Xils-lab Le Masque delay

[Xavier]

Originally Posted by Krubbadoo

Hi Xavier!
For my taste, I'd rather see 1/4, rather than tempo, and so on...
Just goes way quicker. 1/4T, 1/4. etc...

in french:

1 pour une ronde, 1/2 pour une blanche, 1/4 pour une noire, 1/8 pour un croche, 1/16 pour une double croche. 1/32 pour une triple croche avec ensuite un T pour les triolets et un . pour les figures pointées. Un peu comme Echoboy, Echofarm ou le stereo delay de Logic etc...

Merci!

Thanks for the french I understood now !


Best
Xavier

[sonicdefault]

Originally Posted by jonmoore

I think that Soundtoys Echoboy is the benchmark here. It gives the actual note value (and uses buttons to select dotted or triplet values - which I prefer as it keep the dial values uncluttered)....
JM
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Originally Posted by Krubbadoo

Hi Xavier!
...
1 pour une ronde, 1/2 pour une blanche, 1/4 pour une noire, 1/8 pour un croche, 1/16 pour une double croche. 1/32 pour une triple croche avec ensuite un T pour les triolets et un . pour les figures pointées. Un peu comme Echoboy, Echofarm ou le stereo delay de Logic etc...

Merci!

yes


I'd also like to see an option for a larger GUI


-SD

[LotuZia]

Originally Posted by jonmoore

I think that Soundtoys Echoboy is the benchmark here. It gives the actual note value (and uses buttons to select dotted or triplet values - which I prefer as it keep the dial values uncluttered).

Been having lots of fun with Le Masque so far by the way.

JM
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Yes Echoboy system, eventually inherited from Roland rythm machines is great and rather intuitive. But its also limited to dotted values or triplets.

Xils-Labs system allows to have values like pentolets, sextolets and even heptolets ( ie beat value or subdivision divided by 7 notes instead of eight), as well as some shuffles ( ie non exact syncops 'between ternary and binary etc" Though to be honnest it also lacks very few values you can reach with Echoboy like the dotted 16th note (T*2.666).

But the majpr benefit -imho- is that you need only ONE control instead of three ( Beat div, Dot, Triplet ) to achieve similar results, and that like stated above you can have other musical values wich are musical ( like pentolets wich are very commonly used by drummers -ok advanced drummers - ) and can give people who want to experiment a little bit to leave the common path used by the majority.

Ok beyond all these aesthetic musical considerations, anyway, we're working of that and this will be available in the future Le Masque 1.1 version wich will also bring some other cosmetic/ergonomy changes/enhancements :

1/ Values displayed in musical notationrather than tempo divi/multi
2/ By users requests : Clicking in preset name zone will now display the preset list pop up menu ; No need to click on the tiny little arrow anaymore ( btw there's no more this little arrow )
3/ Same for the first search criteria list
4/ Preset label missing T is now displayed correctly.

The V1.1 version will also bring some NEW features, some of wich were FRs, while some others were schedulled but are implemented more quickly due to the success of Le Masque and the fact that we had in the end less things to fix to reach the stability stage than we feared before the release. ( Yes, sometimes, nice can also happen )

[sonicdefault]

Originally Posted by LotuZia

Yes Echoboy system, eventually inherited from Roland rythm machines is great and rather intuitive. But its also limited to dotted values or triplets.

Xils-Labs system allows to have values like pentolets, sextolets and even heptolets ( ie beat value or subdivision divided by 7 notes instead of eight), as well as some shuffles ( ie non exact syncops 'between ternary and binary etc" Though to be honnest it also lacks very few values you can reach with Echoboy like the dotted 16th note (T*2.666).

But the majpr benefit -imho- is that you need only ONE control instead of three ( Beat div, Dot, Triplet ) to achieve similar results, and that like stated above you can have other musical values wich are musical ( like pentolets wich are very commonly used by drummers -ok advanced drummers - ) and can give people who want to experiment a little bit to leave the common path used by the majority.

Ok beyond all these aesthetic musical considerations, anyway, we're working of that and this will be available in the future Le Masque 1.1 version wich will also bring some other cosmetic/ergonomy changes/enhancements :

...)

Thanks, I noticed this. FWIW, it might be more ergonomic to have up/down buttons to select the values rather than knobs. I find that simply clicking to toggle is easier, since you know a single click is moving a single rhythmic value, and therefore allows you to focus more on the sound rather than the GUI.

