Sonimus Satson (Console emulation)

[kingocounty]

Looking forward to trying this; if it's anything like SonEQ, it'll be a winner!

[mikeg09]

Any console in particular?

[Alxi]

looking forward to give it a spin

[Solar]

@pylorca

Daaaaaaaaaaamn it, Senor Pylorca, a mi me gusta what i'm seeing here in these screenshots and mostly description.

I'm sure it will be a great add-on. Looking forward for a nice ride

Thanx for amazing work!

Cheers!

[Surbitone]

This should be good. Nice work

[pylorca]

Originally Posted by mikeg09

Any console in particular?

yes, but I don't want to say since I've taken a part of a console and elsewhere I have take an other part of another console.
but yes, it is based on a high end console.

[ska]

Wauw, looking forward for this!!!! I wonder...are there plans for au 64 bit?

[bitman]

Channel grouping? (A must)

[miro]

Originally Posted by bitman

Channel grouping? (A must)

Why? Because VCC has it? Nope! Using a real console, you'll have to adjust every channel by itself.
I say NO to grouping! Why? Because it would be a factor that would could/would lead to problems...and maybe take 1 year until it works - like VCC..go figure.

[Mercado_Negro]

Originally Posted by miro

Why? Because VCC has it? Nope! Using a real console, you'll have to adjust every channel by itself.
I say NO to grouping! Why? Because it would be a factor that would could/would lead to problems...and maybe take 1 year until it works - like VCC..go figure.

It looks like a very complex feature and apparently it may cause problems in different hosts but I consider it a step forward on mixing methodology and it may change/enhance the way to approach mixes if it fits your workflow. Possibilities like several instances per project of the same plug-in, presets saving, low costs and now grouping is what makes ITB mixing interesting, affordable and fun.

[miro]

Sure, the sky is the limit but it's not a must and certainly not a purchase criteria. (I'm waiting for the "No, if not 64Bit" comments)
Things worked without such features over many years. I will always prefer a plugin that's rock solid and sounds good over a plugin with such a feature,
while it could cause trouble. And hey, I don't think it's such a big deal anyway. This plugin doesn't do 4 or more consoles, where you want to switch between
them and riding the gain knob individually seems like a thing I want to do, same thing as I want to individually set the threshold on individual compressors for each channel.

Ok, enough of this from my side. I apologize and hope the thread will be more about the sound, usability and fun

Good luck and a lot of success with this, Pylorca!

[Dr.Gunjah]

this looks very interesting. will there be a demo version or some kind of "money back" policy? audio demos are ok as a teaser but especially this type of plugin must IMO be tested on your own stuff to get an idea if it's useful for your mixes.

As for the grouping thing... maybe different groups are not that reasonable because it's only one algorithm(?).
though a global bypass for all instances could be handy to see what it does to your mix.
Especially if you have several plugins of this kind. some mixes might sound better with this, others with vcc... etc.

Cheers,
Doc

[b-pole]

great,

you can count me as a new customer...

[SWAN808]

global bypass I find very helpful...interesting...

I am so greedy I thought it might be free...but $39 is not much! The EQ saturation was good for a plugin also...thumbsup

[lydpik]

No RTAS?

[Gemylon]

Originally Posted by lydpik

no rtas?

+1


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[pylorca]

Originally Posted by ska

Wauw, looking forward for this!!!! I wonder...are there plans for au 64 bit?

not yet.

Originally Posted by bitman

Channel grouping? (A must)

no, it's not needed for this plugin because it has a single emulation. anyway, I don't know how this would benefit in satson.

Originally Posted by SWAN808

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I am so greedy I thought it might be free...but $39 is not much! The EQ saturation was good for a plugin also...thumbsup

I have been working for several months on Satson. I have spent much time analyzing, programming, etc...
I think the price is reasonable..

Satson is 3 products in one:

1. Metering and trim.
2. High quality filters
3. Saturation and crosstalk.

And you can also use satson channel for aggressive FX (switching ON "Auto out" and the GAIN controls will works like a DRIVE, with "Super GAIN" you can get more drive.)

Originally Posted by lydpik

No RTAS?

Not yet, if some day avid gives me access to their SDK then I will.

Originally Posted by Dr.Gunjah

this looks very interesting. will there be a demo version or some kind of "money back" policy? audio demos are ok as a teaser but especially this type of plugin must IMO be tested on your own stuff to get an idea if it's useful for your mixes.

You're right. Maybe make a demo version but still not sure.


Cheers

[Agzilla]

Looks interesting, a simpler yet elegan contender to vcc? Really think at that price its probably worth buying to do the comparison for fun!

when is it for sale... ?

"next week"?



Zz.

