Waves WLM Loudness Meter

[Grahamdwc]

The Waves WLM Loudness Meter plugin provides precision loudness measurement and metering for broadcast, movie trailers, games, packaged media and more. Fully compliant with all current ITU, EBU and ATSC specifications, the WLM offers comprehensive Momentary, Short Term, Long Term, and True Peak readouts, plus a unique warning and logging system that keeps track of your levels, and lets you know when you’ve exceeded them—or fallen short. Ideal for content creators and post production houses as well as cable head-end facilities, WLM is an affordable, all-in-one cross-platform, multi-format loudness metering software solution.


Measurement Methods

EBU uses foreground audio as the loudness anchor.
LM1 measures and averages loudness across the whole program.
DIAL uses dialog as the loudness anchor, measuring and averaging loudness only when dialog is detected.
Measurement Standards

ITU-R BS.1770-2
EBU R-128
ATSC A/85
Time Scales

Momentary
Short Term
Long Term
True Peak
Weighting

ITU-R B.S.1770 – K-Weighting
Leq(a)
Leq(b)
Leq(c)
Leq(m)


Link : WLM Loudness Meter Plugin | Waves

[Jeezo]

great tools ....gui nice as usual ....

[bdangler]

I can't tell for sure from the Waves site. Does it do Audiosuite? Non-RT analysis would be amazing.

[macmurphy]

$299? sheesh!

[nott]

rrrrrreat!!!!

[poshook]

Originally Posted by macmurphy

$299? sheesh!

totally overpriced

[Whitecat]

Originally Posted by poshook

totally overpriced

Really? How much should this cost, bearing in mind the price of competing products such as NuGen VisLM or Dolby Media Meter?

[markham]

Originally Posted by whitecat

Really? How much should this cost, bearing in mind the price of competing products such as NuGen VisLM or Dolby Media Meter?

Well, you can get the full version of Spectre for $100, and it'll do this and a whole lot more. You can even get the $50 "starter version" that does good basic stuff.

Granted, there are things about this new Waves plug that are easier, since it's an actual plugin rather than a separate Application, but still, $300 as an intro price? Wow. Seems pricey to me. I would imagine they'd sell a lot more if it were in $150 range.

[Whitecat]

Originally Posted by markham

Well, you can get the full version of Spectre for $100, and it'll do this and a whole lot more. You can even get the $50 "starter version" that does good basic stuff.

Granted, there are things about this new Waves plug that are easier, since it's an actual plugin rather than a separate Application, but still, $300 as an intro price? Wow. Seems pricey to me. I would imagine they'd sell a lot more if it were in $150 range.

Spectre is cool but is currently a no-go at all with Pro Tools, right (at least without some serious bodges)?? I'd bet that's a major deal breaker for 95% of the people who would need this plug-in.

[Tube World]

Originally Posted by poshook

totally overpriced

That is the standard price on any UAD plug in....or more, but for just a meter I agree. $150 sounds better

[Whitecat]

Also, bear in mind that the plug-in is neither aimed at nor even useful to the bedroom producer - or arguably even anyone working strictly in music. It's pretty 'niche' for a Waves product.

[grooveminister]

Originally Posted by Tube World

That is the standard price on any UAD plug in....or more

Only thanks to "bx_digital v2" 299$ is the third highest price-level in UAD´s price structure and UA doesn´t offer pure metering-plugins at all.
79$ - 99$ - 149$ - 199$ - 249$ - 299$ - 329$ - 349$

[nucelar]

Originally Posted by whitecat

Spectre is cool but is currently a no-go at all with Pro Tools, right (at least without some serious bodges)?? I'd bet that's a major deal breaker for 95% of the people who would need this plug-in.

AFAIK Spectre does not measure Loudness, which is the point of WLM

[Whitecat]

Originally Posted by nucelar

AFAIK Spectre does not measure Loudness, which is the point of WLM

I took a look just now - it does do Leq, in a very rudimentary fashion and not with the complexity of EBU.128.

