks * 7.5 = 360 mb a minute, 4 minute pop song = 1.4 gb.

Typical bottom barrel (cheapest) iPad has a little over 14gb of usable space (OS takes up some space). Should be plenty enough for takes and overdubs especially since very few people will actually be using 48 tracks, let alone 48 contiguous stereo tracks.

I do wonder how hard it will hit the battery though.
Old 18th January 2012
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Rim and Matt... this looks very impressive! I'll have to get it on my iPad2 for some remote recording

I'll see this Friday to check it on in person!
Old 18th January 2012
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It's not a problem to transfer files to and from an iPad, so I don't really see any issues here.

Is this typically done through iTunes?
Old 19th January 2012
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Is this typically done through iTunes?
Different apps provide different options, but yeah, iTunes syncing is a common way of doing it.

I saw that for this app, their website mentioned iTunes, soundcloud and dropbox. iTunes syncing is much more convenient now since iOS 5 arrived, thanks to WIFI.
Old 19th January 2012
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I´m baffled about the VST plugin capability (iOS-format).
But I guess the iPad 2 will not allow for too many instances of fabfilter pro-C or pro-Q...

Think this will be getting interesting when iPad 3 or 4 come out.
But then again the laptops will even be more capable.
Old 19th January 2012
  #46
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look amazing, great price but i do have to admit i am sad that it's not a full sequencer with midi.

You guys will hopefully eventually succumb to the pressure and add it!
Old 19th January 2012
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Thank god I bought iPad2...
Old 19th January 2012
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Hmm... the product will, no doubt, be amazing. I have faith in that. I'm betting there is no way, with an iPad, to write to an external drive though or am I wrong?
Old 19th January 2012
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Without MIDI sync this product is useless to me.

However add MIDI sync, as well as support for the IO Dock and/or maybe one of these:


... this synced to Nanostudio on another iPad. A killer setup? A dream setup? No "computer"...
Old 19th January 2012
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Ok, firstly, this is really awesome! The video got me really excited.

It's such a cool concept, but I don't understand the practicality.

Can anyone tell me why I would want to mix and/or edit on an iPad? Why would it be better than a laptop? Laptops have way more interface options, too.
Old 19th January 2012
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Ok, firstly, this is really awesome! The video got me really excited.

It's such a cool concept, but I don't understand the practicality.

Can anyone tell me why I would want to mix and/or edit on an iPad? Why would it be better than a laptop? Laptops have way more interface options, too.
Thats whats wrong with the world, dont let anyone tell you why you would want anything, decide for yourself!
Old 19th January 2012
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Can anyone tell me why I would want to mix and/or edit on an iPad? Why would it be better than a laptop? Laptops have way more interface options, too.
Have you ever tried it?

Most apps on iOS boot within seconds. Windows and Mac OS take a good half a minute if you're lucky enough to have them installed on an SSD. For most with standard HDDs, it's a good 2-4 minutes before your DAW is running and/or your project has started opening.

Also, no mouse-induced RSI!
Old 19th January 2012
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Can anyone tell me why I would want to mix and/or edit on an iPad? Why would it be better than a laptop? Laptops have way more interface options, too.
Does your laptop weigh around 1 pound?

Is your laptop instant on?

Is your laptop 100% quiet, as in zero noise, not even a single fan?

Does your laptop run for more than 10 hours on battery?

Does your laptop have a multi touch screen?

Laptops are useful and I use mine often, but iPads are also useful and I find myself using it often too. If you need to be convinced of the usefulness of something, then it's probably not for you.
Old 19th January 2012
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This/iPad-powered setup will not replace a full throttled laptop+DAW but this is just hellova app for iPad!
Old 19th January 2012
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Before the iPad2 came out I was in the Reaper forum asking if they would consider porting Reaper to iOS. I got attitude in return.

Thank you Rim!
Old 20th January 2012
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Before the iPad2 came out I was in the Reaper forum asking if they would consider porting Reaper to iOS. I got attitude in return.

Thank you Rim!
I remember they were pretty hostile towards the idea...
Old 21st January 2012
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I remember they were pretty hostile towards the idea...
It was really surprising to me considering how "for the user" they are over there. Meh...it wasn't for them and that is fine. It was the dismissive attitude of "It can't be done" and "The iPad is just a toy" that burned me.

I welcome this app with open arms. I hope my Motu interface will work with it.
Old 21st January 2012
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Thats whats wrong with the world, dont let anyone tell you why you would want anything, decide for yourself!
I see your point, but I was merely asking why someone would want this, not asking to be convinced. Perhaps there are situations I haven't thought of, no? I don't think it's wrong to ask why somebody would want a product when one doesn't fully understand said product's place in the market.
Old 21st January 2012
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what is the latency like for live tracking?
Old 21st January 2012
  #60
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Record input latency on Auria is 128 samples (plus some overhead, depending on the audio interface). Acceptable for most situations, but there's also the hardware monitoring option on most interfaces.

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