Eventide H3000 Factory - Native

[junior]

Originally Posted by boon

it's a bizarre thing not t have a Mac VST version. i hope they realize that and fix it.

Yeah, no Mac VST might keep me on the sidelines...

So, I guess my choices are:
1) shell out $150 for an iLok plug that I can't use initially and hope they add a Mac VST version...
2) spend $400+ on a Pitchfactor pedal for the pitch fx, but miss out on all the other cool fx... or,
3) spend $600+ on a used H3000...

Anyone experienced with these care to offer any advice?

[Animus]

Originally Posted by junior

Yeah, no Mac VST might keep me on the sidelines...

So, I guess my choices are:
1) shell out $150 for an iLok plug that I can't use initially and hope they add a Mac VST version...
2) spend $400+ on a Pitchfactor pedal for the pitch fx, but miss out on all the other cool fx... or,
3) spend $600+ on a used H3000...

Anyone experienced with these care to offer any advice?

You could always use the au with VE Pro.

[adamcal]

Originally Posted by junior

Yeah, no Mac VST might keep me on the sidelines...

So, I guess my choices are:
1) shell out $150 for an iLok plug that I can't use initially and hope they add a Mac VST version...
2) spend $400+ on a Pitchfactor pedal for the pitch fx, but miss out on all the other cool fx... or,
3) spend $600+ on a used H3000...

Anyone experienced with these care to offer any advice?

I would get the hardware, (actually I already have several) for this reason. More fun than just another plug in.

get the full h3000 experience, including the convertors.

use it on as many tracks as you want, (by recording 100% wet signal for each part you want it on)

no ILOK, no mucking around with plugins when you reinstall, update OS, change daws or computers and so on.

your fx are always there forever recorded on seperate tracks with the song.

a nice warm transformer hum to keep you company during winter.

[Lifer]

Originally Posted by deft_bonz

I'll compare it to my hardware and then I'll see how it sounds. The H3000 has very nice distinctive sound. That's why I love to use it as a hardware.

Heh..don't bother..the H3000 blows the plugin away!
i have it as TDM in Pro Tools HD..nice for some things as is the Band Delay plugin..the algorithms "do" what the hardware does..but they are kidding if they are trying to pretend that it "sounds" the same.. not even close in my honest opinion.
So yes..i can run loads of H3000's inside my DAW..however NEVER get rid of your hardware..the plugin does not have that special something the H3000 has at all..

[elambo]

Originally Posted by adamcal

get the full h3000 experience

...of the clunkiest user interface ever conceived.

The plugin is a bit like what the MIDI editor meant to provide for the hardware, but it's substantially easier to navigate (though still not exactly Massey in its simplicity).

[junior]

Originally Posted by Animus

You could always use the au with VE Pro.

What's VE Pro?

[boon]

Originally Posted by elambo

...of the clunkiest user interface ever conceived.

you're forgetting about the yamaha FS1r

[boon]

Originally Posted by junior

What's VE Pro?

vienna ensemble pro


but you could more easily run Plogue Bidule in plug in mode and run it in any host as a VST/AU.

[schmuck]

Originally Posted by adamcal

a nice warm transformer hum to keep you company during winter.

[bryan k]

is it March yet????

I seriously cant wait for this H3000 plugin.......the wait is killing me........

[Animus]

Originally Posted by bryan k

is it March yet????

I seriously cant wait for this H3000 plugin.......the wait is killing me........

You can out and get a real H3000 right now. No need to torment yourself so.

[hollo321]

neone have experience with the pitch factor? really need something for vocal, guitar, and synth thikening/widening n never found plugins like waves doubler or soundtoys to sound very good for these things like too phasey just doesnt sound right/good, does the pitch factor sound as good as its bigger brothers the h3000,8000...?
thnks

[Beyersound]

Originally Posted by hollo321

neone have experience with the pitch factor? just interested in pitch fx for things like vocal n synth thikening/widening n never found plugins like waves doubler or soundtoys to sound good for these things, does the pitch factor sound as good as its bigger brothers the h3000,8000...?
thnks

Actually the Soundtoys Crystallizer is quite good at that task once you figure out how to edit the delay and splice properly. The secret is to run 2 instances, one micro pitch +, and one micropitch -. You can get nice thick synths and vox.

[hollo321]

thnkks for the tip ,ill give it a go

[Beyersound]

Originally Posted by hollo321

thnkks for the tip ,ill give it a go

If you need any help getting what you want from it, PM me.

[Dz7]

Originally Posted by hollo321

neone have experience with the pitch factor? really need something for vocal, guitar, and synth thikening/widening n never found plugins like waves doubler or soundtoys to sound very good for these things like too phasey just doesnt sound right/good, does the pitch factor sound as good as its bigger brothers the h3000,8000...?
thnks

For anyone who's interested, the Pitch Factor DOES NOT have the classic randomized de-tune feature that the H3000, etc has. I personally contacted Eventide's engineers last year!

Hope this clears up any confusion.