Also, regarding the knobs, I found it a little tedious at times to select between the inner and outer concentric rings (I use a 30" display, which as you know can make adjustments challenging). Perhaps, having knobs for Feedback and buttons for Time might be a nice choice.

Thanks for considering our opinions ;-)


-SD

[LotuZia]

Originally Posted by sonicdefault

Thanks, I noticed this. FWIW, it might be more ergonomic to have up/down buttons to select the values rather than knobs. I find that simply clicking to toggle is easier, since you know a single click is moving a single rhythmic value, and therefore allows you to focus more on the sound rather than the GUI.

Also, regarding the knobs, I found it a little tedious at times to select between the inner and outer concentric rings (I use a 30" display, which as you know can make adjustments challenging). Perhaps, having knobs for Feedback and buttons for Time might be a nice choice.

Thanks for considering our opinions ;-)


-SD

Hi SD,

The display in musical notation values is nearly finished and implemented. ANd in version 1.1 yes we considered a lot of different opinions. This time however I'l have to -partially- decline this one.

Well it could have been a solution IF and only IF .... people were using always delays in sync mode with exact values. Wich is not the case so when the delay is in unsynced mode you need a knob for the values.

Regarding this I must admit that I almost never use delays in production in sync mode ( too mechanical for me usually ). Even when I set the delay to nearly exact tempo values manually I often like to spray both delays a bit ( adding offset on one and/or substracting on the other ) to give either the feeling that the delays "beat" amongst each other, or to give a sense of "urge" or "laidback/lazy". ( + I must add that various VERY SHORT delay values can give some various impressive effects, wich do not have the perception of -"a delay"- but are still audio effects )

What I also especially like on percussive material is to use the tap to give a human feel to the delay.

Ok. to each his own, so in Le Masque you can have both : Exact "sync" values, AND "human" values. And so we need a knob

Eventually we'll manage to make a function in the future where you can set the delay times with the sync function engaged, and then tweak them from this "startpoint".

Else I think the only solution to your problem of huge monitors sizes would be an option with a bigger Le Masque size available, like we did on the PolyKB and Synthix. As its really a lot of work, I cant promise anything atm.

Soon some new demos with the new v1.0 features. In my humble thus highly biased opinion; some are more than cool : They will hopefully surprise a lot of people

Thanks to everybody for your ideas, requests, submissions : it helps us a lot in improving Le Masque

[sonicdefault]

Originally Posted by LotuZia

Hi SD,

The display in musical notation values is nearly finished and implemented. ANd in version 1.1 yes we considered a lot of different opinions. This time however I'l have to -partially- decline this one.

Well it could have been a solution IF and only IF .... people were using always delays in sync mode with exact values. Wich is not the case so when the delay is in unsynced mode you need a knob for the values.

Regarding this I must admit that I almost never use delays in production in sync mode ( too mechanical for me usually ). Even when I set the delay to nearly exact tempo values manually I often like to spray both delays a bit ( adding offset on one and/or substracting on the other ) to give either the feeling that the delays "beat" amongst each other, or to give a sense of "urge" or "laidback/lazy". ( + I must add that various VERY SHORT delay values can give some various impressive effects, wich do not have the perception of -"a delay"- but are still audio effects )

What I also especially like on percussive material is to use the tap to give a human feel to the delay.

Ok. to each his own, so in Le Masque you can have both : Exact "sync" values, AND "human" values. And so we need a knob ...

I agree:-) Of course, I was speaking of the ability to quickly toggle more as a way to get near the desired delay time before tweaking. Also, since we have already mentioned EchoBoy, I think it's also worth noting the Groove and Feel knobs it offers. I find these intuitive and a great way to diverge from sync values.

Regarding the filters, it would be nice if we had some kind of graphic visual to see the results of cutoff and resonance. I haven't used LeMasque enough to have a solid opinion on this yet, but my first impression was that I might like a greater control of the slope/Q values- Or perhaps a more extensive option to be able to control a very diverse number of bands similar to NIs Spektral Delay. That would be awesome... but perhaps I dream too much;-) FWIW, I've found other ways to achieve this, but it would be nice to have this functionality within a single interface.


Thanks again for the great support! I look forward to all your future work.


