Presonus Studio One V2

[an.unna.kid]

Originally Posted by soulata

p.s.: I feel S2 is actually worth the money (as opposed to equally expensive PT10 upgrade)

LOL... I feel sorry for PT owners... I almost shit in my pants when I saw some of the news in PT 10 which where really similar to S1 1.6...
Oh crap I'm just going to say it out loud... PT is soooo 90's

[Solar]

Originally Posted by jimmydeluxe

Yes, the pin is a working solution, I guess I'd just prefer it as default. This brings me another thought--I'd love for ESC to close an open GUI rather than having to click-close...

The fact that these are the things we're discussing and not, "Why are there (still) pops/clicks every time I bounce?" or "Why does this keep crashing?" (I'm looking at you LOGIC) is AMAZING! This DAW has me really, really excited.

I see a great future for SO, also--users not to be abandoned when the company gets sold, because they are already established in audio. At least I hope...

The thing is that, as you know we have to have always Option for both (those who like to have their plugin Box Gui always Open or not right? I think in Preference, I have to double check, you can make that happen to have plugin always On TOP, otherwise, you should see that happening pretty soon in next update.
Also, Indeed, the "Escape" is a great idea but I think there must an F something to do so. One thing you can do if you want to show up a plugin of track quickly, is simply HIT F11 and it will bring the Chain Window plugin of that specific track. That goes also with a Vsti etc...


As for the great future for S1, yes indeed it has a great on ahead and I don't think these guys started this to let it fade away soon. S1 is a huge competitor in the real DAW world and wait and see whats coming. Just hold your breath

Good luck & keep digging

Cheers

[Alexfrbc]

Originally Posted by soulata

- how do you visualy automate sends (as they don't appear as tracks anywhere)

- I already have Melodyne Essential but can't for the life of me make it work in S1v2 demo

Sends: I usually right-click on the send itself on the mixer, and choose "Edit automation" Now it pops up as an automation in the arrangement.

About melodyne, i read somewhere that you may need to delete some preference files if nothing works. Maybe others can chime in on this ?

[gmaister22]

Nice!

I can't decide which one to buy, Logic or S1! Damn such a hard decision :D

[soulata]

Originally Posted by Alexfrbc

Sends: I usually right-click on the send itself on the mixer, and choose "Edit automation" Now it pops up as an automation in the arrangement.

About melodyne, i read somewhere that you may need to delete some preference files if nothing works. Maybe others can chime in on this ?

Thanks, will give it a go in the morning.

For Melodyne: maybe it'll work after the Essential update, coming in November


k

[an.unna.kid]

Originally Posted by Alexfrbc

About melodyne, i read somewhere that you may need to delete some preference files if nothing works. Maybe others can chime in on this ?

Nah, it works perfectly here, editing vocals and slightly out of tune guitar chords, it's as easy as saying "pro(be)tools"

[Solar]

Originally Posted by gmaister22

Nice!

I can't decide which one to buy, Logic or S1! Damn such a hard decision :D

If you tried them both, shouldn't be that hard. I think would be simply Logic to choose S1 if it speaks 2 you

[ricknaqvi]

- I already have Melodyne Essential but can't for the life of me make it work in S1v2 demo

You have to be on the latest version of Melodyne (Editor or Essentials) for it to work with StudioOne v2.

Kind Regards,

[soulata]

Originally Posted by ricknaqvi

You have to be on the latest version of Melodyne (Editor or Essentials) for it to work with StudioOne v2.

Kind Regards,

Thanks. I'm on 1.8.

k

[lllubi]

any experience with mixing strictly with plugs which are 64bit floating point ready ?

[PeterN]

Originally Posted by an.unna.kid

LOL... I feel sorry for PT owners... I almost shit in my pants when I saw some of the news in PT 10 which where really similar to S1 1.6...
Oh crap I'm just going to say it out loud... PT is soooo 90's

S1 V2 is really interesting. Impressive to see what these people have done in the past years and how this platform has developed. Definitely worth checking it out.

[trepbale]

Has anyone else had problems w/ CPU bar always being red (though never max'd out), and in/out white noise/static?

I'm using a Digi 002, clocked to a RME ADI-2. All quality cables. System works fine on PT9, no static or CPU problems. My sessions are 96KHz; either 24 or 32-bit floating.

I've submitted a ticket, but no response yet. I have also posted on the Presonus board. I didn't have this problem in V1.6.x, but it has surfaced in V2.

Thanks,
Trep

[4damind]

Some problems here with timing and external synth. If I bounce the track all is ok and the audio is correct in time. Play them realtime and something is wrong with the timing. This makes no difference if I try different options (timestamp).

I tried the same with Cubase 6 and the timing there is accurate. It seems there is something wrong with realtime and external instruments.

Has someone similar problems or is there a workaround?

[kreeper_6]

Originally Posted by trepbale

Has anyone else had problems w/ CPU bar always being red (though never max'd out), and in/out white noise/static?

