8Dio Adagio (new string library)

[SPOTS]

It's actually fair to say that 600$ for just one register is pretty expensive and when adding violas, cellos and basses editions, it will far exceed the price tag of most competitive products.

[Silver Sonya]

Yes, this will be an expensive, high end library. They're confident in its intrinsic value and are pricing it as such.

I thought the discount was an introductory price, but if I'm reading correctly, it's only extended to pre-orders?

Anyone know the answer?

- c

[Silver Sonya]

That would be super unfortunate for me. I don't have the dough yet!

- c

[Animus]

Originally Posted by SPOTS

It's actually fair to say that 600$ for just one register is pretty expensive and when adding violas, cellos and basses editions, it will far exceed the price tag of most competitive products.

Fair point but most other products don't have ensembles, divisi, solo instruments and 10 different legatos. There's a lot of stuff in there.

[donethur]

mine is already ordered

cant wait to use the solo violin!

[VitaEtMusica]

In the demos, the solo violin is the best I've heard. I just don't quite get if they are playing those parts or if they are prerecorded phrases with TM Pro.

[SPOTS]

Did you guys know that 8dio doesn't allow any license transfer? What means we better know what we buy in advance, 'cos we are then stuck with the product and the impossibility to sell it second hand. Must be some kinda lifetime licensing... I don't recall having to deal with such licensing policy ever. Makes me hesitant to order the product. I think I will wait to hear some more demos/walkthrough videos and users feedback.

Originally Posted by VitaEtMusica

In the demos, the solo violin is the best I've heard. I just don't quite get if they are playing those parts or if they are prerecorded phrases with TM Pro.

I believe it's both. And it's kinda easy to pick anyway (can't see how a VSTi which aims at setting us free from MIDI CC tweakings could deliver such expression in leads).

Originally Posted by Animus

Fair point but most other products don't have ensembles, divisi, solo instruments and 10 different legatos. There's a lot of stuff in there.

That's true, but there is also a lot of stuff in East West libraries and others.

Now I must say that the sound I hear in the demos is very appealing. Am just a bit concerned about the tuning that is a tad off on some glissandi (eg: E.T. Legato demo @20").

I was also wondering about a short frequency emphasis occuring at 23" in the same demo, which makes me wonder if it's part of the articulation or if it's due to whatever external artefacts.

In demo #6 however I hear multiple noises (sounding similar to soft audio clics).

[Animus]

Originally Posted by SPOTS

Did you guys know that 8dio doesn't allow any license transfer? What means we better know what we buy in advance, 'cos we are then stuck with the product and the impossibility to sell it second hand. Must be some kinda lifetime licensing... I don't recall having to deal with such licensing policy ever. Makes me hesitant to order the product. I think I will wait to hear some more demos/walkthrough videos and users feedback.



I believe it's both. And it's kinda easy to pick anyway (can't see how a VSTi which aims at setting us free from MIDI CC tweakings could deliver such expression in leads).


That's true, but there is also a lot of stuff in East West libraries and others.

Now I must say that the sound I hear in the demos is very appealing. Am just a bit concerned about the tuning that is a tad off on some glissandi (eg: E.T. Legato demo @20").

I was also wondering about a short frequency emphasis occuring at 23" in the same demo, which makes me wonder if it's part of the articulation or if it's due to whatever external artefacts.

In demo #6 however I hear multiple noises (sounding similar to soft audio clics).

EastWest doesn't allow license transfers either and they are dongle, and you are doomed to PLAY for the rest of your life.

[SPOTS]

Really? Didn't know that. I am glad I didn't upgrade my QLSO and Choir from the NI platform then. I tried the Play engine (v1.x) on Fab Four and MOR and it definitely didn't make me feel like upgrading my other EW instruments.

[Danz03]

They didn't really explained it properly. Not sure if it'll be like how they did it with their Legacy Scoring Grand; the price was $149 before it was released in Feb, and they said it will be $199 'later'; now that it's out, but it will still be $149 until the 1st of March.

Originally Posted by Silver Sonya

Yes, this will be an expensive, high end library. They're confident in its intrinsic value and are pricing it as such.

I thought the discount was an introductory price, but if I'm reading correctly, it's only extended to pre-orders?

Anyone know the answer?

- c

[SPOTS]

I'd guess they would keep the pre-order offer running at least for a bit once the product is available. But if it's really a pre-order offer it's meant to close down by the date of the launch (which is not specified either).

[donethur]

Originally Posted by VitaEtMusica

In the demos, the solo violin is the best I've heard. I just don't quite get if they are playing those parts or if they are prerecorded phrases with TM Pro.

As far I know, it is all playable. There is a Solo violin product made with phrases that is going to be released to the market soon, but it is a totally different product.

cheers!

[donethur]

Originally Posted by SPOTS

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Now I must say that the sound I hear in the demos is very appealing. Am just a bit concerned about the tuning that is a tad off on some glissandi (eg: E.T. Legato demo @20").