-SD

[Homunculus]

Originally Posted by sonicdefault

I agree:
Regarding the filters, it would be nice if we had some kind of graphic visual to see the results of cutoff and resonance. I haven't used LeMasque enough to have a solid opinion on this yet, but my first impression was that I might like a greater control of the slope/Q values. Or perhaps a more extensive option to be able to control a very diverse number of bands similar to NIs Spektral Delay.


Thanks again for the great support! I look forward to all your future work.


-SD

that would be awesome

[LotuZia]

Originally Posted by sonicdefault

I agree:-) Of course, I was speaking of the ability to quickly toggle more as a way to get near the desired delay time before tweaking. Also, since we have already mentioned EchoBoy, I think it's also worth noting the Groove and Feel knobs it offers. I find these intuitive and a great way to diverge from sync values.

Regarding the filters, it would be nice if we had some kind of graphic visual to see the results of cutoff and resonance. I haven't used LeMasque enough to have a solid opinion on this yet, but my first impression was that I might like a greater control of the slope/Q values- Or perhaps a more extensive option to be able to control a very diverse number of bands similar to NIs Spektral Delay. That would be awesome... but perhaps I dream too much;-) FWIW, I've found other ways to achieve this, but it would be nice to have this functionality within a single interface.


Thanks again for the great support! I look forward to all your future work.


-SD

Hi SD and Homonculus,

Yes I can see that you are both in the Mad Scientist laboratory option

So regarding the display options ( filters etc ) : There are two problems : 1/ It takes some room on the GUI and 2/ It adds some cpu charge.

So that there's no ambiguity I'll take the case of a synth I really love, not made by Xils-Lab, and for wich I've programmed hundreds of presets : NI FM8.

The two displays ( filter and spectrum) are very tiny and really dont add anything to what you do. Better and detailed displays "could" be usefull, but they would take a huge space on the GUI, and such analysis tools would eat CPU. And you have a lot of -even free- analysis tools.

So two things : Whatever the power of your CPU, you're likely to be confronted to have to use more than what it offers, wich then lead to solutions as freezing tracks etc. I hate this, like most people. So every little CPU should really be saved when its not absolutely necessary.

Otoh we have learned a lot with the Synthix, wich might be the only "single panel" multitimbral synth. So despite its huge possibilities and depth in programming, some users did not get it, or worse, did resell it, because there were so numerous options that they were "lost" in the possibilities. ( despite the easy and advanced modes we provided ). So sometimes, "more" can be seen by some peopla as "less" .

Back to Le Masque ? Ok. So when I designed Le Masque three things were absolutely clear in my mind

1/ Le Masque was meant to offer supreme sound quality for a mid range price ( Soundtoys beeing seen there, due to the price and the dongle, as higher range of the market )

2/ The user interface should be as clean and clutterless as possible so that everybody could use it in a intuitive way, and that every knob does "something" musical and hearable by the user.

3/ Le Masque should be able to do things no other delay can do, while not pretending to replace every other delay under the sun : Music is really diversity. Especially Le Masque should be able to do things I wanted for a long time in a delay, and could not find.

Let's sum up : If somewhere in the future we make an SuperMasque Delay, ie a much more complex unit with tons of options, AND intended to mainly the hi-end user, we might consider some analysis tools. For the present version, I think it would be counterproductive : Lot of work to make efficient and optimise analysis tools, cluttered GUI, no real benefit regarding "the sound" .

About the "groove" item, a groove is a % wich add offset to the syncop value if the tempo is exact and synced. When the delay is not synced it has no meaning, because you gave it "your" groove. This is an interesting option, though it works only in sync mode, and as such adds a control wich only benefit in this mode. We'll think of it, but probably not in the near future, as it implies adding a knob on the UI.

Smae with The 'feel' knob, wich is probably a random factor with moves the time position of the delay beats to avoid the mechanical feeling ? Right ? ( I'm a PC user so I cant verify on a Mac at once ). Its a nice idea too, but LE Masque has its own possibilities to add life and a bit of -mastered- random to the delays : Consider for example modulating slightly the attack of the Masks by a LFO for example, or the filter cut-off, or ... both. These modulation are btw enhanced in the v 1.1 of Le Masque, where the Pan position, and level of both Delay lines are now possible targets in the mod matrix.