I'm using a Digi 002, clocked to a RME ADI-2. All quality cables. System works fine on PT9, no static or CPU problems. My sessions are 96KHz; either 24 or 32-bit floating.

I've submitted a ticket, but no response yet. I have also posted on the Presonus board. I didn't have this problem in V1.6.x, but it has surfaced in V2.

Thanks,
Trep

What latency?

I've tried going 96kHz but my current system cannot handle the strain especially with UAD plugins on anything lower than 1024.

[Machine Head]

It's an older bug. I know him from S1V1. My most Hardware runs better now, but my Virus KC don't work normal when I've switched the arpeggiator. You've tested your external synths with arpeggiator too? Also problems?
In Logic and Reaper I 've never had problems with my outboard.

cheers

[4damind]

The latency compensation seems not to work when monitoring external instruments. I tried a very small buffer size and then the timing is ok. With bigger buffer sizes the timing is bad. When recording/bouncing a external synth the delay compensation come into effect and the resulting audio is correct.

[trepbale]

Any buffer really. It only staring happening w/ V2, but I'm scared to check in V1 now. Simple stereo file playback has the noise in and out and the CPU meter never lets me click off the red, but it's not peg'd at all.

Definitely something more under the hood they need to fix w/ CPU utilization. It's been like this in V1 and obviously still not resolved in V2. I've seen a few posts on their forums about it already. For example, I can run a few instances of the most hungry plug I know (Slate FG-x) in pro tools without a problem. I can only run one in Studio One. And that's with little to no other plugs. Any more than that, glitch mania.

I have a i7 w/ 18GB of memory. Separate disks (7200/64 cahce) for everything (one for sessions; one for os; one for VIs; etc). Computer is a beast w/ PT. Not sure what's going on w/ Studio One. I uprgaded after the PT10 announcement crap, but now I think I might just sit put w/ PT9 and see what Presonus comes back with (or try and get my 99 bucks back)...

[kreeper_6]

Originally Posted by trepbale

Any buffer really. It only staring happening w/ V2, but I'm scared to check in V1 now. Simple stereo file playback has the noise in and out and the CPU meter never lets me click off the red, but it's not peg'd at all.

Definitely something more under the hood they need to fix w/ CPU utilization. It's been like this in V1 and obviously still not resolved in V2. I've seen a few posts on their forums about it already. For example, I can run a few instances of the most hungry plug I know (Slate FG-x) in pro tools without a problem. I can only run one in Studio One. And that's with little to no other plugs. Any more than that, glitch mania.

I have a i7 w/ 18GB of memory. Separate disks (7200/64 cahce) for everything (one for sessions; one for os; one for VIs; etc). Computer is a beast w/ PT. Not sure what's going on w/ Studio One. I uprgaded after the PT10 announcement crap, but now I think I might just sit put w/ PT9 and see what Presonus comes back with (or try and get my 99 bucks back)...

That's unfortunate, hopefully they get it all worked out because it really is a great program and your system is highly qualified.

Originally Posted by 4damind

The latency compensation seems not to work when monitoring external instruments. I tried a very small buffer size and then the timing is ok. With bigger buffer sizes the timing is bad. When recording/bouncing a external synth the delay compensation come into effect and the resulting audio is correct.

Yep, I've had that problem in V1 a few times though it had been fixed its back again in V2...Thought it was fixed actually.

[PDC]

Originally Posted by an.unna.kid

LOL... I feel sorry for PT owners... I almost shit in my pants when I saw some of the news in PT 10 which where really similar to S1 1.6...
Oh crap I'm just going to say it out loud... PT is soooo 90's

Not really. Not for the big post houses. Not if you use Avid for video already and need to network with pro studios.

You could not mix a movie on Studio One.

That said. Not everyone needs what PT TDM and HDX has to offer. Heck, most noobie people that buy LE, SE, etc don't maximize it.

[PDC]

Originally Posted by trepbale

Any buffer really. It only staring happening w/ V2, but I'm scared to check in V1 now. Simple stereo file playback has the noise in and out and the CPU meter never lets me click off the red, but it's not peg'd at all.

Definitely something more under the hood they need to fix w/ CPU utilization. It's been like this in V1 and obviously still not resolved in V2. I've seen a few posts on their forums about it already. For example, I can run a few instances of the most hungry plug I know (Slate FG-x) in pro tools without a problem. I can only run one in Studio One. And that's with little to no other plugs. Any more than that, glitch mania.

I have a i7 w/ 18GB of memory. Separate disks (7200/64 cahce) for everything (one for sessions; one for os; one for VIs; etc). Computer is a beast w/ PT. Not sure what's going on w/ Studio One. I uprgaded after the PT10 announcement crap, but now I think I might just sit put w/ PT9 and see what Presonus comes back with (or try and get my 99 bucks back)...

You have something wrong that is not common to SO. I run very large sessions with lots of plugs in SO and I am not taxing my CPU like that. Go to the forums on the Presonus site. There are plenty of people to help you there.