[Mercado_Negro]

Originally Posted by Agzilla

when is it for sale... ?

"next week"?



Zz.

Date is in the OP.

[Retinal]

Originally Posted by Dr.Gunjah

As for the grouping thing... maybe different groups are not that reasonable because it's only one algorithm(?).
though a global bypass for all instances could be handy

Cheers,
Doc

agree, no real reason to the grouping with only one algo, altho' i do like that feature in the MM SATV, but the global bypass ala Heat it's def useful for this kind of plugins.

[-tc-]

global bypass really would be an excellent feature

[Jeezo]

My dorrough are stressing now , i have been waiting for those kinda meters only for that will try it ....cpu is my concern ....

really intelligent job ...hope it doesn't kill the sound as soon as you engage the fat ...

Please make sure we have some light on the meters (different colors will be cool) and +1 on the global bypass ...in sonar we have a button to disable all fx but i would love to make a mix and to bypass only those things to ,hear with and without ...

Originally Posted by timlloyd

global bypass really would be an excellent feature

+1000

[miro]

Originally Posted by Jeezo

My dorrough are stressing now , i have been waiting for those kinda meters only for that will try it ....cpu is my concern ....

really intelligent job ...hope it doesn't kill the sound as soon as you engage the fat ...

Please make sure we have some light on the meters (different colors will be cool) and +1 on the global bypass ...in sonar we have a button to disable all fx but i would love to make a mix and to bypass only those things to ,hear with and without ...

(Hope it's ok to Pylorca that I mention it!) I'm a beta on this and I can assure you the CPU is VERY easy!
What do you mean by "kill the sound"? That's a weird question. It's a console emulation and certainly does something (of course).
Is your sentence questioning the quality? If so, then it's insolent IMO.

My observations after using it +2 weeks:

It sounds incredibly good. It doesn't "kill" the sound but more what you'd expect it to do:
Add richness, a fatter bottom and punch. The output compensation works perfectly and if I want more drive, I turn it off.
The Gain adds a very, very pleasant saturation! Another highlight IMO are the filters:
These (esp. the LP filter) is BY FAR the smoothest son of a gun I ever heard!
It's so smooth that I always want to use it, just to hear the effect on what it does.

I don't have VCC to compare to but this thing does things to my mixes, that makes me feel like in ITB heaven.
Once again...the CPU is a joke for todays standards (like his incredible SonEQ)!

On my system (OSX 10.6.7) it's very stable. I haven't noticed a single thing that seemed buggy.

Since 2010 a new era has begun...an era of indipendent, great developers that absolutely know what they're
doing and delivering highest quality for prices that change everything (to me that is).
Sonimus, the Molot compressor and many others ARE game changers and slay many of the big brands in terms of quality...go figure.

Best of luck, Diego...you're a great guy thumbsup

A global bypass would/could be a useful function but I haven't missed it yet. If that would make things less stable or much more
CPU hungry, I'd easily say NO to it. But seems I'm in the minority, being happy for a GREAT SOUNDING and STABLE (while being low on CPU)
plugin, instead of constantly asking for "luxury features", "suggesting" things or passing on a product,
just because it's not 64Bit (which I read so often lately)....spoiled brats!

[mikeg09]

I cant wait for this to come out! The price is awsome i will definately buy if i get to hear it first.

But pylorca you are making me go insane caus i wanna know what console you are emulating

[Surbitone]

Originally Posted by miro

Since 2010 a new era has begun...an era of indipendent, great developers that absolutely know what they're
doing and delivering highest quality for prices that change everything (to me that is).
Sonimus, the Molot compressor and many others ARE game changers and slay many of the big brands in terms of quality...go figure.

Completely.thumbsup

[SWAN808]

Originally Posted by Surbitone

Completely.thumbsup

I also agree and add Sknote Quintosardo to that pile...

[dasoundjunkie]

I was looking at the VCC and all the problems that seem to be associated with it, and even though I haven't discarded the idea of that plug in the future, I'm definitely going to buy the Satson. I've found it somewhat surprising that since getting the UAD-2 the native plugs that I still use come almost exclusively from independent developers namely, Sonimus, Sir Elliot, Molot and Bootsie. Great tools from cool people creating great stuff.
Thanx guys, you make our jobs so much easier

[Retinal]

Originally Posted by miro

Since 2010 a new era has begun...an era of indipendent, great developers that absolutely know what they're
doing and delivering highest quality for prices that change everything (to me that is).
Sonimus, the Molot compressor and many others ARE game changers and slay many of the big brands in terms of quality...go figure.

+1
and I'd add Bootsy, gotta pay the dues to that guy as well, I've been using his plugin for a long time