Deeper in the mad scientist lab is the possibility for Le Masque to operate like NI Spektral Delay, ( why did they abandon it ? erf ). This would imply some much UI mods and tons of work that this is clearly impossible. There are other ways to do it, its true. Once again Le Masque has no vocation to be the Delay wich will replace all other ones : It "can" become your go-to delay ( and this would already be a very big reward for us ), it does things that no other delay can do, and it does them in a clear and intuitive way that no other unit can do as well. The reverse is also true : Soundtoys does lot of things Le Masque cant do, as well as some delays I love like AD Replicant for example.

Wich leads me to explain a direction we took in the V1.1 version :

1/ You now have the possibility to put the filter in the Delay Feedback loop : It opens a wide range of sonic possibilities

Here's a quick audio demo wich demonstates the possibilities of this new feature

http://www.xils-lab.com/audiosample/...edback%20A.mp3

in this demo you hear first the dry clip, then the clip with a preset in normal mode ( Filter outside the delay loop), then the clip with the SAME preset, except the only difference is that the Filter is now in the delay feedback loop, then two small clips of the WET ONLY signal derived from the two previous clips : With or without the filter in the delay loop, so that people can hear that the overall sound character is really different, and that this option ADDS something meaningfull to the audio versatility of Le Masque

I'll add some other small clips showcasing the other possibilities of the V 1.1, wich shoud btw be available for DL today.

And yes, for those who might wonder, intro price of 39€ is still valid ! ( it won't last forever though )

[Homunculus]

the update is out :D get it here LeMasque Delay download installer

you guys owe me a discount on your next product lol , thanks for the update

[Homunculus]

hey LotuZia, can you explain to me a little bit what the delay feedback loop does, im using it right now and i see it doing things but i dont know exactly what is going on

[LotuZia]

Originally Posted by Homunculus

hey LotuZia, can you explain to me a little bit what the delay feedback loop does, im using it right now and i see it doing things but i dont know exactly what is going on

Hi Homonculus,

Yes of course : In a standard delay, well there's no filter. In some delays like Le Masque 1.0 the filter is placed at the entry of the delay line, and the then the delay line operates in a normal way except it process a filtered signal.

Then some quite rare delays ( afaik as I dont know them all ) have the possibility to put the filter inside the delay loop, so that each successive echo of the delay line will pass thru the filter again, while it has already been filtered before ( so you can see it as a kind of cumulative effect also ), wich is what gave these kind of delays a special sonic character generally associated (but not only) with the specific sound of dub etc etc. If you push a bit the rez you can have some really interesting colors. If you push too much the rez, then the "invisible limiters friends" will handle the case, but still be a bit carefull with your audio system

And yes the version 1.1 has been released yesterday . I'll try to post soon some audio examples with the possibility to modulate the Pan and Level of the Delay lines via the Masks "Level" parameters, or mod wheel etc.

LtZ

[Homunculus]

thanks LotuZia, I understand it now, I see what it does and how it reacts to the resonance and drive thank you, getting out of topic, do you guys ever think about making a modern synth plug, something of your own creation and design, with your coding and great filters it would be wonderful

[LotuZia]

Originally Posted by Homunculus

thanks LotuZia, I understand it now, I see what it does and how it reacts to the resonance and drive thank you, getting out of topic, do you guys ever think about making a modern synth plug, something of your own creation and design, with your coding and great filters it would be wonderful

Hi Homonculus,

Well its not a so simple answer. I think I have first to reformulate your question : The three Xils-Lab synths, while beeing emulations of venerable ancesters, are in many ways modern synths as well : I'll try to explain that in the shortest way, but still it will be a bit a features list, so sorry for that :

In each synth, there are a number of unique features, wich not only did not exist on the original synth, but also dont exist in any other modern synth : So are the sequencers of the three synths, wich all have special features, like acting as modulations sources for the synth parameters. So are the morphing analog oscillators of the PolyKBII, .... wich are also modulation targets. So are the Pmyx superb per voice stereo module, wich combined with the voice modes can give you really complex stereo scenes, as well as the Dynamix modulation matrix. So are the ChaoX and Rythm LFOs on the SYnthix, or the 4 Sync Dadsr, or the multiple interactions of [keyboards, key modes (including the guitar mode) arpeggiator, sequencers and layers] , so are the cumulative LFOs and OSCs of the SYnthix. The same applies with our zero-delay filter algorythms wich are continuously enhanced for now 4 years. etc etc.

So in a way we think that we make modern synths ( ooops mode ON ). But its also true that for people we're still in the emulation niche market.

To try to sum up all this, I'd say that we work hard to propose some beautiful and expressive musical instruments. Some instruments wich will stand their place in a mix, pleasurable and hopefully rewardable to play with.