[nott]

Originally Posted by whitecat

I took a look just now - it does do Leq, in a very rudimentary fashion and not with the complexity of EBU.128.

there are all features for r128

[Whitecat]

Originally Posted by nott

there are all features for r128

Not officially yet and not for the base price of the app, apparently.

[nott]

Originally Posted by whitecat

Not officially yet and not for the base price of the app, apparently.

dont understand???
you have long term & short lu meters and true peak metering!!!

[feck]

This looks great, downloading now. Another day I am glad I have Mercury with WUP.

[Whitecat]

Originally Posted by nott

dont understand???
you have long term & short lu meters and true peak metering!!!

Eh? I must be missing something.

EBU.R128 is a very specific loudness measurement algorithm which Spectre does not yet have. It WILL have it someday as a paid add-on, but it's been in beta since last August.

If you are mixing for broadcast and they require you to hit the EBU spec then Spectre won't do. The Waves plug-in should, today, as a plug-in at that.

What am I missing?

[nott]

Originally Posted by whitecat

Eh? I must be missing something.

EBU.R128 is a very specific loudness measurement algorithm which Spectre does not yet have. It WILL have it someday as a paid add-on, but it's been in beta since last August.

If you are mixing for broadcast and they require you to hit the EBU spec then Spectre won't do. The Waves plug-in should, today, as a plug-in at that.

What am I missing?

my words!

[Whitecat]

Originally Posted by nott

my words!

There's not very many of them and I honestly don't know what you're trying to say.

[housegezeichnet]

TB EBULoudness

[Whitecat]

Originally Posted by housegezeichnet

TB EBULoudness

That's a good price indeed... but no Pro Tools...

[nott]

Originally Posted by whitecat

That's a good price indeed... but no Pro Tools...

yeah! bought it last month. works fine.

[Gemylon]

Originally Posted by nott

yeah! bought it last month. works fine.

So you are working with the VST2RTAS wrapper ?

G

[cane creek]

A meter is a nice to have in view all the time however the fact its not 64bit the GUI is going to keep vanishing in 64bit logic whenever you click elsewhere.........

[adogg4629]

Anybody test this against the LM100? This would be a bargain if I could use it to pass Discovery specs.

Aaron

[Shan]

Another comparable plug-in to the WLM is VisLM and LM-Correct. I've used the NuGen plug-ins in PT but look forward to seeing how WLM compares.

Shane

[Moofie]

Originally Posted by Shan

Another comparable plug-in to the WLM is VisLM and LM-Correct. I've used the NuGen plug-ins in PT but look forward to seeing how WLM compares.

Shane

Agreed Shane, I've used all the above and a few others including the Pandora by Wohler, to hit all kinds of delivery specs and those are all good tools. The WLM will be interesting as it appears to be one of the few to offer a transport controlled metering option i.e. "Follow Transport" in that the LU read-out, resets itself during stop/start. I find many of the current batch of software app loudness tools require a lengthy sample period or a manual reset via the GUI which is tiresome when mixing at speed.
It's a mode I'm keen on as it's how I use/d the LeqA metering inside PT Phasescope for pre-mixing when other metering options haven't been available.

(Please no hi-jacks regarding the quality of Phasescope... it's all been said before.)

Cheers

Tom

Re-Recording Mixer, NZ

[BlackBackDrop]

Originally Posted by whitecat

Also, bear in mind that the plug-in is neither aimed at nor even useful to the bedroom producer - or arguably even anyone working strictly in music. It's pretty 'niche' for a Waves product.

dunno, I started delivering EBU128 mixes just incase sync pubs ask for them.

Plus I been really studying this new standard, trying to find ways to make things seem louder and I got some cool technqiues figured out.

I think the standard will hit the Radio Industry in the future, I read somewhere APPLE will use it, I could be wrong.