[junior]

Originally Posted by Dz7

For anyone who's interested, the Pitch Factor DOES NOT have the classic randomized de-tune feature that the H3000, etc has. I personally contacted Eventide's engineers last year!

Hope this clears up any confusion.

Really? I heard that it did. Could this have been added in a software update or something? Anyone got the 411?

[Dz7]

Originally Posted by junior

Really? I heard that it did. Could this have been added in a software update or something? Anyone got the 411?

Possible..

3/22/11

***

Hi,



That’s correct, you cannot transmit audio through the USB connection. I asked one of my engineers about your other question and he said the following:



We didn’t explicitly include any of the “green” mode operation of the H949 (except for it being a delay). There is no flange, random or reverse.



Best regards,



Jerome Hyman

Audio Support Technician

Tel: 201-641-1200

Email: jhyman@eventide.com

[junior]

Thanks for posting that. I'll have to investigate further...

[henge]

Originally Posted by Beyersound

Actually the Soundtoys Crystallizer is quite good at that task once you figure out how to edit the delay and splice properly. The secret is to run 2 instances, one micro pitch +, and one micropitch -. You can get nice thick synths and vox.

Hmm please explain your settings for this. I have to try this setup!

[Dz7]

Originally Posted by junior

Thanks for posting that. I'll have to investigate further...

No worries! Looks like we had the same sneaky idea, ha ha.

[davidperetz]

Originally Posted by hollo321

neone have experience with the pitch factor? really need something for vocal, guitar, and synth thikening/widening n never found plugins like waves doubler or soundtoys to sound very good for these things like too phasey just doesnt sound right/good, does the pitch factor sound as good as its bigger brothers the h3000,8000...?
thnks

Try Valhalla UberMod for that doubler effect, the pitchfactor is a complete dissapointment can't even track an octave below without sounding like a joke synth. I could never get that doubler right with soundtoys the only other doubler i liked was Schwa CMX, but Ubermod has plenty more fantastic stuff than just being a doubler. Try it, it's a masterpiece of a plugin.

[vibralux]

I bought the hardware H3000 d/se few months ago. Honestly - nothing ITB comes close to its silky, wide sound (I tried Soudtoys, valhalla and audiodamage) Its so cool its ridicoulous. I would be very surprised if the software version did the same thing.

[KBToys]

Originally Posted by vibralux

I bought the hardware H3000 d/se few months ago. Honestly - nothing ITB comes close to its silky, wide sound (I tried Soudtoys, valhalla and audiodamage) Its so cool its ridicoulous. I would be very surprised if the software version did the same thing.

Which D/SE patches do you like? I'm was pretty involved with the H3000 design, and started SoundToys, and it's always nice to hear what you like, or not.

- Ken

[truelight]

Originally Posted by Beyersound

Actually the Soundtoys Crystallizer is quite good at that task once you figure out how to edit the delay and splice properly. The secret is to run 2 instances, one micro pitch +, and one micropitch -. You can get nice thick synths and vox.

The tweak page of the Crystallizer has a pitch offset knob that does something similar ... Can you share a preset example (or two really) of the effect you're talking about? I'm curious to hear it

[KBToys]

Originally Posted by truelight

The tweak page of the Crystallizer has a pitch offset knob that does something similar ... Can you share a preset example (or two really) of the effect you're talking about? I'm curious to hear it

I wonder why you would need to run two instances of Crystallizer? You can do +/- shifting with a single instance of Crystallizer. Keep in mind that Crystallizer was never designed to be a dedicated doubling/microshifting plug-in and isn't optimized for that so you can get some artifacts (which may or may not be cool depending on what your doing) when it's used that way.

Ken
SoundToys

[fromOhio]

How do you do +/- pitch shifting w/in Chrystallizer [Using Logic 8.0 / Garageband '11] Thanks!

[truelight]

Originally Posted by KBToys

I wonder why you would need to run two instances of Crystallizer? You can do +/- shifting with a single instance of Crystallizer. Keep in mind that Crystallizer was never designed to be a dedicated doubling/microshifting plug-in and isn't optimized for that so you can get some artifacts (which may or may not be cool depending on what your doing) when it's used that way.

Ken
SoundToys

Originally Posted by fromOhio

How do you do +/- pitch shifting w/in Chrystallizer [Using Logic 8.0 / Garageband '11] Thanks!

That's what I meant as well Ken ... the Pitch Offset knob adds + and - shifting so I was wondering what Beyersound would do differently with two instances.

[henge]

Originally Posted by davidperetz

Try Valhalla UberMod for that doubler effect, the pitchfactor is a complete dissapointment can't even track an octave below without sounding like a joke synth. I could never get that doubler right with soundtoys the only other doubler i liked was Schwa CMX, but Ubermod has plenty more fantastic stuff than just being a doubler. Try it, it's a masterpiece of a plugin.

No doubt Ubermod and CMX do a great job at doubling, but the Echoboy doubling presets are as good imo.

[LeMauce]

Originally Posted by henge

No doubt Ubermod and CMX do a great job at doubling, but the Echoboy doubling presets are as good imo.

Indeed, aldo you need to "tweak" it a bit or putting to in serie...