So, this being said, Le Masque is the first unit wich does not replicate an "ancient" material because the entire workflow is based on new principles and ideas. And yes we will continue in that direction to propose people some innovative units, whether effects or musical instruments, with some more modern UI and populated with what we see as both musical and innovative functions.

But, in a way, our goal will stay unchanged : Zero compromise audio quality, zero compromise musicality, zero compromise joy of making music, I'm inclined to say that its with the same spirit and love of instrument that we'll take this new journey into the sound.

So new UIs, GUIs, workflows, filters there will be, while preserving the spirit, and listening to our users

Hope it answers the question.

[Homunculus]

you should've stayed quiet, now I have to get one of your synths! I produce all kinds of music, I love downtempo stuff, lounge(this is why I got le masque,perfect for creating mystical soundscapes) but my day job is commercial dance and pop music because its what makes me money, out of your three synths which would be the best for the commercial stuff?

[LotuZia]

Originally Posted by Homunculus

you should've stayed quiet, now I have to get one of your synths! I produce all kinds of music, I love downtempo stuff, lounge(this is why I got le masque,perfect for creating mystical soundscapes) but my day job is commercial dance and pop music because its what makes me money, out of your three synths which would be the best for the commercial stuff?

Ooops sorry for that

Hmm difficult to answer, so some simple clues :

PolyKB II is the closest to what people identify as the typical "round" analog sound. Synthix had DCOs, so its another era ( the last ) of true analog stuff, and it has a great depth in programming because of its 8 layers architecture etc, it can be very punchy. Xils 3 is a total modular stuff, you can connect anything with anything and it has therefore a status of research synth, and can be at times rather unpredictable, like its VCS3 ancester was famous for, so its perfect for raw and crazy effects, but it can also make some regular stuff as well.

Then when I want to first test a synth, I give an ear to the possible audio demos and/or videos available, if any. ( Yes I believe I can read in audio demos Lol ) I think this is to save me the time of installing a demo etc etc ( and to desinstall it after )

Then when I liked the audio demos I just install the synth, and immediatly browse some presets, play and eventually tweak them to my taste ( only if necessary ) Because well a synth is made to play music, so I just try this. Then, and only if the two previous steps have given me a nice feeling, I might enter some more scientist attitude and begin to scan the behaviour of pure oscillators, filters etc. But its mainly the stage 2 wich tells me if a synth is desirable for me, or less desirable.

So from my experience I'd say that the PolyKB II and Synthix are equally usefull in commercial styles, but the addition of Xils3 is aso very cool, it depends mainly if commercial means really mainstream, or might incorporates some more fancy elements.

So I'd suggest you first take a good coffee and spend some minutes to listen to the audio demos on Xils site ; There are minitracks demos, but imho more important, there are separate instruments demos ( instruments in isolation)

The separate instruments demos give you clues about the sonic character of each synth, and the minitracks demos will hopefully give you clues about if the synths can take their place in a full mix. In all cases these are total naked truth demos, no post processing, compressors, automations etc etc.

Then if you like the sound, the DL page of the dongleless demo versions are one click from the audio demos page.

Also the filters from Le Masque are directly inherited from the Synthix ones.

Ok here are some links for the audio demos of the different synths :

Synthix

Synthix Sound sets

Synthix_Audio

on this one the separate auddio demos are in the midde of the page

PolyKB II

PolyKB_Audio

PolyKB II Sound sets

Xils 3

XILS 3 Soundsets

[LotuZia]

Here two quick new demos to illustrate some of the new features of Le Masque version 1.1 :

Stereo Masks

Feedback or no Feedback ?

Stereo demoes the ability to modulate the pan the delays ( in this demo its the Mask Level wich acts as the modulator there's no real time action ) First the dry clip, then the clip processed with Le Masque

Feedback no feedback shows the different sonic character of Le Masque when the delay is inserted or not in the feedback loop. First the dry clip, then processed without filter in feedback, then with the filter in the feedback loop, and finally the wet only signal of both versions.

And the two videos so that people wich might visit this thread without any clues on Le Masque can see a bit what it is :





And then .... the intro price ( 39€ ) is still valid until Feb 28th :wink:

[LotuZia]

Another short audio demos featuring V1.1 new possibilities :

Subtle Masks on Drums

First dry 8 bars then processed : What to hear : New bongoes stereo and dynamic rythm created from the original bongoes, Shakers created from the Hi-Hats in the loop, and more subtle : Snare Drums " Ras de 3" ( ie when the drummer keeps his stick boucing lightly after a hit ) created from the snares. All done in 5 mn. Drums are a Battery 3 stock kit.