[Oop]

I'm sitting on a fence between Logic and S1 v.2. I've been using Logic and Ableton for years for all my work. S1 v.2 demo has me hooked.

Would there be any reason for me to not use S1 for the post-production on the next film I'm working on? There are a lot of features in S1, I wish Logic had and would benefit my workflow.

Oh, now that I think of it, S1 doesn't do Surround right?

[Phaidon]

Originally Posted by trepbale

Has anyone else had problems w/ CPU bar always being red (though never max'd out), and in/out white noise/static?

+!
Yep,similar behaviour on my MBP 2011 and MR816X
I get a static/white noise blast every once in a while,even when just playing a VSTi(ie.RP Predator)

[dirtboy]

CPU issues here as well (2011 MBP, 2010 MP). As hard as I try to like this program, it has serious stability issues that never show up in Logic on this same system. Weird random spikes show up when cpu activity is under the 30% mark as well as the "transform" (freeze) feature being pretty much broken. I seem to recall having the same impressions with the first version after giving it a thorough shakedown, maybe in time this will get sorted out. Right now though it doesn't seem to be quite stable enough for me.

[anon]

Yes I find transform to be very unreliable, and also slow.

[trepbale]

just thought i'd let you guys know that no one posted a response on the presonus forums since I posted the problem...also, support took 3 days for a response (though same or next business day is the claim) and it was simply a link to computer optimization for audio...really? Since then I've asked they help via a webmeeting and not just more links, but haven't gotten a reply. If nothing by the end of this week, I will be calling for my money back. Avid responded on an issue when PT9 dropped, the next day, and it proved helpful. AND, it was a problem w/ how presonus fireware (firewire mobile) interacted w/ my system's soundcard. Go figure...oh well, i won't derail the thread further, just letting guys know who still have CPU probs that you are most likely on your own. I mean you can hope for patches, but if it's still shaky in V2, doubt we'll see anything and it will simply be branded an issue w/ system setup w/o actually proving it (since PT9 and Reaper work fine)...k, rant done...

[twoifbysea]

Originally Posted by trepbale

just thought i'd let you guys know that no one posted a response on the presonus forums since I posted the problem...also, support took 3 days for a response (though same or next business day is the claim) and it was simply a link to computer optimization for audio...really? Since then I've asked they help via a webmeeting and not just more links, but haven't gotten a reply. If nothing by the end of this week, I will be calling for my money back. Avid responded on an issue when PT9 dropped, the next day, and it proved helpful. AND, it was a problem w/ how presonus fireware (firewire mobile) interacted w/ my system's soundcard. Go figure...oh well, i won't derail the thread further, just letting guys know who still have CPU probs that you are most likely on your own. I mean you can hope for patches, but if it's still shaky in V2, doubt we'll see anything and it will simply be branded an issue w/ system setup w/o actually proving it (since PT9 and Reaper work fine)...k, rant done...

The answers that you may get from the forums are user based. So it's certainly not a failure on Presonus part if you don't receive an answer that you deem helpful. If you have a question for the company then use the appropriate mean to contact them before crying the blues.

PreSonus

[Intergroove]

Mixing From A Ram Disk in Studio One 2 Professional.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlOdCDmaZBA&feature=player_embedded#!

[tele27]

Originally Posted by Lawrence

Yeah. It automatically compensates for your driver I/O latency. The only time you might want to make another minor offset adjustment if maybe you're using really, really slow external converters who's latency isn't known to the system. If that's the case you do it once and store it and forget about it.

Analog processes at close to the speed of light so there is no adjustment necessary to compensate for the pass through latency of an analog device since it doesn't have any latency. The other parts - the driver and buffer latency - are taken care of by themselves.

It says all of that in the manual btw.

Where is the manual?
Link please.

[bluefonia]

Originally Posted by tele27

Where is the manual?

On your computer. Launch Studio One, go to the "Help"-menu and hit "Content".

[Machine Head]

Hi folks,

Update 2.0.2 build 16986 out now:

Studio One 2.0.2 fixes the following issues:

- Keep Automation, solo and insert activation state on track transform
- Ampire has missing custom sounds
- Slicing can be slow and has no progress dialog
- Pencil tool not working in tempo track
- Humanize not applied to velocity
- Show track command does not unhide tracks
- Track not inserted always after selected track
- Split Loop command not working on audio part container
- Stretch cursor is displayed for audio part resize
- Automation "Edit Value" not working for 3rd party plugins
- Manual silence detection values not applied
- Improved drawing performance with many events
- Main Out mono function uses only left channel
- Crash with Strip Silence on long clips
- Clear Recent Files context menu is missing on Start Page
- ProEQ cuts high frequencies in HQ mode
- Sample One does not play second layer
- [Win] DDP export not working
- [OSX] Sound Could upload fails
- [OSX] 64 bit versions of Ampire and OpenAIR have crackles in sound
- [OSX] Installer gives misleading error message after downloading 3rd party plugins
- [OSX] Crash when removing Instrument with right click menu
- [OSX] Slow redraw of detached Mixer

Cheers