I was also wondering about a short frequency emphasis occuring at 23" in the same demo, which makes me wonder if it's part of the articulation or if it's due to whatever external artefacts.

In demo #6 however I hear multiple noises (sounding similar to soft audio clics).

They are working on the library. It is not finished yet.

This is the answer they post in their Facebook when people ask about the release date of Adagio:

"We don't have an exact release date yet. We are in the stage of polishing the library and tuning all the bits and pieces to perfection. We want users to have the full experience from the get-go. One of the reasons is that we are hand-tuning every single legato transition and that itself takes some time when you have +10 different types of legato. round-robin with x10 reps, extensively sampled sets of dynamic bowings, loures etc."

cheers!

[SPOTS]

Cool. Thanks for sharing.

[Animus]

Troels announced the release date has been pushed back a couple of months to May 1st. Sucks for the people who already preordered. To be expec†ed with vaporware though.

[SPOTS]

10 weeks to go 'til the release. Ok. It's definitely a good thing to know. I guess I will upgrade my LASS sooner than I planned then.

[Silver Sonya]

I'm glad for this, 'cause I don't have the dough to spend on it right now.

Just bought some expensive stuff and I'm broke.

- c

[sonicdefault]

^
I'm happy for you and anyone else who might be able to get the pre-order pricing :-)

I orded a couple of weeks ago, so I'm a little disappointed because I was already preparing to put it to use.. However, I've learned a lot about patience over the years. I'm sure it will be worth the wait.


-SD

[muziksculp]

Given that 8dio are planning to release Vol.1 Violins , followed by Vol. 1 Violas, Cellos, and Basses. This is surely a high-end strings library, Adagio Violins being the first of Vol. 1 to be released this month (Feb).

Most likely Vol. 2 will have more to offer !

Yes, It's not cheap when you consider getting the entire Vol.1 Strings, and it will take quite a bit of time for Vol.1 to be completed.

Bottom line... I think it is a great investment for serious composers seeking great sounding Strings library, with a lot of expressive, warm, and emotional characteristics. Which seems to be the weak link in many other Strings libraries these days.

Patience is a Precious Resource, (it's never easy to wait) but...it always pays off well.

Looking forward to Adagio Strings

[Equiv_Exchange]

Colin O'Malley is an animal

[gutr2]

I assume all you guys realize you need full Kontakt for this?
Deal breaker for me unfortunately..

[Danz03]

Yes, but Kontakt is a very good interface, you only need to get it once and there are a lot of good quality 3rd party products available for it. It's totally worth it for me.

[Silver Sonya]

Pretty soon, not having Kontakt is gonna be like not having Microsoft Word.

- c

[Johnkenn]

It just annoys me because I really don't need another 1000 sounds I'm not going to use...I've got already Sampletank, UVI, Xpand, etc...and never use them. This i what makes people turn to cracks.

[Animus]

Originally Posted by Johnkenn

It just annoys me because I really don't need another 1000 sounds I'm not going to use...I've got already Sampletank, UVI, Xpand, etc...and never use them. This i what makes people turn to cracks.

Sounds like you just don't use strings and the product is not for you? Or are you saying you only want some of the string articulation patches a la carte?

[gutr2]

I will try to go without as long as I can then!
Well.. I use 95% real instruments, so for the odd VI, I don't want to have to dish out the cash for full kontakt. Maybe if Apple release a better EXS24 with the next Logic version, more VI manufacturers will release multi-format samples..

Originally Posted by Silver Sonya

Pretty soon, not having Kontakt is gonna be like not having Microsoft Word.

- c

[sonicdefault]

Originally Posted by Johnkenn

It just annoys me because I really don't need another 1000 sounds I'm not going to use...I've got already Sampletank, UVI, Xpand, etc...and never use them. This i what makes people turn to cracks.

I'm sure you know, you don't have to install the library. I only have about 50% installed.



-SD

[gutr2]

But you still have to PAY for them..

Originally Posted by sonicdefault

I'm sure you know, you don't have to install the library. I only have about 50% installed.



-SD

[Johnkenn]

Originally Posted by Animus

Sounds like you just don't use strings and the product is not for you? Or are you saying you only want some of the string articulation patches a la carte?

No - I use strings all the time...I mostly use VSL Chamber Strings, but these violins sound MUCH better. I don't get too deep with keyswitching and different articulations, so I love the way these seem to really respond with just the touch of playing. As for the big samplers, the only strings worth a damn in any of those were in Kontakt Elements that I bought...but still don't seem as good as Chamber Strings. I'm sure I'll probably get sucked in and buy Kontakt...

[Animus]

Originally Posted by Johnkenn

No - I use strings all the time...I mostly use VSL Chamber Strings, but these violins sound MUCH better. I don't get too deep with keyswitching and different articulations, so I love the way these seem to really respond with just the touch of playing. As for the big samplers, the only strings worth a damn in any of those were in Kontakt Elements that I bought...but still don't seem as good as Chamber Strings. I'm sure I'll probably get sucked in and buy Kontakt...

oh I must have misunderstood what 1,000 patches you were referring too.