[LotuZia]

Little reminder : Only six days until the end of introductory price 39€ ( Msrp 59€ )

[bigjamesmonroe]

Hi LotuZia,

I am a registered user. I purchased Le Masque from audioMIDI.com.

When I click on a drop down menu in Le Masque AU the program freezes and I have to force quite Digital Performer or Peak.

PPC G5 Dual 2.0
16GB RAM
OS 10.4.11
Digital Performer 6.02
Peak Pro 6.1.1

VST Le Masque is working in both DP and Peak... but I would rather use Audio Unit in DP so I don't have to load VST Wrapper.

Thank you for your help. I look forward to learning to better use Le Masque. It would be nice if the presets were a little more understandable to a non-math person like me i.e. maybe more "musical" terms. : - )

It would also be nice to have some very simple presets like repeat 2 and 4.

Again, thank you.

Best,
James

[Xavier]

Originally Posted by bigjamesmonroe

When I click on a drop down menu in Le Masque AU the program freezes and I have to force quite Digital Performer or Peak.

PPC G5 Dual 2.0
16GB RAM
OS 10.4.11
Digital Performer 6.02
Peak Pro 6.1.1

Thanks for your report James,

It seems that the actual AU version is not compatible with PowerPC.
An update is plan very soon and will include this fix.

Best regards

[Whitecat]

Just jumped in on this at the last minute before the special ends...

Anyway, was going to try it out firstly on a loop in Peak Pro (7.0.3), but the GUI (as an Audio Unit) is completely unresponsive in Peak. Actually, it lets you click one thing and one thing only... after that, basically the whole application hangs... Peak has to be force-quit. This is the 32-bit version as Peak is a 32-bit host. The "hang" is not a "beach ball" - it's just a totally unresponsive program. The OS does not even think it's "not responding."

The VST works perfectly fine (and that's odd because with Peak it's usually the other way around).

Running OSX 10.7.2 here.

[Xavier]

Originally Posted by Whitecat

Just jumped in on this at the last minute before the special ends...

Anyway, was going to try it out firstly on a loop in Peak Pro (7.0.3), but the GUI (as an Audio Unit) is completely unresponsive in Peak. Actually, it lets you click one thing and one thing only... after that, basically the whole application hangs... Peak has to be force-quit. This is the 32-bit version as Peak is a 32-bit host. The "hang" is not a "beach ball" - it's just a totally unresponsive program. The OS does not even think it's "not responding."

The VST works perfectly fine (and that's odd because with Peak it's usually the other way around).

Running OSX 10.7.2 here.

Thanks for this report : I just tried Peak pro (6) and got the same result. Very weird (AU not working, VST working fine) because LeMasque:Delay is working fine with all the other AU host we tested.
Anyway, we will fix this asap.

Best regards
Xavier

[sonicdefault]

^
If it's the result of a Cocoa GUI issue, Bias is aware of the problem, but hasn't commented on when a fix will be available.



-SD

[Silver Sonya]

I have tried to buy this delay several times. Something keeps going wrong after the paypal screen. Anybody else getting this problem?

Strange and frustrating.

- c

[cane creek]

Originally Posted by Silver Sonya

I have tried to buy this delay several times. Something keeps going wrong after the paypal screen. Anybody else getting this problem?

Strange and frustrating.

- c

Funny just this minute I'm having problems too, the PayPal is all in French and there's no option for United kingdom/England/great Britain etc in the drop down menu... Can't understand what I'm pressing, so I keep guessing and just go around in circles lol

[Silver Sonya]

Yup. That's my experience as well.

Every time, the transaction seems to go through and then I get sent to an error page.

Irritating.

- c

[cane creek]

I was having this problem with my iPad, I've now bought via my desktop and it's worked ok.

[bigjamesmonroe]

Originally Posted by Xavier

Thanks for your report James,

It seems that the actual AU version is not compatible with PowerPC.
An update is plan very soon and will include this fix.

Best regards

THANK YOU Xavier... I totally appreciate your attention to this AU problem in Digital Performer 6.02 and Peak 6.1.1 / Power PC OS X 10.4.11.

God bless.

[LotuZia]

Originally Posted by bigjamesmonroe

Hi LotuZia,

I am a registered user. I purchased Le Masque from audioMIDI.com.

When I click on a drop down menu in Le Masque AU the program freezes and I have to force quite Digital Performer or Peak.

PPC G5 Dual 2.0
16GB RAM
OS 10.4.11
Digital Performer 6.02
Peak Pro 6.1.1

VST Le Masque is working in both DP and Peak... but I would rather use Audio Unit in DP so I don't have to load VST Wrapper.

Thank you for your help. I look forward to learning to better use Le Masque. It would be nice if the presets were a little more understandable to a non-math person like me i.e. maybe more "musical" terms. : - )

It would also be nice to have some very simple presets like repeat 2 and 4.

Again, thank you.

Best,
James

Hi James,

Thanks.

So Xavier answered for the AU version problems in Peak. A weird one because AU validates on other hosts but well .... this will be fixed.

As for the presets, I'll make some additional ones wich will be included in the next version. So when you say "repeat 2 and 4" , I'll assume that it means : Repeat beat 2 and 4 of a bar ( ie the place where the snare drum appears in a standard 4/4 rythm for example ) and not "each delay repeats 2 times or 4 times " ( ie number of "echoes" ) ?

Anyway I'll make some new presets that use the new 1.1 functions ie the autopan and volume modulations, and the delay in the feedback loop for huge Dub effects for examples

There are already around 100 presets iirc in Le MAsque Delay edition, wich is not bad for a delay unit. But dont worry, we'll add some more.

To Silver Sonya, or people having problems with the Paypal process : Just join us via our info page and we'll try to arrange something if possible, or eventually please try another browser or a desktop/laptop machine rather than Ipad etc.

Thanks for reading. Also today is the last day for the intro price. Hmmmm all best things must come to an end eventually

LtZ

[bigjamesmonroe]

Originally Posted by LotuZia

Hi James,

Thanks.

So Xavier answered for the AU version problems in Peak. A weird one because AU validates on other hosts but well .... this will be fixed.

As for the presets, I'll make some additional ones wich will be included in the next version. So when you say "repeat 2 and 4" , I'll assume that it means : Repeat beat 2 and 4 of a bar ( ie the place where the snare drum appears in a standard 4/4 rythm for example ) and not "each delay repeats 2 times or 4 times " ( ie number of "echoes" ) ?

Anyway I'll make some new presets that use the new 1.1 functions ie the autopan and volume modulations, and the delay in the feedback loop for huge Dub effects for examples

There are already around 100 presets iirc in Le MAsque Delay edition, wich is not bad for a delay unit. But dont worry, we'll add some more.

To Silver Sonya, or people having problems with the Paypal process : Just join us via our info page and we'll try to arrange something if possible, or eventually please try another browser or a desktop/laptop machine rather than Ipad etc.

Thanks for reading. Also today is the last day for the intro price. Hmmmm all best things must come to an end eventually

LtZ

Hi LtZ,

RE: AU
It's not just AU problem in Peak, it's also in DP 6.02 / OS X 10.4.11 / PPC G5.

Xavier said the problem is that Le Masque AU is not compatible with Mac Power PC at this time... but it will be in an update. That's good news because I am not the only composer with an "older" system. I spent about $25K U.S. on this system more than 5 years ago but it is still perfect for me.

RE: PRESETS
Yes, repeat the 2 beat and repeat the 4 beat. I tried to make Le Masque do that, but I could not get it to repeat 2 and 4.

I try to repeat 2 as a triplet and 4 as a triplet. No luck. I'll keep working on it... BUT... if you could create some basic presets it would be very helpful.

A few simple presets would be helpful because with a simple preset it would be easier for me to learn and understand what Le Masque is doing. Then I could turn on the click track (metronome) for a guide and start experimenting. Does that make sense? :-)

The one hundred presets in Le Masque are very interesting. I already made a rhythm bed for a new piece of music today... but I am not quite sure what Le Masque is doing because I only did it by "ear". I really, really, would like to understand Le Masque better... so it would really help to have some basic beats that I can experiment with against a click track... and then I can build from there because THE MASK is what I want to master.

I believe Le Masque has the potential to be a VERY powerful rhythmic sound design plugin. Very different from Echo Boy or Chrystallizer. Why? Because of the MASK!

OK LtZ... thanks for your time. God bless. : - )